As the Republican convention-goers gather in Tampa, Florida, the Republican party Establishment is eager to crush any public expressions of dissent — both inside and outside the convention hall.
Inside, efforts are underway to make it impossible for delegates pledged to antiwar libertarian Ron Paul to place their candidate in nomination — an effort the Huffington Post deems a “defense” against Paulian “shenanigans.” Party rules say officially-recognized candidates must have pluralities of delegates in at least five states: however, at a recent Republican National Committee meeting, Texas committeeman John Ryder moved to increase the number of states to ten — just to make sure Paul doesn’t make the grade. Disdaining convention floor fights as “the residue of the 19th century,” Ryder averred it is time to “streamline” the process by which the GOP nominates its standard-bearer. Ryder claimed that he wanted to eliminate “distractions” at the Republican convention:
“Unless you’ve got a real contest, where you have two candidates or three candidates who actually have a mathematical chance of winning, then why do we want to go through the exercise?”
I have a better idea: since polls are showing Mitt Romney being soundly beaten by our incumbent President, why don’t’ we just dispense with these pesky elections — which are, after all, just part of the residue from the 18th century — and declare Barack Obama the winner? That way, we can save time, energy, and taxpayers’ money — because, after all, the taxpayers are footing the bill for Mitt’s coronation, just as they are for the Democrats. Think of it as a Republican budget-cutting plan — the Ryder plan.
To the Republican party Establishment — and much of the rank-and-file activists — political debate is a “distraction” from what really matters in politics, which is seizing power. As for the rules governing the political process — they can be changed at a moment’s notice, and bent any which way, in order to facilitate this seizure. Ron Paul’s supporters in the GOP learned that the hard way, as the Romneyites used their control of the party bureaucracy at the state and national levels to retroactively change the rules in order to unseat duly elected Paul delegates. In Maine, Massachusetts, Louisiana, Oregon, Oklahoma, and elsewhere, the party bosses have disenfranchised Paul voters — closing down party caucuses, rejecting as delegates anyone under 50, and calling the cops when all else failed. And while Ryder’s rule change failed — thanks to RNC’er Morton Blackwell — the Romney people did sneak in an amendment that would require delegates to state in writing who they intend to vote for on the convention floor at least one hour before the vote.
This is something not even the Communist Party of the Soviet Union required, and is unheard of even in Red China. The reason for the new rule is obvious: to alert the Romneyites to impending displays of public dissent. This will give them time to isolate the dissenters, strip them of their delegate credentials, and unceremoniously haul them out of the convention, preferably in handcuffs, while the cameras roll.
On the outside, it looks even more grim: aside from the fact that a major hurricane is reportedly headed straight for Tampa — in which case the whole thing is apt to be cancelled — preparations are underway for mass arrests: they’re emptying out the local jail to make room for all the protesters, who have been duly warned, in a letter posted by the local top cop on the county web site:
“To the agitators and anarchists who want only to bring a dark cloud to this event, let me be clear: criminal activity and civil disturbances will not be tolerated and enforcement actions will be swift.”
What political convention would be complete without an Anarchist Scare? The feds are warning us about “anarchist extremists” plotting to use “acid-filled eggs” and other infernal devices to disrupt the smooth flow of the expected in Tampa. And Fox News “reports”:
“On Tuesday, Tampa police confiscated bricks and pipes found on a rooftop several blocks away from the site of the Republican convention. Graffiti associated with the anarchist movement was also found. Castor called the discovery “disconcerting but … not surprising.”
Bricks, old pipes, and graffiti — on an urban rooftop? Why, it’s unheard of! Surely this is evidence of a criminal conspiracy of unprecedented proportions. I’m surprised the Governor hasn’t called out the National Guard. Although I’m not at all sure how those “acid-filled eggs” are supposed to work: wouldn’t the acid eat away the egg before it’s thrown? Perhaps I’d better look up the recipe in my autographed copy of The Anarchists’ Cookbook.
The idea
that this convention is part of the “democratic” process
is a joke: it is no more free and open than an old-style Soviet
party convention. What’s going on in Tampa is the culmination
of a process that has nothing to do with democracy, and everything to
do with legitimizing the control of party bosses, corporate
interests, and, most important of all, the War Party over the
nominating process and the two-party duopoly.
