When David Horowitz starts throwing around the label “neoconservative” as if it were a four-letter word, you know a real schism is at hand.
That’s because right-wing jihad hunters like Horowitz, Caroline Glick and others are reaching levels of near hysteria over the prospect of Islamic movements gaining political power in a post-revolution Middle East, particularly right now in Egypt. Sure, they believe everyone has the inalienable right to freedom, but not if they live on “hostile soil” or when it is not in America’s “core regional interests.” Under those circumstances, the despots and dictators—as long as they are pro-western and maintain vital security agreements with Israel—are always preferred.
“The neoconservatives are not motivated to act by concern for the US’s core regional interests. What motivates them is their belief that the US must always oppose tyranny,” writes Glick, an American who emigrated after college to Israel, where she joined the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF), retired at the rank of captain and worked in the Israeli government. She is now the managing editor of The Jerusalem Post and a senior fellow at the D.C-based Center for Security Policy, which was founded by Frank Gaffney, yet another hyperbolic jihad hunter who recently declared that the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) had been infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood.
“In some cases, like Iran and Iraq, the neoconservatives’ view was in consonance with US strategic interests and so their policy recommendation of siding with regime opponents against the regimes was rational,” Glick wrote in a March 21 column. However, “the problem with the neoconservative position is that it makes no distinction between liberal regime opponents and illiberal regime opponents. It can see no difference between pro-US despots and anti-US despots.”
In other words, neoconservatives, at least in her mind, have no concept of freedom a la carte.
Glick calls President Obama’s response to the Arab revolutions—particularly in Egypt and Libya— a “descent into strategic dementia,” and “insanity.” She blasts Obama for hewing to an “anti-imperialist” agenda that would end “US global hegemony.” Of course such “irrationality,” as she puts it, puts at risk those important “core interests” in the Middle East, which she defines as cheap oil, deterring enemies and fighting “pan-Arabists and the jihadists that advance a political program inherently hostile to US power.”
She doesn’t invoke Israel, but she doesn’t really have to. Others do that for her. Horowitz jumped in immediately in a blog post stating that “if Caroline Glick is correct in this analysis of what is happening in the Middle East,” it in part, “signals the beginning of the next war with Israel.”
Horowitz continued on this thread the next day. “The reality is that a totalitarian Islam is the vibrant and increasingly dominant movement in the Arab world,” he wrote under the headline “Why I am not a Neoconservative,” on his own FrontPageMag, a roiling cauldron of Islamophobia and second only to Atlas Shrugs as the boobyhatch of unreconstructed right-wing weblogs.
Not entirely unlike when he rejected his Marxist loyalties 40 years ago, Horowitz wrote that he was regretfully “swept up” into the neoconservative vision during the Bush years and in the run up to the Iraq War, by far the biggest and most expensive American foreign policy disaster since the Vietnam War (at least when Horowitz was “swept up” then, it was in opposition to the war. Perversely, he now blames the antiwar protesters for prolonging Vietnam).
Horowitz on Iraq:
“Bush did the right thing. When he named the campaign Operation Iraqi Freedom, I was also an enthusiast. It put the Democratic Party, which soon betrayed the war, and the political left, which instinctively supports America’s enemies, on the defensive. When he said he was going to establish democracy in Iraq, I almost believed him. And that seemed to put me in the camp of the neo-conservatives for whom democracy in Iraq was not only a wish but an agenda. In any case, people labeled me that not least because I am a Jew and ‘neo-conservative’ functions for the ominously expanding anti-Semitic Left as a code for self-serving Jews who want to sacrifice American lives for Israel.”
(One wonders, if “Neoconservative” is merely “Anti-Semitic Left” code, why does Horowitz use it to describe his former compatriots, as well as himself?)
“But whatever I wrote about the war in support of the democracy agenda, inside I was never a 100% believer in the idea that democracy could be so easily implanted in so hostile a soil… But I allowed myself to get swept up in the Bush-led enthusiasm for a democratic revolution in the Middle East. I remained on board until the Beirut spring began to wither and got off when election results in Gaza came in and put a Nazi party into power. That spelled the end of my neo-conservative illusions.
