Christ Almighty! US Foreign Policy vs. Middle Eastern Christianity
American tax dollars fund anti-Christian pogrom
The US State Department has quietly ceased cataloging violations of religious freedom in its “Country Reports on Human Rights.” Of course, it’s just a coincidence that this comes at a time when Washington is allying with radical Islamists in Libya, Syria, and Iraq. As CNS reports:
“The U.S. State Department removed the sections covering religious freedom from the Country Reports on Human Rights that it released on May 24, three months past the statutory deadline Congress set for the release of these reports.
“The new human rights reports—purged of the sections that discuss the status of religious freedom in each of the countries covered—are also the human rights reports that include the period that covered the Arab Spring and its aftermath.
“Thus, the reports do not provide in-depth coverage of what has happened to Christians and other religious minorities in predominantly Muslim countries in the Middle East that saw the rise of revolutionary movements in 2011 in which Islamist forces played an instrumental role.
“For the first time ever, the State Department simply eliminated the section of religious freedom in its reports covering 2011 and instead referred the public to the 2010 International Religious Freedom Report — a full two years behind the times — or to the annual report of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF), which was released last September and covers events in 2010 but not 2011.”
Part of the reason could be that the state of religious freedom in the US isn’t all that great since the Obama administration tried to force Catholic institutions — hospitals, clinics, etc. — to provide the “full-range” of contraceptive services, including abortion, to their employees. Then there’s the Chick-fil-a controversy, where the city governments of Chicago, New York, and San Francisco want to punish the company whose CEO opposes gay marriage on religious grounds.
Hostility to organized religion — unless you’re a Unitarian, or one of these guys — has long been a feature of contemporary American liberalism, but the kind of radical anti-clericalism that has roiled Europe (and Mexico) hasn’t reared its ugly head in this country until now. The Catholic Church is a favorite anti-clericalist target, but the State Department isn’t discriminating on sectarian grounds: they’ve simply eliminated accounts of all anti-Christian measures taken by foreign governments from their Country Reports.
This makes sense, if you think about it: after all, if you’re allying with radical Islamists in order to overthrow the government of Syria — which has long been a bulwark against Islamic jihadists in the Middle East — then official propaganda has got to reflect this strategy.
In Egypt, where we’re trying to retain some influence in the wake of longtime ally Hosni Mubarak’s ouster, the Islamists have gone on a rampage, burning Coptic Christian churches, murdering churchgoers, and making it impossible for a public Christian presence to exist alongside the Muslim majority. As the Muslim Brotherhood takes the presidency and the parliament, with US support, the country’s Christians have plenty of reason to worry — or emigrate.
In Libya, where a supposedly “secular” party won a plurality in the elections after US-backed rebels took power, one of their first public pronouncements was to disavow the secular label — and reinstate polygamy. You’re only allowed four, but hey, don’t be a hog. And in an economic reform that may resonate in certain quarters in Washington, the charging of interest by banks is controversial if not yet forbidden. Persecution of Libya’s Christians has remained the one constant since the fall of Gadhafi, and vigilante violence is on the uptick.
In Syria, the anti-Christian jihad is well underway, churches are being occupied and ransacked by the rebels and Christian communities targeted in a sectarian “cleansing” campaign:
“Asked whether it was the Free Syrian Army that was telling Christians to get out, Agnes Miriam, Mother Superior of the Monastery of St. James at Qara in the Diocese of Homs, said, ‘Yes … it was the commander on the ground, Abdel Salam Harba, who decided that there was to be no more negotiations with Christians.’
“She said Christians refused to back the rebels, so the rebels used them as human shields.”
The
Vatican has echoed
the Mother Superior’s human shields charge, but the Obama
administration is an unlikely source of sympathy for the plight of
Syria’s Catholics, given their war
on the Church here on
the home front. Indeed, anti-Catholicism
is back in fashion in this country, particularly among the sort of
secular liberals likely to be strong supporters of the President.
Why should the Obamaites be concerned about the fate of Syrian
Christians at the hands of US-backed jihadists
rebels? There’s no political pay-off.
I know this argument isn’t going to be popular with my liberal-lefty readers, of which there are plenty, but listen: this is a deadly dangerous geopolitical game our grand strategists in Washington are playing. From North Africa to the mountain passes of Afghanistan, this administration is linking up with radical Sunni Islamists, some of which are openly associated with or sympathetic to Al Qaeda, as a prelude to their coming showdown with the Iranian Shi’ite theocracy. Their regime-change operation in Syria is but a dress rehearsal for a much wider and more devastating conflict.
