The Reign of the Psychopaths
One of the key traits of psychopathic personality disorder is a near-total absence of empathy. To the psychopath, other people exist as mere objects, to be used and discarded at the psychopath’s whim.
"I had to beat my mother with that baseball bat," claims the typical psychopath. "She wouldn’t give me her pension check, and I needed it to buy more beer."
Such statements are made without irony or sarcasm, since the psychopath literally cannot imagine that other human beings might have needs distinct from his own.
While watching events unfold these past weeks in Egypt, it became apparent to me that the United States is suffering from a foreign policy malady frighteningly analogous to psychopathic personality disorder.
On one hand, the history of the Mubarak regime is well-documented. For decades, the Egyptian people have lived in grinding poverty – on less than $2 per day, by some estimates – while Mubarak and his family have amassed vast fortunes. The Egyptian government routinely uses torture against its political opponents and denies the people even basic freedoms. Election fraud, censorship, and police brutality are realities of everyday Egyptian life.
That the Egyptian people have rebelled against such a regime should come as no surprise. And one would expect that the American government – itself the creation of a revolution against an authoritarian monarchy – would support their cause, at least morally if not materially.
Such an assumption, though, presumes the presence of a degree of empathy that our government simply no longer possesses. From the very beginning, Washington’s reaction to the demonstrations has been creepy and repulsive, with Vice President Biden even remarking, preposterously, that Mubarak is not a really a dictator at all.
Despite the swerving, the billowing clouds of doublespeak and the confused backtracking, the common thread weaving its way through our government’s reaction has been one of egocentrism of psychopathic dimensions. Our elite media have mostly been neurotically obsessing about the effect that Mubarak’s fall would have on America.
What about access to the Suez Canal? What about Israel? What about Egypt’s cooperation with our War on Terror? What about those juicy military contracts?
Basically, it’s all about us.
Even the oft-heard accusation that President Obama was going to "lose" Egypt reveals volumes about the state of America’s psychology.
But as pathological as America’s response has been, the reaction has been even worse in Israel (America’s Middle Eastern "mini-me"), where the government has been openly hostile to the demonstrators and has gushed embarrassingly over Mubarak and his crony regime.
Forgetting the ruined economy. Ignoring the absence of civil liberties. Denying the torture chambers. Bibi seems mostly concerned about the effect that Mubarak’s overthrow would have on Israeli foreign policy. (Perhaps someone should ask Netanyahu how he would react if someone were to suggest that the Israelis should live in grinding poverty and without basic freedoms so that the Egyptians should feel more secure?)
That a new government should take power in Cairo is inarguable; Mubarak and his cronies have sucked the country dry and have abused the Egyptian people for long enough. The downtrodden people have spoken, loud and clear. And now, most importantly, the creation of a new government in Cairo should be the sole prerogative of the Egyptian people, without interference from foreign interests.
But of course that will never happen. Every day, more details leak into the media about the conniving and manipulation, the bribing and the backstabbing, swirling throughout Cairo as America attempts to control the succession (which is another way of saying that Washington is attempting to replace Mubarak with a newer clone who will continue to jump when we whistle).
The Egyptian people may want a new government, but Washington wants more of the same.
Psychiatrists say that the treatment of psychopathic personality disorder is long and difficult. The psychopath must be relentlessly confronted with the ugly consequences of his actions. He will usually resort to anything – denial, repression, anger, or even violence – to protect his ego and his dysfunctional personality structure. After all, psychopathic behavior is often very effective at meeting one’s needs. If the psychopath has successfully fulfilled his desires through manipulation and violence for most of his life, why should he stop now?
As the red wheel of our government’s foreign policy rolls its way through the Middle East, leaving a bloody trail of death and destruction in its wake, this last question is one we should all be asking ourselves.
And if we are relentlessly honest, we may not like the answers.





tommauel
February 10th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
On Charlie Rose last night a New York Times reporter claimed the US had very little leverage in Egypt. Tonight Brezinski repeated the same lie on Public TV. It is clear one of the narratives beginning to emerge from the corporate press in order to protect the Washington Mubarak relationship. Make the false claim the US has no real control of the situation in Egypt. The $1.3 billion is a pittance that has no real bearing on the direction of the revolution is their claim. Obama is playing dumb and laying low hoping this crisis will clear. Like he did when he interfered in the Honduran military coup allowing the ultra rich to destroy the legitimately elected president. All the time pretending to be the defender of democracy.