“It looks like we are headed for the same result in Egypt, where the Muslim Brotherhood is poised to win the September elections…
“Neo-conservatives are now cheering on the Obama administration’s reckless intervention in Libya.”
Thus the interesting break among friends. The differences have always been there, of course. During the Bush Administration, there was a clear conflict among those who supported Bush’s freedom agenda on broad, messianic grounds that it was America’s mission to transform the world into a mirror image of itself—even at the butt of a gun—and those who preferred to coddle dictators as long as they were friendly to “core interests.”
One of the latter is scholar Martin Kramer, who once served as a foreign policy adviser for Republican presidential-hopeful Rudy Giuliani and is currently a senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy and a fellow with the Shalem Center in Jerusalem. At the height of the Iraq War in 2007, he gave a speech in Prague criticizing the so-called Bush doctrine, in which he said:
“Democracy competes not against (‘genocidal dictatorships,’ like in Iraq, Sudan), but against this consensual authoritarianism. And the reason democracy is losing that competition is that consensual authoritarianism produces security for its peoples, and exports security to its neighbors and the world.
“We mustn’t be blind to these facts: these regimes cooperate with the world in combating terrorism and containing an aggressive Iran, they have peace treaties with Israel or float peace initiatives, they don’t threaten or intervene in the internal affairs of other countries, and they don’t seek weapons of mass destruction. None of them has gone to war in the last thirty-plus years.”
Until now, of course, because as we have always known and now WikiLeaked cables and personal testimony have now detailed in stark relief, there was nothing “consensual” about the oppression and injustice visited upon individuals and groups unlucky enough to be born into the wrong religious or ethnic class or outside the ruling political elite—which counts for millions of people— as evidenced in the recent uprisings in Tunisia, Egypt, Bahrain, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Jordan and elsewhere.
One of those disenfranchised groups is the Muslim Brotherhood, which was founded in 1928 in Egypt as both an Islamist and nationalist movement in times of British military occupation and colonial influence. It has a long history of agitation and armed resistance—its own influence spread to create numerous branches among its neighbors in the Middle East—but in the 1970’s it repudiated violence and strove toward political empowerment. Although strong and well organized, it was not recognized by Hosni Mubarak’s government and its members were often jailed if not killed for their activities.
Though it is widely acknowledged that different strains of the Brotherhood have splintered off and thrived over the decades, the nub of the argument today seems to be whether the Brotherhood in Egypt has the best interests of Egypt in mind, whether it will marginalize the liberal, more secular thrust of the young revolutionaries in favor of conservative Islamism and put Israel’s security at risk by supporting Hamas and rejecting current agreements between the two counties. Critics cite, for example, reports that Egypt’s new foreign minister, Nabil al-Arabi, wants an end to the Israeli siege of Gaza, and an opening of the border between Egypt and the Palestinian territory.
The noise was at a fever pitch this weekend after a New York Times article reported that “religion has emerged as a powerful force” in Egypt after a revolution “based on secular ideals.” The move to schedule elections sooner than later was part of a constitutional reform referendum and approved by 77 percent of Egyptians who voted on March 20. Critics say the swift elections were not supported by liberal opposition groups who need more time to build; they complain that the voters were manipulated by the Brotherhood, which helped to build fear that a “no” vote would lead to a non-Islamic state.
On the other hand the Brotherhood has insisted that it is dedicated to religious tolerance, a pluralist government and has no desire to run a candidate for the presidency in the upcoming elections.
The key is whether the United States should support the free will of the people, or smother the baby in the crib like these hysterical reactionaries seem to prefer to do.