The extraordinary hostility of the GOP hierarchy to Ron Paul and his supporters hardly comes as a shock: Paul is, after all, the single most trenchant critic of our interventionist foreign policy since William Jennings Bryan, and he is the War Party’s deadly enemy. To the servitors of the military-industrial complex, the foreign lobbyists, and would-be Napoleons of the neocon persuasion who hold the reins of power in the GOP, he is the Devil Incarnate. So unwelcome is Paul’s presence that I doubt they’ll even allow him on the convention floor, even given that his more pliable son is one of the speakers. And you can bet Rand Paul’s speech will be vetted under a magnifying glass well in advance: these are people who hate surprises.
For all their talk of “freedom” in the abstract, when it comes to their own party, the Republicans are ruthless authoritarians: we’re about to see that demonstrated in Tampa.
NOTES IN THE MARGIN
We no longer have political parties in the American tradition: private organizations that arose out of common concerns and dueling theories of government: today the two-party monopoly ensures that both “major” parties are extensions of the state apparatus. And it is dangerous to criticize their stranglehold on our politics: recently, a group of third parties and concerned individuals, including ballot access expert Richard Winger, sued the state of California to allow third parties to put their names on the ballot, or even have their candidates dubbed “independent,” instead of being labeled “no party affiliation.” Under California’s new election law, passed by initiative, all candidates run in the same primary and the top two compete in a run off: third parties are effectively abolished. The suit was an effort to rescue their legal and political status from utter oblivion. The judge not only ruled against the plaintiffs, he also required them to pay the legal costs of the well-heeled backers of the law, who had intervened in the case. The six plaintiffs are being billed for $243,279.50 — because, the judge said, the case was “not in the public interest.”
If it happened in Putin’s Russia, we’d be reading about it in the New York Times.
I see we’re seeing somewhat better results from our fundraising drive, but we’re still lagging behind where we should be at this point — even with our pledge of matching funds.
Look, I hate to bring this up at the end of each and every column, but I really don’t have a choice. Unlike those Republican revelers in Tampa, we aren’t partying on the taxpayers’ dime. We depend on you, our readers and supporters, to support the kind of independent journalism that has made Antiwar.com a byword for fearless commentary and reporting on the foreign policy front. We’re in this fight for the long haul — fifteen years and counting, so far. As war clouds gather on the not so distant horizon, Antiwar.com is more essential than ever: so please, contribute what you can — and, remember, it’s tax-deductible.
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- Boycott Israel? – May 9th, 2013





Tom Mauel
August 23rd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Polls show Obama soundly beating Romney? Obama has a narrow if steady lead of about 3 points,
within the margin of error. In the daily Rasmussen tracking poll Romney has actually had several days recently where he had a two point lead over Obama.
Justin Raimondo
August 23rd, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Given the closeness of recent presidential elections, three points is substantial. And that is at the beginning of a campaign in which the President is at a distinct disadvantage, with a failing economy, record unemployment, a number of wars ongoing and in the works, and a general feeling that we're not going in the right direction. Obama's policies are not popular, but Romney is widely disliked, even by members of his own party.
RParker
August 23rd, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Maybe the hurricane will shut the whole sickening farce down for the moment and we will see "Romney 2012" posters floating in the Gulf of Mexico along with the other trash.
Rich
August 23rd, 2012 at 10:45 pm
The Republicans, the Democrats, and the lackeys who support them are fully responsible for the ongoing destruction of this country. A country of 300 million people and only two political parties? A growing population and still only 435 representatives? No dissent from the established myths allowed, full speed ahead over that cliff! And a "judge" says having more than two parties is not in the public interest? I ask people who they are voting for, and if they say a Republican or a Democrat, I assure them that nothing will change. Justin is right. This is about the state perpetuating itself. You are now a subject, not a citizen. Affirm the state!