Debbie(aussie)
February 10th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
I would have thought that the only way to stop a psychopath would be to lock them up and throw away the key. Not a very easy task when they rule the world.
Empathy is for sissies, anyway! (snark)
Bodkin
February 10th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
What a fatuous article. The author is quite the charlatan, presuming to diagnose the country of Israel (which he predictably singles out more than any other) as a nation of "psychopaths".
What this quack fails to appreciate is that Israel has good reason to fear a radicalized Egypt, with a massive military supplied by the USA. It's entirely understandable that Israelis would be CAUTIOUS, not psychopathic, about the turn of events in Egypt. It's not clear that Israel-hating radicals WON'T take control eventually.
A country where most people believe in cutting the hands off thieves and stoning adulterers may not be ready to join the civilized world. And when the rioters in the street carry anti-Israel signs and scream terrible things about their northern neighbor, it's understandable (to anyone without the author's corrupting bias) why Israel would not be quick to welcome an Egypt ruled by a seething mob. Israel HAS welcomed Egyptian reform (which the author fails to mention, of course), but naturally is cautious and apprehensive. Nothing "psychopathic" about that at all.
bogi666
February 11th, 2011 at 1:46 am
boo hoo!
Bodkin
February 11th, 2011 at 2:16 am
It's funny how some posters at an ANTIWAR site seem to have no problem with an impending bloodbath (as long as it's one side in particular that does the bleeding), yet they're quick to call for the toppling of anyone who keeps the PEACE for decades. Antiwar, or just anti-Israel?
Instead of applauding short-sighted yahoos screaming for Mubarak's immediate removal, folks should support a gradual transition over several months or longer, giving political groups sufficient time to organize and select responsible candidates (disqualifying any radical groups, of course), and THEN have the people choose a new government.
Far too many people cheering on the unrest have a warlike agenda, while feigning a peaceful one.
theothercanada
February 11th, 2011 at 2:49 am
Perhaps the "quack" didn't buy into racist and bigoted notion of any one Nation being the "chosen" one by none other but the "god" himself?
David Kennedy
February 11th, 2011 at 3:06 am
This is one of the truest and most honest articles I have read concerning American foreign policy.
Bodkin
February 11th, 2011 at 3:23 am
You know you can't defend the author's views, so you change the subject and resort to cheap slanders.
Many people in Israel have no such notions about being "chosen". The land wasn't chosen for them. They chose to settle the land. They purchased some of it, they were allocated some of it, they were expelled and had no other place to go, they cultivated it, they built a country, they fought and bled for it. Now they're living where their ancestors lived. "Chosen" has nothing to do with it. That's just something the "racist and bigoted" people say. ;-)
burkeman1
February 11th, 2011 at 3:39 am
Don't you have some little Arab girls to shoot and some olive orchards to steal you fucking squatter.
Montaigne
February 11th, 2011 at 5:17 am
I agree with that!
In fact that attitude was apparent with some prominent American artists already in the 18xx century, like EDGAR allan Poe. Using the I-form of narration for instance – so that he is always right and speaks the truth, because he tells the story himself. The opponents, in contrast, are flawed from birth. Cruel and evil. Which he can observe, and is unconditionally right about.
Max Sitting
February 11th, 2011 at 5:54 am
Israel's lack of empathy for the people on the streets of Egypt is less evidence of psycopathology than stupidity. This stupidity is reflected in the failure of Israelis Intelligence to grasp what has been going on in Egypt. This stupidity is reflected in Bibi's inability to just keep his mouth shut about Egypt and play a wait and see game.
Emotionally overcharged reactions (as Bolkins response demonstrates) to events in a world that Israelis see as hostile and murderous and hateful and locked in the iron jaws of anti-semitism has made the Israelis incapable of thinking about their situation in any cool-headed manner with an eye on the long term.