Like Reuel Marc Gerecht, a senior fellow at the uber-neoconservative Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, who offered these gems for Glick’s Jerusalem Post last week:
“You will see the Brotherhood, without a shadow of a doubt, try to go after the United States whenever possible … You will see them whenever possible [try] to go after Israel, to demonize Israel …”
Gerecht is (in)famous for his rabid support for the regime change not only in Iraq in 2002, but for overthrowing the mullahs in Iran at the same time. “If America can hold its ground, two Muslim peoples who were badly burned by the 20th century just might lead the way for their religious brethren to a more civil society, where the basic human decency their countries knew a century ago could return,” he wrote in The Weekly Standard in 2002. Apparently, there are limits to “basic human decency,” and they begin and end with our “core regional interests.”
Nor is “democracy” necessarily for everyone. “A nation, predominantly Islamic in culture and religion yet democratic in aspiration, presents an inbred conflict that has tended repeatedly toward the solution of military or civilian autocracy,” writes George Wittman over at the American Spectator.
Apparently this didn’t bother the neocons too much when they put a pro-Iranian political Islamist in charge of Iraq and helped draft a constitution that ambiguously hews to Islamic law.
Scholars insist that the Cassandras are oversimplifying the situation, that fears over Egypt breaking off relations with Israel and succumbing to a strict interpretation of sharia, are so far unfounded.
“I worry in Washington we have this situation where fear is used to inject into the minds of western policy makers the idea that somehow Islamists coming to power ultimately means bad news,” said Ed Husain, author of the neocon-feted book, The Islamist, at a panel discussion about the “prospect of Islamist governments” at the Hudson Institute on March 25.
He said he interviewed dozens of members of the Brotherhood in a recent trip to Egypt and encountered varying levels of conservatism, differing attitudes about sharia, and of its role in political and religious life. He acknowledged, however, that “without fail” they all had “problems with Israel,” though the “jury was out” on what to do about it. In other words, there are healthy internal debates going on that are likely to work themselves in a natural course—if given the opportunity.
“There is no one Brotherhood, there are many Brotherhoods,” Husain insisted, noting that most of the individuals he interviewed—with one or two exceptions—came down in favor of an Islamic state that fosters tolerance and the rule of law. “There are various Islamisms, there is not just one Islamism.”
Over at The Daily Beast, Brookings Institution fellow Bruce Riedel says, “don’t fear Egypt’s Brotherhood.”
“Living with it won’t be easy but it should not be seen as inevitably our enemy,” he said. “We need not demonize nor endorse it. In any case, Egyptians now will decide their fate and the role they want (the Brotherhood) to play in the future.”
Horowitz said in his March 22 column that “neo-conservatives need to admit they were wrong, and return to the drawing board. They should give up the ‘neo’ and become conservatives again.”
Horowitz is anything but conservative. He and his ilk promote meddling and military intervention where they see fit and not for humanitarian or moral reasons, but for their own “core interests.” Their claim that healthy democracy cannot thrive in an Islamic country is baldly Islamophobic if not racist.
Real conservatives oppose further U.S intervention in the Middle East uprisings in order to promote a free will that most of these countries have not experienced in modern times, whether under the thumb of colonial rule or native dictatorships. That’s a drawing board that Horowitz, once a single-minded Communist, now single-minded jihad hunter, has never met.
Read more by Kelley B. Vlahos
- Antiwar.com Sues FBI After Secret Surveillance – May 21st, 2013
- Robert Greenwald’s Brave New Film – May 13th, 2013
- Iraq’s Generation Hell – May 6th, 2013
- Jeremy Scahill’s ‘Dirty’ Work – April 29th, 2013
- People Vanishing from Iraq War History – April 22nd, 2013





skulz fontaine
March 28th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Glick calls President Obama’s response to the Arab revolutions—particularly in Egypt and Libya— a “descent into strategic dementia,” and “insanity.”
Glick would certainly know about dementia. 'Nuff said.
Bodkin
March 28th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
A sensible, logical person observing the revolutionary violence consuming the Middle East would conclude that Arab societies are profoundly flawed and continue to be light years behind modern civilization, where power is transferred peacefully and democratically every few years, and needn't be forever seized by a violent coup.