Tom Mauel
August 23rd, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Obama should win this. He has a six point lead in Ohio. But the Todd Walker win in Wisconsin was surprising. The left had plenty of time to bring their case against Walker and they were soundly defeated. Although Democrats did prevail in regaining the Wisconsin Senate. Wisconsin has gone Democrat in almost every close presidential race. But the Republicans have lately focused their grassroots efforts in the rural areas of Wisconsin. They flood the small town fairs and control 85% of am talk radio. The grassroots left is really pissed off about Afghanistan and Occupy Wall Street issues. Last week occupy Oakland had an ugly confrontation at the local Obama office.
The demographic trends are with Obama. And count on Romney to stumble compared to the ultra smooth Obama. However the right wing is stirred up and the 3 point lead might be rolled over by a consistent 51% negative Obama rating in Gallup, Rassmusen and other national polls .
MoT
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:23 pm
This shows you how long it can take for someone such as even myself to "wake up" to the mind boggling propaganda and indoctrination. Here I am after over a decade of "deprogramming" and it finally hit me that the conventions themselves are an example of real-time theft in motion. Two private organizations stealing public money from us before our very eyes to showcase their evil charade while claiming to be our servants. And yet on other boards I've been attacked for pointing this absurdity out. My "patriotism" is at question if you can believe that tripe.
RyanSmurfy
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:28 pm
When Ron Paul decided to target caucuses instead of primary elections, because he thought he knew the rules better than Romney, he cooked his own goose.
By concentrating on caucus stuffing, Paul sanctioned the same power politics that Romney uses to squeeze Paul and his followers out of the convention.
Too bad Paul squandered his chance to galvanize voters wishing to change America's war policy, restore the Bill of Rights and reverse the police state.
Ron J
August 24th, 2012 at 3:40 am
Don't forget that Ron Paul was getting little air time during the debates, was being labeled 'longshot' from the first day he announced he was running (versus Romney's 'presumed nominee'), had no press coverage for the huge popular rallies/speeches he was conducting, and was not able to buy the kind of air-time that Romney could buy. Add to that the apparent vote tampering in some states, and you realize that he did not have a chance of winning delegates in the primary states.
The delegate strategy has kept him alive as a contender longer than any of the other candidates. He followed the Rep. Party rules to gain delegates…but he had to know that the Rep. Party insiders were not going to sit by and let him use their rules against him.
His efforts exposed the massive corruption of the U.S. system.
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harr
August 24th, 2012 at 5:02 am
in the meantime the party that shuns Ron Paul is now calling for a return to the gold standard.
richard vajs
August 24th, 2012 at 5:34 am
Wasn't it H.L. Mencken who described the election process as "an auction now of goods to be stolen later"? I wouldn't pay much attention to polls – the two political parties, especially the Republicans, have become masters at criminally steering elections their way. With electronic ballot boxes, the opportunity to "tilt" the counting is way more than the politically thugish can withstand. Even hamfisted "shenanigans" like keeping voting polls open longer for desirable precincts and shortening them for enemy precincts, were unashamedly practiced in Ohio in recent years. Sounds juvenile and it is, but these are the characters who run our two political parties – the same brainless jocks and popular, but mean, girls who ran high school. (I could give a hundred examples, Rick Perry, Michelle Bachman, etc, etc, etc).
Outsider
August 24th, 2012 at 5:54 am
How true, Rich. The authoritarian Repubs are now trying to throw the Libertarian Party off of state ballots. According to Gary Johnson's website, in my state of PA the Repubs are currently challenging petition signatures in order to get Johnson thrown off the ballot, even though they had way over the minimum amount. This is very time consuming and expensive for a party without the deep pockets of our monopoly parties. It used to be much easier for 3rd parties to get on the ballot. Our monopoly parties are trying to take away that choice, even as the internet age exposes thinking people to things never talked about on TV's so-called news shows. And they call this a democracy!
Outsider
August 24th, 2012 at 5:58 am
ADEDENDUM: How long until they find a way to shut the Internet down in the name of National Security?
harr
August 24th, 2012 at 6:03 am
Just saying, but in Canada there are more parties, more dynamic turnover. Not enough, but more. That's at least partially because of the continuous threat of Quebec separation. Now if a couple of states decide they want to secede from the Union, that would shake things up and revert American's attention to America.