Washington’s playing the Sunni card condemns the peoples of the Middle East to the tyranny of sharia law: it means the utter destruction of ancient Christian communities from Tripoli to Chaldea. This has been a consistent pattern of US foreign policy since the Bush administration, which, after all, launched our disastrous invasion of Iraq and thus condemned its heretofore safe and relatively free Christian community to death.
It is undeniable that the Obama administration’s strenuous efforts to attach itself to the coattails of the “Arab Spring” have radically accelerated the threat: indeed, it is fair to say that one of the main consequences of our “successful” policy has been and will continue to be a regional Christian pogrom. The only question is whether this is the inevitable albeit inadvertent consequence of a broader policy, or an intentional campaign to eradicate Christianity from the Middle East.
So where are the much-vaunted and politically powerful “Christian” groups in the US, who are supposed to exert so much influence over the Republican party and its candidates? While the Christians of the Middle East are sinking beneath an Islamist wave, as Washington cheers (and funds the jihadists), such Christian “leaders” as the Rev. John Hagee are too busy anticipating World War III and supporting Israel to notice.
As this administration pursues a policy that puts the Christians of the Middle East and North Africa in mortal danger, where oh where is the so-called Religious Right? They’re carrying the banner of Mitt Romney, who wants the US to openly arm the Syrian rebels. Being a former Mormon bishop and all, Romney no doubt knows about the existence of the tiny Mormon community in Syria: is he concerned about their fate when the jihadists come to town? From the tone of this Mormon propaganda — no.
In Syria, and throughout the region, it is the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches that will be razed to the ground as radical Sunnis backed by the US take power and impose sharia law. If these groups have any lobbying power in the US, I have yet to see them exercise it on behalf of their beleaguered co-religionists. The mainstream media in the Western world, no friend of organized religion of any sort, is content to close its collective eye to the pogrom, whilst cheerleading and covering up for the supposedly heroic rebels. This BBC reporter doesn’t hesitate to ask a nun reporting rebel atrocities if she knows “many people consider you a liar.” Imagine some reporter — particularly one from the BBC — saying that to a Kosovar during the Balkan war. It would never have happened.
If the Obama administration is trying to reinforce the wacky idea that the President is really a secret Muslim, then they are certainly doing a bang-up job of it. As for me, my view is that, like all statists, the Obamaites are hostile to all religion, just on general principles. The church, after all, is a rival power center to the State. In any case, sympathy for the plight of Christians in the Middle East is not likely to be found in those quarters — but, Christ Almighty, what about the rest of the country? Have we completely lost our moral compass, or is the triumph of militant secularism so complete that we can comfortably ignore our own government’s war on Christianity in the Middle East?
Read more by Justin Raimondo
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- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013





planais
August 7th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Christian Zionism doesn't care one fig about Christians in the Middle East. The more of them that immigrate or are driven out, the better. Meanwhil, the neo-cons are the ones that invented the entire strategy of supporting reactionary extremist against secular nationalist currents in the region that were opposed to imperial hegemony. The longstanding alliance with Saudi Arabia is a case in point.
Johnny in Wi.
August 7th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
With friends like the Saudi's and the Israeli's we need no enemies. They both hate Christianity and Christians.