AntiPsycho
February 11th, 2011 at 6:04 am
Excellent article. A few points though. Psychopaths have absolutely no empathy. They are also completely untreatable. Treatment only makes them better manipulators. See Hare's book Without Conscience. Another good book to read that supports the theme of this article is Political Ponerology. Among other things it explains how Israel is dominated by a particular form of psychopath.
burkeman1
February 11th, 2011 at 6:37 am
Indeed- Poe reviled the trancendentalists of his era and who were his contemporary New Englanders- a movement spawned by the horrendous materialism of the age that we actually never jettisoned.
sherban
February 11th, 2011 at 6:56 am
"Israel has good reason to fear a radicalized Egypt, with a massive military supplied by the USA.".
Thia is a psychopathic vision not a "cautious" one.
MvGuy
February 11th, 2011 at 7:03 am
Maybe the Egyptians need to hire that paragon of faux illuminations… Lanny Davis to transform Mubarak into………Washington……..Ghandi……….Jefferson….!!!
MvGuy
February 11th, 2011 at 7:50 am
"And naturally, of course, we worry whether we will be able to continue our genocide in Gaza"
MvGuy
February 11th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Mubarak…….GONE……..Bye, Bye…….!! Enjoy life in Saudi, the last [Arab] stronghold of fled torturers…
musings
February 11th, 2011 at 10:02 am
The vast bulk of foreign aid to Egypt has been in form of military aid (i.e. contracts to our military contractors, paid for by US taxpayers). Although there are those who decry US foreign aid ("welfare") which manages to trickle out to the poor (apparently the $250 million to Egypt in that form of annual aid is as micro-lending), this is a pittance compared to how we enriched our military contractors in the service of Mubarak's dictatorial national security state.
So what will our contractors do if we cut them off, huh? I'm guessing they'll hardly miss a beat in Egypt or elsewhere. We are happy to truck with the more authoritarian elements. Should Egypt change its tune however, well, we may bash it with a baseball bat so we can buy our beer. And that would show our try psychopathology – if we are willing to see it.
Bodkin
February 11th, 2011 at 10:39 am
Careful. I might start getting the impression you don't like me.
Bodkin
February 11th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Actually, the world does often seem "hostile and murderous and hateful and locked in the iron jaws of anti-semitism." Just check many of the comments on this site or a zillion others, or myriad news media, or various polls of the attitudes of numerous countries, or ask the happy rioters on the streets of Cairo…
Antisemitism has become such a gauche word, and yet it's so incredibly alive and well.
Bodkin
February 11th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Another charlatan speaks.
Pray tell, what's "psychopathic" about well-founded fear? Is fear something only psychopaths feel?
Won't you share your vast erudition?
greg
February 11th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Bodkin: noun- a small, pointed instrument for making holes in cloth, leather, etc.
Seems to describe your head
Bodkin
February 11th, 2011 at 11:01 am
"You are lumping all Moslems together"
No, I was alluding to a recent poll conducted in Egypt. The results show that only a minority of the country is secular. The vast majority are conservative Muslims, with strict views about how thieves and adulterers should be punished, among other things.
I hope the results are inaccurate and maybe the younger generation in Egypt is more forward thinking.
"make Egyptians pro-Israel"
That's like saying, "Make the antiwar.com crowd pro-Israel". Mission impossible.
Bodkin
February 11th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Greg: associated with Latin grex (stem greg–) meaning 'flock' or 'herd'
Seems to describe your mentality.
Bodkin
February 11th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Forgot to mention: the UN, the EU, the WCC, higher academia, various government agencies, etc…
Ike Hall
February 11th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Peace through terror. Sorry, pal, I'm not buying your so-called argument.
ML3
February 11th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
why should they be pro-Israel? How come all we read about in the news is negative stuff about Israel? Why again should we like a people who kill AID workers in int'l. waters, or continue a genocidal blockade of people in a large open air prison? And nevermind the spying on US?
Why should anyone with any shred of morality be pro-Israel? When can we expect the steady stream of positive news related to Israel?
Just curious, Bodkin…maybe you know?
sherban
February 11th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
"because Israel is an old hand at self-frightening.,Yoel Marcus in Haaretz,today.In other words psychopaths.