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Outsider
August 24th, 2012 at 7:36 am
That would be great, Harr. But remember what Lincoln did to the South when they wanted to peacefully secede!
Johnny in Wi.
August 24th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Walker has done a terrific job of managing this state. We here are disgusted with all the lies, corruption, theft, thuggery, and bombast from the government unions. They never should have been allowed to take over the schools and other public institutions in this country. The winner of this very close election will be the guy that promises the most intelligent way to get this country back to peace and properity. Obama has done zilch in that regard. Right now both of them stink. Although Romeny at least knows how the economy works. Both are in the pockets of the banksters and warmongers. Romney is making noises to get Ron Paul voters with attacks on the Federal Reseve and promising a return to Gold. It isn't enough, in my opinion. He has to move toward peace and hasn't done so as of yet. If he does not I expect him to lose. If he does he wins. Ron Paul voters will control who wins.
muggles
August 24th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Today's column is a welcome reminder of what today's GOP is really about. No "big tent" here despite Romney's noises earlier to the contrary. Libertarians and anti war non interventionists are being illegally excluded by the GOP establishment using every dirty trick and ex post facto "rule change" in the world.
To Ron Paul fans, the message is clear: Stay home on election day or if not, consider the Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson. Let the GOP election "Titanic" sail into history.
muggles
August 24th, 2012 at 7:48 am
Today's column is a welcome reminder of what today's GOP is really about. No "big tent" here despite Romney's noises earlier to the contrary. Libertarians and anti war non interventionists are being illegally excluded by the GOP establishment using every dirty trick and ex post facto "rule change" in the world.
To Ron Paul fans, the message is clear: Stay home on election day or if not, consider the Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson. Let the GOP election "Titanic" sail into history.
Generalissimo X
August 24th, 2012 at 8:26 am
someone please tell me where in the constitution it says that two corporate parties who disdain the rule of law and the will of the people have complete control of the electoral system? how is that we allow criminal political apparatuses to co-opt our republic? the list of criminal offenses of both parties is long and substantial, literally going back 150 years and yet we persist in allowing them to orchestrate sheer theater, which we pay for, all the while having no intention of actually serving the will of the people. never mind that our country is in the toilet in every conceivable way, we still collectively go out and support these corporate, store bought monsters in their fancy suits and motorcades. voting for a lesser evil is still voting for evil. i said it before and i'll keep saying it, STOP VOTING FOR CRIMINALS. just stop.
Generalissimo X
August 24th, 2012 at 8:28 am
better yet maybe the hurricane will wash all the candidates, party brass and rino stooges out to sea never to be heard from again. one can only hope.
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Tom Mauel
August 24th, 2012 at 8:58 am
I completely disagree with your anti union slander.
angelsliberty
August 24th, 2012 at 8:59 am
Antiwar.com is and has been an important source of news for me. Though I don't have a lot of money to be throwing around, I have donated in the past. Now that Scott Horton and Antiwar.com are split, however, I had to make a decision, and I went with Scott Horton. I am sorry to point this out, but when you let him go, you also let go those of us who funded you and found him an indispensable part of the antiwar message.
JLS
August 24th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Because nothing says land of the free and "we respect the constitution" like the violent suppression of political dissent.
JLS
August 24th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Because nothing says land of the free and "we respect the constitution" like the violent suppression of political dissent.
Tom Mauel
August 24th, 2012 at 9:37 am
Why did Scott Horton split with Anti-War?
Tom Mauel
August 24th, 2012 at 9:44 am
What split? The Scot Horton radio show is just to the left of the web page as I write.
Tom Mauel
August 24th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Sorry, I meant to say just to the right, THE SCOT HORTON SHOW. What split are you reffering to?
dolly
August 24th, 2012 at 10:02 am
"I have a better idea: since polls are showing Mitt Romney being soundly beaten by our incumbent President, why don’t’ we just dispense with these pesky elections — which are, after all, just part of the residue from the 18th century — and declare Barack Obama the winner?"
But you can't get the people to love their government (servitude) again if you don't have a race.