Another Guest
August 7th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
In my book the US Christian fundamentalist churches deserve the utmost condemnation…
I grew up and was educated in the Seventh Day Adventist System…there is not a peep of support for the exterminated Christian community in Iraq…btw the most prominent member of which was Tariq Aziz…Saddam's longtime foreign minister…
At the same time the so-called Christian churches in the US are cheering the brutal Afghanistan occupation…the Libya genocide…the Syria intervention etc…
It should surprise no one that the US is funding and arming Al Qaida…they have done so for years in Chechnya and almost certainly still support that insurrection on Russian territory…
And surprise surprise that Chechen fighters are prominent in the Syrian "rebel" ranks…just like Libya…Afghanistan etc…
This proves that the "war on terrorism" is a complete lie…a PR campaign whose real purpose is to provide cover for a ratcheted up policy of military aggression…either directly or by proxy as in Syria…
And the US Christian establishment is the number one cheerleader of all of it…absolutely disgusting…
peter vojta
August 8th, 2012 at 12:59 am
Religions of this World never finded any real"Universal Truth"…Being member of religious group mainly because I was born there or there..thats the biggest problem….Religion to fit my behaviour?!?!?! This universal "Babylon" as described in the Bible could be corrected by discusion and reasoning from "main world scriptures", but!…here comes the BIG BUT!!!! It will be only possible if Satanic Zionism is reveled to all mankind as the major player of Universal Deceit and Unrest!!!…This unbiblical, atheistic, antisemitic and truly political ideology hiding behind Truth Judaism is the main obstacle for Mankind. Goal of this "truly visible satanic ideology" has always been "just driving religions against each other with them sponsored wars and decption" from time immemorial with fanatical vision to abolish ALL RELIGIONS and RULE THE WORLD…..Unfortunaly, they miscalculated, as anything these criminals preach is against Gods commandmets and Gods laws…so if nonzionists fear Zionism – its justified and eartly problem, but Zionists will face God Almightys ANGER and that will be their end forever and ever…..destruction of Zionism will settle and answer Universal stil unanswered question" . Can people rule for themself live under Serpent lies regecting without Gods comandments ?
With Gods help will destruction of Satan, Resister, Lier, Princ of darkness etc…bring mankind humbly somehow back to Garden of Eden and rebelion against God / with memmory what horrors Internacional Zionism under Satan coursed over time/ will not enter mind of people again…Now, that is TRUTH RELIGION, identifiing "major players in world events, history of mankind and understanding that Satan has been ruling this World into near destruction ….. God has been watching and Mankinds defeat / awakening/ of Zionism will mark "his" presence on Earth…..His presence will renew Love for neigbour and end of wars …..God will not allow Zionism destroy planet and life, "He" promised after Floods, so opposition to Zionism is taking side with GOD ALMIGHTY peter czech
james
August 8th, 2012 at 1:03 am
One note here that should be mentioned;
Apart from Israel who mistreat christians because they are christians, all other persecution is purely political. In all the countries in the M.E. christians are minorities that normally associate themselves with the ruling parties or figure heads. When change comes christians and other people who were associated with these brutal regimes are persecuted. Not to take anything from their unacceptable suffering but to stop this in the future we have to look at the real reasons.
This discussion is very complex and can take books, but historically, christians and jews have lived peacefully in the M.E. for centuries. The only real problem is Israel.
Curious
August 8th, 2012 at 1:38 am
Christianity in the West is dying out. It came, established an empire, lost it, and fell into decay. It didn't change the people. The people changed it. Christian values have been rejected and violence embraced. Pagan honor in battle is now given to people who want war but don't fight it. The only thing the Christian Right has left in order to believe in Christianity is the existence of Israel and the end times soap opera (that shouldn't have been put in the bible in the first place). Ancient Greek philosophy has defeated it in the intellectual realm. Sadly Epicureanism isn't the main victor.
Mark
August 8th, 2012 at 2:13 am
The war-whooping Christians need to step back and re-read that part about The Prince of Peace. Unfortunately, when you see multi-media presentations shown in church that glorify the military it probably won't happen. The fact that at the end of these presentations you see written in small letters, "Produced by the Department of Defense" you know the show is over.
John V. Walsh
August 8th, 2012 at 5:25 am
Very good column, says this Leftie anyway. (And I was also Catholic in my youth.)
An Empire like the U.S. Empire and all those that came before it is essentially the rule of a tiny foreign minority over a large number of people in a country or region. That can only be accomplished by a divide and conquer strategy. Inevitably the Empire supports one side or another to keep them at each other's throats. The Sunni/Shia divide in the Middle East has been very effectively mined by the U.S. of late. If it is necessary to bring religious fanatics to power to bring down a recalcitrant nation or a defiant dictator, so be it. (Such was the case in Afghanistan in the 80s when the U.S. partnered with bin Laden and Al Qaeda – for the first time.) If religious minorities are swept up in the ensuing maelstrom, so be it. On the other hand if religious rulers defy the U.S. Empire as in Iran, they will be vilified, demonized and attacked. The ever shifting alliances will in the long run create blowback and hostility.