And yet there are some ideologues so blinded by their own version of reality that they publish petty hatchet jobs targeting their ideological opponents rather than the backward culture that produces one despot after another who oppresses his own people, whether it be in Libya, Yemen, Syria, Tunisia, and so on.
By the way, thanks for publicizing two very useful websites, AtlasShrugs and FrontPageMag. Some good may come from this article yet.
Wootie Berster
March 29th, 2011 at 5:33 am
How does a "single-minded communist" stop being one? I doubt if it's possible since "communism" is a method more than a political affectation. The method is never surrendered. Thus the "Neo-cons", "former" trotskyites (-ists?), persist in their single-minded pursuit of world revolution. The main thing, of course, is for them to be the "vanguard" of that revolution, come hell or high water. The "C" word in the ideology (Communism, Conservatism..) is just the packaging to woo the suckers.
GradyWilson
March 29th, 2011 at 5:42 am
Excellent column, as usual, by Ms. Vlahos. Except for the Libertarian Orwellian doublespeak indulgence – "Horowitz is anything but conservative. He and his ilk promote meddling and military intervention …. Real conservatives oppose further U.S intervention in the Middle East uprisings".
That's rather blatantly untrue. Many (arguably a very great majority) of US conservatives historically have been strong, proud, interventionists not just in the ME but around the whole globe. Libertarians can pretend they are not "real" conservative (just as they pretend the US is not "real" capitalism) but this is again nothing more than pernicious Owellian doublespeak.
William Shakespeare
March 29th, 2011 at 8:00 am
They rage because the former United States has exhausted itself financially and morally trying to prop up the Greater Israel experiment. And it's not enough, it's never enough. Their choices will become limited to dissolution or Armageddon (the so-called "Samson Option") in five to ten years.
We shall not miss them, not a bit.
Bob D
March 29th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Finally, some dissent among the Warmonger. Their strongest attribute has always been their unity when it comes to never meeting a war they didn't like. Not like conservatives and even libertarians who have their non-intervention branch and their perpetual war advocate branch.
johnc
March 29th, 2011 at 8:57 am
If Horowitz doesn't like "neoconservative", 'Jacobin' might be an apt moniker.
mickperry
March 29th, 2011 at 9:10 am
The Israeli regime has never considered it necessary to get along with their neighbours, merely to get along with the ruling despots of the neighbourhood. Until recently all that has been required of the despots themselves is that they make occasional noises decrying Israeli abuses of the Palestinians. This posturing was considered sufficient to control the anger and indignation of their domestic population, while leaving themselves free to enter into whatever trade and security arrangements with Tel Aviv that benefited their own interests. This is what is changing. Any genuine democracy that emerges in Egypt will inevitably be sympathetic to the democratic rights of the Palestinians also, and it is therefore democracy anywhere in the region which represents an existential threat to Israel's brutal domination. It is not the Muslim Brotherhood which Tel Aviv fears, but democracy itself.
mickperry
March 29th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Mr Shakespeare, there is a middle way between the Sampson option and dissolution, and it's called integration. Some would say it is a prerequisite of genuine democracy anywhere.
Phil Giraldi
March 29th, 2011 at 9:16 am
I once had the unpleasant experience of sitting next to Horowitz and his wife on a three hour flight. He spent the whole time complaining because he would not be met at the airport by a limo of appropriate size and grandeur.
Terrance&Philip
March 29th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Well said. As a former fan of Horowitz I think you have discovered the fundamental thinking that's run through his political life.
Terrance&Philip
March 29th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Horowitz opined: "In any case, people labeled me that not least because I am a Jew and ‘neo-conservative’ functions for the ominously expanding anti-Semitic Left as a code for self-serving Jews who want to sacrifice American lives for Israel.”
Contrary to what Horowitz demurs, I don't oppose him especially because he does or doesn't want to sacrifice American lives for Israel. I oppose him (and everyone else) because he wants to sacrifice American lives for a cause other than America or American interests.