"Perhaps I’d better look up the recipe in my autographed copy of The Anarchists’ Cookbook. "
hee hee snicker snort. :)
jrs
August 24th, 2012 at 10:43 am
The GOP mainly uses libertarians as useful idiots. Rs actually love libertarian sounding arguments, always terribly afraid of some alleged threat to our great freedom. But then you start talking about things like NDAA and it's all yawns.
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Strider55
August 24th, 2012 at 11:15 am
In both 2000 and 2004 the Democraps resorted to the same dirty tricks in trying to kick Ralph Nader off the ballots. Corruption, like warmongering, is a bipartisan effort in the Yankee Empire.
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Strider55
August 24th, 2012 at 11:23 am
In 2000 the Democrats paid college kids to cast multiple fraudulent ballots across Wisconsin (the kids even bragged about it afterward) and bribed the homeless with free cigarettes. Expect more of the same this year. Keep a close eye on cemeteries, as residents thereof are the Dems' favorite core constituency. (Unlike blacks, homosexuals, illegal aliens and other groups, dead people never ask for govt. goodies in return for their votes.)
Tom Mauel
August 24th, 2012 at 11:37 am
Your claim is complete bull. There is no evidence of any substantial voter fraud anywhere in the country. Yet the Republicans are conducting massive purges of legitimate voter rolls in Florida, Ohio, and Michigan among other areas.
Strider55
August 24th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Wouldn't it be great if Isaac did force cancellation of the convention? (No partisanship here — a major tornado in Charlotte before the Democrap confab would be equally welcome.) Perhaps it would signal the death knell for all future conventions. Face it, they no longer serve any legitimate purpose. When was the last meaningful one? The 1964 Goldwater nomination? Now the conventions are just multi-day free ad blitzes for the anointed nominee, with everything as scripted as Wrestlemania (but not nearly as entertaining). Consign them to the ash heap of political history!
Justin, re your speculation on the Natl. Guard: You might be interested in learning that back in May Tampa's liberal Democrat mayor demanded suspension of Florida's excellent CCW and self-defense laws during the convention. Apparently he was fantasizing about thousands of GOP members becoming mandatory crime victims. Fortunately our GOP governor told him to go pound sand.
Doug_in_Indiana
August 24th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Amen MoT. I am 66 years old and it is an embarrassingly recent realization that deeee…mocracy, in fact any political religion, is a thorough swindle of our emotions, beliefs, and wallets. But we are products of the socialist 20th century, an epochal triumph of statecraft illustrated by the many millions killed.
I can remember in the 60s passing out balloons and literature for my socialist high school teacher's campaign for Parliament(this was Canada) and actually believing the twaddle. The ballons should have tipped me off. My father was an unemployed teenager through the thirties and the communists and other socialists were the only parties selling anything in the interests of the downtrodden, deluded though their proposals were. As a result the older members of the working class looked upon and in fact still consider socialist government as savior. Just watch them turning out to bless the local Dem. or Rep. in the democratic secular rite of the next election.
I am thankful for modern technology and hope that soon my children and grandchildren will be caught up in a massive wave of anti-political and state-hating belief, emotion and intellect that will dispose of this ruling class nonsense as thoroughly as Mr. Cleen doing a toilet bowl.
Johnny in Wi.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:18 pm
The has been tremedous voter fraud in this state in the liberal bastiens around the universties especially in Madison and in the inner city of Milwaukeee. The Democrats stole and least 3 close elections in those voting wards. there alos has been tremendous voter fraud in cities like Jacksonville Florida, Philidephia, and inner cities across the country. They were givening bums cartons of cigarrettes in the inner city of Milwaukee. a rich liberal women from out of state was taking them to the polls, in her SUV and giving them the smokes. She got caught and prosecuted. she was worth hundreds of millions of dollars. There have been many other shenagans here.
Johnny in Wi.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
It's the truth and most of the people here in Wi. know it. That is why Walker was elected twice in this state by large margins,even though the unions spent almost 100 million dollars to beat him. The unions stole at least 1 billion on healthcare insurance alone in this state. This state badly needed these reforms and that is why the Republicans are in such good shape here. I will say right now if Romney somehow comes up with some kind of foreign policy that promises some hope of peace he will sweep most of the Midwest that Obama won. That includes Michigan, and illinois. It's up to Romney. He is trying to get Ron Paul's votes. But unless he comes up with a more peaceful foreign policy he won't get them and he will lose.