Joel
February 11th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Bodkin,
Your Israel can do what it wants, just leave the U.S. out of it! And I do mean "OUT OF IT", no money, freebies, no troops, no wars for Israel.
Mel Gibson was right.
Andron
February 11th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
What an Idiot you are – Its hard to believe that people like you exist! But very sadly they do.
Claus Eric Hamle
February 11th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
If we don´t have Empathy, we are not human beings. A vast section of Bogotá is called Kennedy because President Kennedy sent milk to the children in Bogotá. And that´s what it´s all about. Before the invasion Bush promised school books to the children of Iraq. He brought hell. Before the invasion they had electricity and water. Now they have hardly anything. Bush is a war criminal. But when his is no longer president, Obama won´t be able to leave United Bluff without being arrested for war crimes like stay-home-president Bush Jr.
Claus Eric Hamle
February 11th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Are we really three kinds of people ? My surgeon in Tuluá in Colombia told me his theory: Very long ago an all-out war had erupted between the Moon and Mars and the few survivors from both places settled here with the original inhabitants. So we are the original farmers, aggressive people from Mars and Lunatic Peacemakers. The world is in the grip of the Mars-people. It dies without the Empathy of the Lunatics. Musicians, philosophers, etc. That was my Colombian surgeon´s theory. But we don´t really know, do we ? At any rate, there´s no explanation to the Piri Reis map and NASA says it can only have been made from the air . thousands of years ago ???
Claus Eric Hamle
February 11th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
And my surgeon in Tuluá in Colombia said it was so long ago that we had forgotten all about it. Now they have found that Mars had vast Oceans – and that means at least some kind of life. The Japanese plan to build on the Moon because vast water deposits have been found. And that makes it easier.
Putin has a billion dollar palace. Some 600 people own more than half of the world´s resources. Robert Oppenheimer said that this was the first one (July 16, 1945) in modern times. He referred to Mahabharata-stories of planes and of weapons with the same effect as nuclear weapons. From where did they get that. ?
Claus Eric Hamle
February 11th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
The Revolution must spread from the ME to the US, Russia, China. The Americans fool themselves if they think they have democracy. Senators and the President (!) are paid by MIC and Big Business – and to hell with the people! And that is NOT democracy.
robt
February 11th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
The only 'cure' for the psychopath is old age, or possibly just growing up.
robt
February 11th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
From ancient Egypt, which was visited by aliens from outer space, obviously. And this column was about Egypt, so it all ties in nicely.
Brother_John
February 11th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Okay, so let's assume that if the US keeps its fingers out of Egyptian politics for once and lets the next election cycle have a natural progression, and let's assume a government is cobbled together that for whatever reason does not choose to observe the Egypt/Israeli treaty. What then?
Do we really expect Egypt to just go swarming across the border, armed to the teeth, to get at the Israelis? Or do you think they might be preoccupied with a little thing like, oh, rebuilding an entire nation? It doesn't matter how the new government leans, secular or Islamic, liberal or conservative, or what have you- whoever is in charge is STILL going to need time, years even, to get things back in shape, get Egypt back on the world stage, and until then play nice with everyone on the block.
All this mindless shrieking about Israel being in danger from Egypt might have held water a few decades ago, but no longer. Egypt wants and needs to tend to its own business for a while (we in the US might want to take a lesson from that about cleaning up our messes before cleaning up everyone else's).
That Muslim Brotherhood thing? Well, so far, everything that's been said about them has turned out to be pretty much bogus propaganda- I say the MB needs to get in there and be a real part of the reconstruction, and if they have enough organization and recruiting power to go for the Presidency. Americans need to learn that an Islamic state can be a wonderful ally or a terrible opponent- it's up to the US to decide how that's going to play out. Muslim have better things to do than play silly games.
Bodkin
February 11th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
"How come all we read about in the news is negative stuff about Israel?"
That's an easy one. If it's the BBC or al-Jazeera or Antiwar.com and so on, it's because of inherent bias.