He's already forgotten how he and his fellow neo-cons wanted us to go to war on behalf of Georgia against Russia.
Horowitz can crazily insist that he's not a neo-con, but his actions and published positions prove otherwise.
liberranter
March 29th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Horowitz is well past the point where he should simply move to Israel and enlist in the IDF; doing so might be the only way to save his own sanity.
Cowards that they are, no neocon will EVER take up arms in defense of their own beliefs. Indeed, one of the core tenets of neoconservatism is to exercise bloodlust vicariously through others.
liberranter
March 29th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Three hours in close quarters with the likes of Horowitz? WOW! I'm surprised you didn't slit both of your wrists – or, better yet, both of HIS.
John_Muhammad
March 29th, 2011 at 11:30 am
And of course the spectre of the Muslim Brotherhood has to work its way into each and every article and conversation regarding the Middle East. Why do I get the sneaky feeling that since we can't defeat the Taliban, and we can't defeat Al-Qaeda, and we can't even pacify Iraq (that we've occupied for a decade now) that the Brotherhood is being set up as The Next Boogeyman Threat To America?
Everyone seems so scared of the Muslim Brotherhood, but I have yet to see any evidence that their program is a threat to America or any American interest of any worth (yes, that included Israel- a millstone around the necks of American citizens that will drown us if we don't shake it off). Even the MB's threat to Israel isn't of an existential nature- if anything, the move in Egypt to abrogate the treaty with Israel is EXACTLY what many Americans have been screaming for: Free trade with all, and entangling alliances with none. Why is it that the Muslim Brotherhood is (in this respect, at least) more closely following the visions of the Founding Fathers of America than is the American government itself !?
While it may be true that the MB wishes to implement an Islamic state in Egypt (and in other ME countries as well) that doesn't necessarily place it in direct opposition to the United States. Why is it that the fear of an Islamic state is so prominent in driving American foreign policy? We fear that which we don't understand- and if our leaders (and with the bunch we have in office now, I use that term loosely) would take the time to study and understand the differences and similarities in the American system and the Islamic system they'd find the two aren't really all that different in principles. The big difference- the one we see sensationalized on tv news- is how it is applied in a cultural setting. CULTURE IS NOT RELIGION. Just because Saudi Arabia (our ally, remember?) has a horrible record of upholding women's rights- right enshrined in Islamic teachings centuries ago- that doesn't constitute and indictment of Islam or Shari'a law across the board.
Yes, I'm Muslim- but even if I wasn't I would see right through the propaganda and overheated rhetoric concerning any threat from the MB. Typical politics- demonize that which you're afraid of (with or without any reason) and when you push long and hard enough they'll push back- and there's your Gulf of Tonkin incident to justify your self-fulfilling prophecy.
Steamdude
March 29th, 2011 at 11:51 am
I am frequently reminded that democracy can sometimes be no different than two wolves and a lamb deciding what's for dinner.
Hasn't anyone actually read their Constitution lately? Pols carry little pocket versions and recite their favorite portions on the floor of the legislature, but they seldom bother to actually understand and appreciate the wisdom of the words of our Founding Fathers.
The solution is so simple and basic, that our founders saw fit to open the amendments to our country's founding document with this guarantee…
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Until the Arab world recognizes the importance of secularity in government, it will not be ready for democracy. One can only pray that the Egyptians get it, even if the notion is lost on all of the rest of the world's pundits and politicians. Unless their constitution contains our 1st amendment – word for word – they are doomed to failure!
smithy100
March 29th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
"Real conservatives oppose further U.S intervention in the Middle East uprisings in order to promote a free will that most of these countries have not experienced in modern times, whether under the thumb of colonial rule or native dictatorships. "
I sincerely hope you are right about that.
Good Article!
Terranc&Philip
March 29th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Better than fighting is to dupe someone else to do the fighting for you. To a man, the neocons are a bunch of cowards, something which future historians will readily seize upon.