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Oswaldwasalefty
August 24th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
The cities of both conventions will turned into defacto military fortresses. What else should anybody expect? If we were aliens we would find it interesting that all these politicians around the globe spouting terms like "democracy" and "freedom" always turn a city into a fortress whenever they gather for meetings and other large gatherings. You know, the G20, IMF/World Bank, WTO, World Economic Forum, the major U.S. political party conventions, etc.,.
The Democrats and Republican parties are little more than government patronage networks between the government and the favor seeking private sector. The way these conventions are run now is along the line of the Leninist Democratic Centralism. Once The Party formulates a line, you have to tow it or you will be kicked out in one way or another.
I'm with Chris Hedges on the election. Find a suitable third party to vote, vote for it and don't spend too much time thinking about it. We're getting the same policies no matter who gets elected. We'll get a lot more opposition to a Romney presidency from the now dormant "left" Obama lovers. Just one reason why I want Romney to win the election. He's a lot less dangerous than Obama because he can't make vulgarity look pretty the way Obama does.
Tom Mauel
August 24th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Illinois?. Give me a break.
Tom Mauel
August 24th, 2012 at 2:33 pm
The number of votes you are talking about are tiny compared to the tens of thousands of registered voters illegally scrubbed from registration roles in Florida and Ohio.
Johnny in Wi.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Illinois is in desparete shape. The Deomcrats and their union buddies have run the state into bankruptcy. There have been huge tax increases and much money has been borrowed. Still the state is bankrupt and nothing is getting better. The conservative Republican candidate for governor almost won the last election. Romney can win Illinois if he has a more peceful foreign policy. All over the Mid West the ecomony stinks. Right now I say Romney will easily win Wi. Indiana, Iowa, and has a good chance in the rest of the Mid West if he can come up with some hope for peace. Right now with his present warmongering foreign policy he won't make it.
Johnny in Wi.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
You mean the voter lists are being purged of people who don't exist or have died? The lists need to be updated every election.
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August 24th, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Move toward peace? You have got to be joking. You're anti-union bias has left you dellusional.
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August 24th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
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August 24th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
He didn't split with antiwar.com. A fund that was supporting antiwar.com was being used to help pay for Scott Horton's show. It ran out of money and his show no longer receives direct money from antiwar.com. At least that's according to Scott Horton himself.
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David C. Kanz
August 24th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
I have never seen the types of public displays of gross aggression and power as at this Republican Convention. Assault vehicles, SWAT teams and now drones? My god! Does anyone else find this behavior unacceptable?
gstorm
August 24th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Silly you. The people's vote doesn't count. It's the electoral college and it is a vastly uphill battle for Romney if polls in Ohio and Pennsylvania prove accurate.
gstorm
August 24th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Try? They mostly succeeded as well as tied up the campaign's money in legal matters. Worse yet, organizations like NOW and the Sierra Club were convinced to spend donated money to fight a candidate that was more pro-women and pro-environment than the one the Democrats nominated. That's how politics corrupts.
MoT
August 24th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Amazing isn't it. I've crossed the half century mark and have been "de-toxing" myself off of the democratic delusions shoved down my throat all of these years and it has only been this past month, while reading up on these conventions, that the switch finally went off. Who'd have thought! Sweet Lord Almighty! The parties are no different than any other private "club" except these grifters are robbing us to pay for their fun and games. The conventions themselves are criminal enterprises.
MoT
August 24th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
What I'd love to see would be a scene straight out of 'V for vendetta" and have thousands march on the convention with masks on. What are they gonna do? Show themselves to be the bloodthirsty bastards they are?
BK20
August 24th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
There is nothing stopping you or anyone else from proving that. Voter registrations are public information as are deaths. So why no investigation or proof?
MoT
August 24th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
That is a bait and switch if there ever was one.