It's as a result of exposing yourself to such biased reportage that you would condemn Gaza's conditions without considering Hamas and their Iranian sponsors, or why you would condemn the Turkish flotilla incident without considering the premeditated thuggery, or why you would condemn the spying without considering America's spying on others including Israel (as ordered by Condi, and later Hillary) or the fact that Israeli spies have been singled out, given unusually severe punishments, and inordinate media coverage.
Bodkin
February 11th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
"Why should anyone with any shred of morality be pro-Israel?"
Oh, I dunno…Maybe it has something to do with it being set up as a refuge for the world's longest-persecuted people, the same people that wrote the book that planted the very concept of "morality" in minds like yours to begin with…
Did you know that many people, including Africans & Arabs, have fled to Israel, desperately seeking refuge? Where's your morality for the folks who have taken refuge there? It's kind of a selective morality, isn't it?
Bodkin
February 11th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
I know what you mean. I pinch myself every day.
BTW, if you ever have any non-mediocre comments to make, please share.
Bodkin
February 12th, 2011 at 8:38 am
You sabotaged your own post. At first, you expressed something perfectly reasonable: Israel should fend for itself. (By the way, America has supplied weapons and money, but no U.S. troops ever fought in Israel's wars.)
But then you ended with a vicious slur that reveals you're not just anti-Israel, but antisemitic (I'm tired of that word too, but sometimes it does apply). What was Gibson "right" about? That "the J*ws" are responsible for "all the wars in the world"? That's what he actually said. He was wrong to lump all of us together, and wrong a second time for blaming every conflict on the fictitious, monolithic group in his mind. (What do J*ws have to do with conflicts in Sudan, for instance? Or the Koreas? Or Russia and Chechnya? etc…)
Sites like this liberate folks like you, and empower you to unleash your inner Mel.
jeff_davis
February 12th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Your problem Bodkin, is that you have drunk long and deep of the Zionist Kool-aid. The intense criticism of Israel and their enablers is not anti-semitism, it is a passion for justice, and for the underlying source of justice, truth. The Zionists ***STOLE*** Palestine from its rightful owners, the folks who had lived there in peace — with their Jewish fellow citizens (a minority of 5%) — for 70 generations (ie 1300 years).
The Zionists PLANNED to steal Palestine and murder and ethnically cleanse it's Arab citizens. Then they went ahead and did it. But Bodkin is not interested in the truth. In league with the criminals, he just wants to help them keep what they've stolen, help them steal even more, help them kill even more, and help them lie about it for as long as it takes to "secure the realm".
Unfortunately for people like me who are Jewish, and both proud and grateful on that account, the poison of Zionism has spread from the center of the cancer in Palestine, to overtake both the entire worldwide Jewish community and the wider non-Jewish world. By criminalizing the entire world, and making every Jew on the planet a presumed accessory to its crimes, Zionism has brought every Jew to this tragic pass: Jew hating seems logical and antisemitism seems legitimate. The five-thousand year repetitive pattern of Jewish "persecution" is explained.
The truth cannot be hidden. Payback is coming.
Now Bodkin will no doubt jump on this and say that I encourage and look forward to the bloody massacre of the Israelis. I do not. But if the criminal monsters of the Zionist cancer will not surrender peacedfully when at last the cops show up at their door, then yes, use whatever force is necessary.
Criminals have a right to surrender, be taken into custody, receive a fair trial, and if found guilty, to receive a proportionate sentence. And when their time is served, to rejoin society for a second chance at lawful cooperative participation.
Too harsh for you, Bodkin. Too bad. Justice is coming.
jeff_davis
February 12th, 2011 at 10:35 am
"Pray tell, what's "psychopathic" about well-founded fear?"
You want erudition? Here's some erudition: Criminals who, despite knowing they are criminals, remain nevertheless committed to their criminality, even to the point of almost believing the excuses and explanations and justifications and defamations they project to shield themselves from the truth, are rightfully frightened by "guilty knowledge" and the ever-present looming "threat" of justice. This "well-founded fear" is at the very heart of the moral and mental sickness of a life dedicated to criminality. Justice is only a "threat" to the criminal psychopath.
Erudite enough for you? Or would you like to make an argument for some Zionist privilege to a life of crime?
jeff_davis
February 12th, 2011 at 10:57 am
"That's like saying, "Make the antiwar.com crowd pro-Israel". Mission impossible."