Raashid
March 29th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
The term "you become what you hate" will apply to Western Jewry in time. The logical conclusion from here is for the Jihad-hunters to split again into those who claim they actually want to do something about the Islamic menace by eliminating them. Already many US and European Jews are building the framework for ethnic cleansing of Muslims to be implemented in the US and Europe and of course any Middle Eastern territory Israel believes Abraham had under his control. They are even willing to cosy up to Ne-Nazis in pursuit of their Israel-above-all-else ideology.
rosemerry
March 29th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Well, sensible, logical bodkin, I hope you do not see the USA as being "modern civilization", with the so-called democratic, lobby-driven , corporate and AIPAC funded elections every few years. Absolutely ignorant, prejudiced, extremist candidates get elected and by pork-barrelling remain in power for decades. Racist attitudes like yours abound, mostly based on complete lack of knowledge, as the only country most of them visit is Israel.
rosemerry
March 29th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
and peace. Israel is terrified that if it behaved well peace might break out.
rosemerry
March 29th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Thanks John. I find this constant droning on about religion by the excessively self-righteous "christian" mercans quite tiring. They never stop saying how great and good they are while dominating the world. "Terrorists" are asumed to be Muslim religious fanatics, while most are not. Israel's extremists in the present Likud government are rarely mentioned in MSM news, while they are much more fanatical than most people outside Israel realise. Racist attitues about Arabs, and unjust and unsupported attitudes about Iran (but not Indonesia) are encouraged in the US media to demonise Muslims. This is just the latest of the "enemies" the USA seems to need.
rosemerry
March 29th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Are you pretending that your leaders take any notice of the Constitution? since 9/11, Bush and Obama have done a good job of destroying your freedoms.
Bodkin
March 29th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
What did I say that was racist? Was it "Arab societies are profoundly flawed"? Or that they're "light years behind modern civilization"? Or that they have a "backward culture"?
These are all observations easily substantiated by facts. It's backward to stone people to death, hang homosexuals, spread propaganda by state-controlled media, glorify a 7th century barbarian as the model for all young men to follow, pass laws allowing men to beat their wives, gang-rape journalists yelling "Jew! Jew!" over and over, murder people for converting to a different religion, force people of minority faiths to pay an extra tax, take power by violent coups or through inheritance rather than via democratic elections, hijack the UN in order to single out one country for constant condemnation despite being massive human rights violators themselves, forbid women from driving and voting, promote suicide bombings and fund terrorism, pass out candies after innocents are butchered, promote the idea that Jews are descended from apes and pigs, practise female genital mutilation, export radical ideology, confine girls to a burning building because they're not conservatively dressed, etc etc etc…
GradyWilson
March 30th, 2011 at 3:59 am
"The term "you become what you hate" will apply to Western Jewry in time." – Raashid
That's right on. Its already happened. The zionists are Nazi like terrorists – the things they claim to hate. Sun Tzu's wisdom again manifests itself. Zionists claim religious, racial and ethnic superiority like the christian white supremacist Nazis and morally justify the use of any deadly terror against the goyim in the name of their god. That is the inherent evil of religion itself – that any specific religion are the 'chosen' people – superior to all others. Christian Manifest Destiny, Nazism, the white supremacist Confederacy, American Exceptionalism, Zionism can all be attributed to religion – which still arrogantly claim to be the foundation of human morality!
persnipoles
March 30th, 2011 at 5:47 am
<pass out candies after innocents are butchered> You're calling the US backward and profoundly flawed?
Bodkin
March 30th, 2011 at 9:46 am
You're a brainwashed ignoramus, just like Raashid. You come here to escape into a shared fantasy with no basis in reality.
Zionism began as an irredentist movement to re-establish the ancient Jewish homeland on behalf of the world's longest persecuted people. It was a SECULAR ideology, concerned primarily with providing a refuge to protect Jewry. That noble notion is anathema to people like you, brainwashed by malicious lies and hate.