Johnny in Wi.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Romney can't win without Ron Paul's voters. He is trying to get them by attacking the Federal Reserve, pushing for a gold standard, having his son address the convention, and having a tribute video of Ron played at the convention. It won't do the job unless he has some kind of solution to these wars and the problems they have caused. The moves in the direction of peace will come at the convention or they won't come at all, in my opinion. Look for Romney to try to triangulate toward peace perhaps in his speech to the nation at the convention. What could he say? He could say in no way will I start another war without going to Congress for a declaration of war and that he will work for peace. You can see that the Democrats are scared of the way the Paulites and the Romneyites are moving.That is why they are trying the old antisemite canard against Ron and the tribute he is getting. Romney needs Ron Paul's voters alot more then he needs the Neocons who have really zero voters.
MoT
August 24th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Absolutely correct.
gstorm
August 24th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
It says something about our society when those who are "elected" have to build fortresses to protect themselves from the people who vote.
dolly
August 24th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
your mother should win this.
fujh
August 24th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
dumb fuck who needs some to speak for him…what do you say
Hana Johnson
August 24th, 2012 at 11:38 pm
I think that the Republican Party "cut off their noses to spite their faces." Reince Piebus et al made a public display of how rotten they are and have ruined any chance of passing off Mitt Romney as a halfway decent candidate for president. I predict the end result will be that many people will join the Libertarian Party as they did back in 1971-1972 when they were disappointed with the Republican Party. Only this time, there will be significant numbers and the Republicans and Democrats won't have such an easy time discrediting us.
mnkysnkle
August 24th, 2012 at 11:40 pm
It's still on the floor. Re-wrapped with an add on. Now they say it's to prevent an emp attack. Which of course it has nothing to do with it.
guru
August 24th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Why don't you tell us what it says! Tell me what it means!
guru
August 25th, 2012 at 12:02 am
If Antiwar's little girl, can't find her own way. That little slim twit, who thinks she is intelligent. or even beyond her own tartness, sure she has read a book or two, yet doesn't have two sticks to rub against for her own, In her half-witted brilliance she monitors the boards,
My father used to say, "if people had half a brain they would be dangerous", I guess we have evolved.
RParker
August 25th, 2012 at 12:24 am
You're right, David. That woman police chief of Tampa seems itching to have her goon squads blow away some protesters with all that fancy, expensive gear thoughtfully provided by Comrade Commissar Napolitano.
RParker
August 25th, 2012 at 12:45 am
We should stop voting in this corrupted, criminal, corporate, neocon, bankster, Zionist-controlled system, period. The game has been rigged against us for decades now, and is completely beyond fixing, at least through ballots, anyway. Maybe, just maybe, your vote may count in local elections, but that is about it. But this country has become so big, with 300 million people as to be ungovernable, so perhaps we should focus our efforts on the local, city and county level where third parties stand more of a realistic chance and screw these farcical predetermined presidential "elections".
Strider55
August 25th, 2012 at 6:48 am
Do some research on the 1968 Democrat convention in the Kingdom of Daley (a.k.a. Chicago). An investigation several months later branded the chaos as a "police riot." An image search alone (which I just did) is chilling enough. Use the keywords "Chicago 1968 convention riot".
As for the Tampa police chief, she's probably a liberal Democrat like her boss, the mayor. If so, she's likely itching to turn the goons and their weapons on the conventioneers instead.
Prinzowhales
August 25th, 2012 at 8:24 am
I'll be waiting until after the coronation of the Zio-Nazis' 'Number Two Son'–Mitt Romney (Obama, of course, is 'Number One Son') before I unleash any criticism of Ron Paul…(His contemptible son doesn't get that grace period, however)…If Ron Paul stays in the GOP he is just another Barry Goldwater and Patrick Buchanan…"Ropers", I call them… they 'rope' in the strays…Folks who tend to support Freedom and the Constitution…who don't support War Street's War…its government…or its philosophy of murder for profit and a heel for the neck of the poor…__Neither Goldwater nor Buchanan have built a successful organization to counter the enemies of liberty…Paul has spent eight years trying to get an audit of the FED…where did that get us?– Nowhere…not even the cheap seats in Tampa…__If Paul has the integrity and courage we have associated with him…then he will leave the GOP and throw his support to the Libertarian candidate. I'm supporting Rocky Anderson…but, would proudly vote for the Libertarian…or Jill Stein…__Peace has a price…Representative Paul…when you lay down with Demopublican dogs, it is inevitable that you get up with fleas…
A. G. Phillbin
August 25th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
It both says and means that "our elected representatives" are frightened og the people who supposedly "elected" them. What else could it mean?