Not at all. All Israel has to do is forswear persistent murder, theft, and lieing about it, open their doors to all the Palestinians they drove away under threat of death, return the land stolen from them, and commit to living with them in the land they both consider home. Everyone else on the planet does it, but the flippin Zionists can't "man up" and do the right thing. Because of course, they're dedicated criminals.
Bodkin
February 12th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
What was criminal about the Zionists purchasing land from Arabs a century ago, besides the exorbitant rates they were charged?
What was criminal about the Arab king Faisal warmly welcoming the creation of the Zionist state? Was he in on it, too?
Was it criminal when all those countries at the UN officially recognized Israel? Are you branding all those countries criminals too, or just your own people?
Once upon a time, the idea of J*wish irredentism wasn't branded "criminal". Perhaps the criminality is on the part of those who planted — and keep planting — that damaging, defamatory narrative in people's minds.
But hey, let's say it was all a big heist. When you consider that most countries in existence today were established (and are held) by force, perhaps it's your degree of hypocrisy that should be deemed criminal.
Bodkin
February 12th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
"Because of course, they're dedicated criminals"
Actually, I think they're just afraid — of becoming a hated minority in a land which was meant to be the one place where they would never have to worry about being persecuted or expelled themselves. There's so much historical precedent for this particular fear that it's just plain ridiculous to call them racists or criminals. It's about survival, not criminality.
Why aren't you on your soapbox screaming for the Arab nations to right the wrong and welcome back the J*ws they kicked out, and return all the property they stole from them, down to their wedding rings? Now THERE was an act of brazen criminality.
ALL humans are capable of criminal behavior, a fact you take pains not to acknowledge. Why single out one group of people?
jeff_davis
February 14th, 2011 at 11:31 am
"What was criminal about the Zionists purchasing land from Arabs a century ago, besides the exorbitant rates they were charged?"
If the plan was to establish a foothold from which to later steal and murder, then yes, the purchase was part of a larger criminal conspiracy. If the intent was to move to Palestine, settle on purchased land, and live in peace with one's neighbors, then no, nothing criminal about it. Time has shown the former to have been the case.
Regarding "the exorbitant rates they were charged": first, the sellers didn't want the Jews there because they knew it would ruin the neighborhood, and we see now the full truth of that view; second, the owner of a thing can charge whatever he damn well pleases, or not sell at all, or choose to not sell to someone he disapproves of , and of course, no one held a gun to any Zionist's head so as to force the sale. Get over it.
"What was criminal about the Arab king Faisal warmly welcoming the creation of the Zionist state? Was he in on it, too?"
Don't know about Faisal, but judging from your Kool-aid induced dementia, I would guess you're spinning some more Zionist mythology. But remembering the whole Lawrence of Arabia thing, i suspect Faisal was first bought by the British, and then handed over to the Americans.
"Was it criminal when all those countries at the UN officially recognized Israel?"
Yes. They had no right to give Palestine to the Zionist criminals, just as the British Imperial elite had no right to promise, per the Balfour Declaration thirty-one years earlier, to help to steal Palestine for the Zionist criminals. In both cases IT WAS NOT THEIRS TO GIVE. When you take something that belongs to another, it is called stealing. Stealing is a crime. But, being of a criminal mind, you knew that already.
" Are you branding all those countries criminals too, or just your own people?"
Yes, all those countries, too. They did the crime and deserve the name of 'criminal'. But "sovereign" states, being above the law, are inherently inclined toward criminality
"Once upon a time, the idea of J*wish irredentism wasn't branded "criminal".
"Once upon a time…" The classic introduction to a fairy tale…why am I not surprised? Once upon a time slavery was legal. Once upon a time the Divine Right of Kings was considered a "scientific" notion. Once upon a time Imperial conquest — that is, invasion, murder, theft, and exploitation — were considered the "duty" of "superior" cultures. Once upon a time — and still to this day — monstrous criminality was standard behavior and was papered over by monstrous lies. The sort of lies you embrace.
Then came the enlightenment. But not for you. And not for the rest of the criminal-minded. Not yet. But the "correction" is coming.