Bodkin
March 30th, 2011 at 9:56 am
What a colossal fool you are. Any aversion to radical Muslims is a direct result of the intolerance, hostility and barbarism of radical Islam itself. For example, when Muslims in Paris break the law and pray in large numbers on city streets, preventing people from entering or leaving their homes, they are committing an act of outright aggression on their fellow citizens, in effect claiming French territory as their own. The police are ordered not to intervene to help the distressed citizens, even though it's the Muslims who are breaking the law. What do you expect would be the logical reaction to such brazen aggression? Increased love of Islam???
Norway and Sweden are the rape capitals of Europe because of Muslim immigration. How will you blame THAT on the Jews, I wonder?
It's ASTOUNDING that apologists for Islam attack the VICTIMS of Islam, rather than pay even one shred of attention to the behavior of thuggish Muslims themselves. If there's a backlash building against Muslims in various countries, it's not because of a Jewish conspiracy, fool. It's because Muslims are the thuggish authors of their own inevitable misfortune. Blame Mohammed and his Koran before you blame anyone else.
Bodkin
March 30th, 2011 at 10:44 am
I'm sure that sitting next to you was a rather unpleasant experience for him, too.
mickperry
March 30th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Peace or Liebenstraum indeed. Israel must be the only place on this overcrowded planet that's encouraging immigration right now. You have to be Jewish of course, but many would fall at the first fence if they had take their own version of the Obama test for example. He had to produce his birth certificate, first to apply for the job, then once again when he'd got it… you have to laugh. Meanwhile, a much more serious question for Israel is that 'what do you want?' one. Peace, or 'living space', also known as aggressive expansion? So who gets to decide? Seemingly the Nazi's once again, because you're all welcome to settle in Israel, so long as you're White, and of “The Book”, and as long as this doesn't include being Islamic, being a Muslim. 'We are after all pitched up in an Islamic part of the world and our mission is to destroy it', says Israel. A Muslim Brotherhood? Absurd f$$$$'ng madness. Think about Christian and Jewish Brotherhoods also then, in order to maintain some perspective.
Raashid
March 31st, 2011 at 11:19 am
The pleasantries, or lack of, if that may be the case of Islam are not what is being discussed, but the propensity of Western Jews to encourage and abet Nazis and their like policies to be implemented against ALL Muslims, irrespective of whether they have committed any offences or not.
Bodkin
March 31st, 2011 at 11:20 pm
How tellingly evasive of you.
Here's a history lesson: The Nazis exterminated millions of innocent people. "Western Jews" are encouraging and abetting no such policy.
Your lies and evasions are integral to who you are.
AngelaKeaton
April 1st, 2011 at 7:48 am
Phil, you got off easy.
In activist circles, there is no escaping "Crazy Uncle Dave" incidents. He's thrown fits during interviews for which my friends have been more than gracious in allowing him to discuss his racialism without censorship. He's called my house to find family members to complain why their publication won't print his work. (They don't run David Duke or Geert Wilders or any number of 'alternative thinkers' either.) He grumbled at CPAC this year when a colleague tried to rile him by letting him know that his friends at Antiwar.com were here.
Of course, Horowitz spend a lot of time hating other Jews and gays and feminists though not as much as he hated "the blacks" in the 90s or Arabs now. I don't hate him though. He's always been an important symbol for those of us who were proud ACLU members when that still meant something. Several of my friends and I had to defend his right to speak at our university as we did with the late Khalid Abdul Muhammad during the Great PC Wars.
Sadly, many colleges and even some local ACLU chapter caved to hate speech codes which has made some of the left frankly a bit intellectually lazy. Racism is defeated through reasoning and courage, not suppression and silence. Libertarians willingness to honestly challenge the fever swamp at Front Page can be proud. People are far more aware of Pamela Geller's association with European White Supremacy, Debbie Schussle's vile homophobia or the lighter note of David Horowitz's wackiness.
republic
April 4th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
An age old saying,
US supports democracy, if the democracy supports US