The only rhyme or reason to it all is the domination of the Empire and the handful of men and women who run it. In the case of the U.S. Empire, its rule is nearly absolute in much if not most of the world. The corruption that follows such power is also inevitably nearly absolute. And it is easy to see in the arrogant pronouncements of a Hillary, a Bush or an Obama.
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Rob Payne
August 8th, 2012 at 5:38 am
It has been clear for some time now that political leaders who only represent free trade capitalist kingpins are just like their masters in that they are not on anybody’s side except their own. First they tell us they are fighting al Qaeda in Afghanistan (a lie) and then they support al Qaeda linked rebels in Libya and now Syria. They will side with anyone that can further their agenda of keeping the rich rich. So why would anyone expect them to care about Christians or anyone else who are not useful to those ends? Just as world striding corporations have no allegiance to any one nation, neither do national leaders whose only real concern is retaining power or getting more. Nationalism has always been a useful tool for pulling the wool over the eyes of the masses which hasn’t changed since the dawn of civilization in Mesopotamia. Anyone that believes that you can change government for the better by becoming part of it is delusional. The whole left/right thing is nothing more than a divide and conquer tactic and thus the dual party system we now enjoy so much which was designed from the very beginning to ensure that American elites would remain elite, that is to say wealthy. It has worked very well you must admit.
richard vajs
August 8th, 2012 at 5:59 am
The US Establishment doesn't give a tinker's dam about the distinctions between Sunni and Shia – except as another means to get other people to attack each other; the old "divide and conquer" paradigm. Their deity is paper thin and about 6" by 3" in size, printed in green and black. The neocons hate everything and everyone except their own tribe. And the Zionist Christians are so stupid and delusional, they have no clue whatsoever as to what is happening. Like the sheep in Animal Farm, they have been told over and over again a simple catch-all phrase, "Isreal good, Arab bad". These folks don't even know that some Arabs are Christian (not that it would matter to them – "too much info").
zouppie
August 8th, 2012 at 6:09 am
It would appear that to those who rule us, Christianity is a bad thing wherever you find it. However, Islam is a good thing for Europe and North America, and it is only in it's Middle-East variants that it need to be suppressed.
rapunzel77
August 8th, 2012 at 7:17 am
The reason why the so-called "Christian right" doesn't care about the Christian communities in the Middle East is because many of them don't even see these communities as Christian. Because these communities are Catholic or Orthodox, then they must not be Christian. Also, there is a blind adoration of Israel that is very unbecoming. Combine that with American militarism (thinking our country is #1, the military is the greatest, etc) and our activities in the Middle East, it is no wonder that they don't care about actual Christians. As for as the Catholics in the US, it is one of the areas I am pissed off about. I am a Catholic and I am angry that there isn't enough said about the plight of Catholics and Orthodox in the Middle East. Granted, we have had our own difficulties with the administration (ie. the HHS mandate) but something must be said. There is no outrage about it but then again, there is zero outrage about the drone attacks in Pakistan/Yemen, etc either :(.
Another Guest
August 8th, 2012 at 7:55 am
Mark, how absolutely true…
I got up in the middle of the pastor's prayer for "our troops" and "our leaders" and walked out…and have never been back…
nothing against the poor men and women in uniform…who are only cannon fodder from the great unwashed masses…but church is not the place to glorify militarism…
No surprise that our pastor is also a military chaplain in his spare time…when he came to my house to "pray" with me about why I left…I said the first prayer…and included all the people he had left out of his regular Sabbath prayers in church…all those poor people in Iraq, Afghanistan and many other places who wake up to find their children have been blown to smithereens by a drone strike…
You see them on TV shouting Allahu Akhbar (God is Great) in their grief…but that is all somehow okay with our church "leaders…"…let the killing continue…all in the name of Jesus…(formerly known as The Prince of Peace…)
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Macmungo
August 8th, 2012 at 9:46 am
Justin, a good and timely article. A couple of weeks ago, after trying to review American actions in the Middle East over the past decade or so, I came to much the same conclusion about the destruction of Christianity in its homelands as you have. I don't know whether the US role in this disaster has been purposeful or merely incidental, but the end effect has been to make the US government one of the most anti-Christian forces in Western history.
Umm Abdullah
August 8th, 2012 at 9:48 am
- In the U.S., by the way, a mosque in Joplin, Missouri was burned down this week. Many others have been threatened, and some attacked, Still others can't even be built because of opposition from the community around them.