"Perhaps the criminality is on the part of those who planted — and keep planting — that damaging, defamatory narrative in people's minds."
By "damaging, defamatory narrative" I take it you mean "the truth". To the criminal-minded, the truth is understandably, a "damaging, defamatory narrative".
"But hey, let's say it was all a big heist."
Aaah! Fessing up at last. Let the healing begin!
"When you consider that most countries in existence today were established (and are held) by force,"
Glad to have you on board in acknowledging the historically persistent criminality of political elites everywhere. The next step is getting "the cops" to take the criminals into custody, and to begin the process of rehabilitation.
"… perhaps it's your degree of hypocrisy that should be deemed criminal."
I acknowledge pre-enlightenment patterns of political behavior as criminal by post-enlightenment standards, and I endeavor to assist in establishing post-enlightenment standards, while remaining attentive to the possibility that even post-enlightenment standards are likely to require "upgrades" from time to time. This approach to establishing a just social order can only be seen as criminal or hypocritical when viewed through the pathology of the criminal-minded.
I want to thank you, Bodkin, for showing up in this forum to test the mettle of your pathology. It gives me the opportunity once again to sharpen my rebuttal skills and show other readers how the mythology of lies is perpetuated. They can then fan out across the internet armed with the truth and the means to effectively assert it.
And when you leave, as you will, you too will be armed with the truth. Whether you allow it to do you some good is up to you. But I wish you luck. A life dedicated to the truth is much better for your soul than a life dedicated to being an accessory to crime.
Bodkin
February 15th, 2011 at 3:59 am
Before you go flattering your sanctimonious self so much, you should take a closer look at your "rebuttal". You confuse lazy-minded dismissiveness with cogent counterpoint. Arguments of yours which you deem persuasive are, on closer scrutiny, impotent and utterly worthless.
For example, since you can't prove that King Faisal was NOT a legitimate Arab king, you PRESUME that he either didn't exist ("spinning Zionist mythology") or that he was a British stooge. Either way, that's not effective rebuttal. That's fantasy. It simply doesn't comport with your self-satisfied, longstanding disdain for Zionism to acknowledge the truth (a concept you self-righteously think you own) that an actual Arab king sympathized with the beleaguered J*ws who craved a land of their own, and the huge implications of that. Nope! Just doesn't compute. The Arabs are a monolith to you, and as such MUST utter precisely the words you put in their mouths. This makes you a condescending, sanctimonious, unwittingly racist snob — racist because your expectations of Arabs are so low. You presume to read their easy-to-figure-out minds.
Bodkin
February 15th, 2011 at 4:06 am
Another case in point: You apply the label of "criminal" to the powerful elites, the imperialists who conquered nations. But what of their descendants? You blame today's Israelis for something you exonerate in yourself: being a living beneficiary of the violent founders of your state. As long as you believe that Israelis are living on stolen land, you have zero credibility to criticize them for it, because you're an American living on stolen land. In other words, by your own definition of the term, you're calling yourself a criminal, which obviously discredits you. But really, you're calling EVERYBODY a criminal, to the point where the word loses its meaning. At that point, when you've (unwittingly) branded the whole world criminal, it might be time to ask if it's criminality you detest, or the ugly truth about human survival throughout history.
Bodkin
February 15th, 2011 at 4:17 am
You're kidding yourself about "enlightened" standards. Consider what your leaders do and have done, in your name, to safeguard the freedoms you now have which allow you to sit there and spew. What was enlightened about Hiroshima, for example?
You may have selected an arbitrary date at which point you think this wondrous "enlightenment" began, but you'd just be kidding yourself. Last time I checked, human beings keep on doing whatever it takes to survive in this permanently unenlightened world, and yet there's no shortage of sanctimonious hypocrites like you who single out just one group for opprobrium.
In the end, your words ring hollow, especially the ones where you're putting yourself on a pedestal… but also the ones in which you risibly presume that others will copy and paste your obnoxious bloviating and arm themselves with it. Now THAT was precious!
BTW, your certainty that I'm going to leave is yet another example of your self-satisfied smugness (and penchant to indulge in fantasy). I've actually been here a long time, in various incarnations. Someone less obtuse than you might have realized that. See you soon!