A. G. Phillbin
August 25th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
What are you gobbering about, idiot?
MoT
August 25th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
I should clarify… What are THEY, the goons "protecting" and those RNC traitorous rats, gonna do. I wouldn't expect freedom loving folks to be the first to use violence. Just those whose business it is to club everyone into submission.
Tom L
August 25th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Just don't vote…. it only encourages them.
Ta,
Outsider
August 25th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
I hadn't heard that Romney is trying to suck up to Paul's supporters. I doubt if this ploy will have much effect unless he firmly pledges not to start a war without going to Congress. Of course, Obama, with other NATO countries, invaded Libya without ever calling it a war. Presidents always find a way around pledges anyway. The fact that Romney wants to zero out his cap gains taxes is enough reason for me to reject him.
Regarding your comments about the Wisconsin recall, Johnny, I think your state went way too far in allowing recalls for purely political reasons. Gov Walker had not even been accused of any illegality to my knowledge. I think the people responded to this blatant union thuggery by overwhelmingly keeping him in office. What a waste of taxpayer dollars by the unions!
Outsider
August 25th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Our monopoly parties don't care if people don't vote, they only pay lip service to voting. What they do care about is nipping in the bud any 3rd parties that have the audacity to challenge them. They were last scared in '92 when Perot received 19% of the vote. The only vote that makes sense is to vote 3rd party – that is, if they actually make it to your state's ballot after trumped up legal challenges by the 2 big bullies.
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Tom L
August 25th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
Voting has all the effect of buying a lottery ticket. Take your time and do something far more fundamentally productive with it. Donate that hour to some other human being or group and make the world a far better place than deciding who gets to control the loot they are going to steal from us whether we voted for it or not.
Ta,
Bob
August 25th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Romney will have no problem getting Ron Paul's votes. Libertarians always end up voting Republican. Always. That's why they are held in contempt by liberals and conservatives alike.
Bob
August 25th, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Ron Paul played the role the libertarians always play in US elections – Make a big stink in the primaries, when their actions make no difference, since primaries are always per-ordained. Then, once the general election happens, the libertarians vote for the "lesser evil", which by wild coincidence is always the Republicans!
That's why "small government libertarians" helped send Bush to the white house for 8 years. Hypocrites. Detestable intellectual cowards, to the last man.
Bob
August 25th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Yeah, just like how they want to outlaw abortion, except for when they have control of the government. Suckers will be suckers.
Bob
August 25th, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Libertarians are the intellectual partisans for the worst of the worst GOP policies. Their Randian proclamations that "greed is good" and "selfishness is a virtue" are the ideological bread and butter of modern conservatism. Salve for sociopaths.
Bobb
August 25th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Libertarians always have been closeted Republicans and always will be. Since they are a subset of a subset, they will never be a major party in the two-party system.
Be happy, though. Paul Ryan is one of you! He's a Randroid who believes women should be property of their husbands. This is your big chance to "take over" the GOP like you've always wanted. It'll also give you yet another justification, once again, to vote Republican while pretending to be "independent"!
Robert
August 25th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
HI THERE CONSERVATIVE COMMENT TROLL DISCOURAGING ANTIWAR PEOPLE FROM VOTING!
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EotS
August 26th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Tom, the interviews are no longer posted at antiwar.com. Scott is doing his show live M-W and F 12:00 – 2:00 on noagendastream.com and the interviews are at scotthorton.org.
roque SANTA CRUZ
August 26th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
no one can beat the nobel peace winner
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John Uebersax
August 30th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Don't stay home. Vote for Johnson. If enough people do that, and Romney loses to Obama by a margin comparable to what Johnson gets, then in 4 years the Republican party might have to adjust its platform. It's true the two parties are thugs, but we still have a little power.
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