- If Libya allows polygamy or prohibiting usury, are you calling that a violation of religious freedom? That's actually allowing religious freedom – for Muslims.
- Where were you and your concerns about religious freedom when 'Islamists' were being jailed and tortured in these countries? The U.S. only objected if the Egyptians arrested a Western-leaning liberal. I see you're about the same…
- What if most of the people in the Middle East WANT Islamic law? (It doesn't even make sense to call yourself a Muslim and not want to live by Islamic law.)
- Islamic law doesn't mean persecution of Christians, as Muslims know, even if you don't.
- I'm sure you know why the right-wing doesn't mention Arab Christians. Arabs are all vilified as radical Muslim terrorists (even if they're Christian or atheist) because that supports the Israeli propaganda. Wouldn't want anyone to actually find out that it's the Israelis causing them problems…
phildem
August 8th, 2012 at 10:08 am
The polarization of christian and muslim populations is key to Lewis and Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations" narrative.
One of the 'benefits' of western-backing for hard-line islamic states, is that it re-inforces the the 'clash' narrative. Divide and conquer, yet again. Providing fodder for further frightening and alienating the christian west, against a muslim east. Who benefits ?
Umm Abdullah
August 8th, 2012 at 10:22 am
From antiwar,com today:
http://news.yahoo.com/gaza-christians-pray-israel…
Umm Abdullah
August 8th, 2012 at 10:22 am
From antiwar,com today:
http://news.yahoo.com/gaza-christians-pray-israel…
Umm Abdullah
August 8th, 2012 at 10:22 am
From antiwar,com today:
http://news.yahoo.com/gaza-christians-pray-israel…
Nebojsa Malic
August 8th, 2012 at 10:34 am
After 13 YEARS of systematic destruction of Orthodox Christian churches, monasteries, chapels and cemeteries in occupied Kosovo, I am not surprised by Empire's utter lack of care for atrocities against Christians elsewhere.
For that matter, I remember some American missionaries going to Kosovo to "bring Christ" to the "Kosovarians" – not realizing that they were trying to preach on the charred remains of a 1000-year-old monastery, and to Muslims (who unlike Christians, punish apostasy with death).
Nick n Cip
August 8th, 2012 at 11:02 am
There can be no equality in a nation/state whose identity is based on religion, or which makes political or legal distinctions between individuals based on religion. Individual equality is the only sound basis for a just legal/political system. Countries where religion is imposed, or where a person's rights as a citizen or subject are determined by his or her religious "identity" are inherently unjust. In addition, genuine religious freedom does not exist in such political systems. This is true whether the state is Israel, Lebanon, or the KSA. I am not making a case for rugged individualism – people certainly need to band together and make common cause in any society or political system
Nick n Cip
August 8th, 2012 at 11:02 am
There can be no equality in a nation/state whose identity is based on religion, or which makes political or legal distinctions between individuals based on religion. Individual equality is the only sound basis for a just legal/political system. Countries where religion is imposed, or where a person's rights as a citizen or subject are determined by his or her religious "identity" are inherently unjust. In addition, genuine religious freedom does not exist in such political systems. This is true whether the state is Israel, Lebanon, or the KSA. I am not making a case for rugged individualism – people certainly need to band together and make common cause in any society or political system
Agvo
August 8th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Christians in the Middle East do not associate themselves purposefully with brutal regimes as you say. They just try to survive as a minority in these countries, and they don't try to make waves. The creation of the state of Israel made things worse for the ME Christians since it was created by western Christian countries. In Israel itself, they opted to leave in large numbers because conditions for them have become intolerable, even worse than in other ME countries.
winston smith
August 8th, 2012 at 11:42 am
They also need to remember the passages on Balaam's Ass and Miciaih and the 1000 false prophets – who incidentally were telling the king of israel to go to war with Syria.
winston smith
August 8th, 2012 at 11:49 am
I'M SORRY IT AIN'T SO.
What makes the Wahabist Jihadists the Empire insists on employing so dangerous is their intolerance of other religions – that is what a Jihad is – and particularly of Christians and their churches.
james
August 8th, 2012 at 11:58 am
Minorities always keep good relations with the powers that be in any place, I am not saying that they do it by choice. My point is that the article is very simplistic and does not look at the subject from this POV.
Nick n Cip
August 8th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
The Arab nation, because of its great size (Aleppo to Khartoum and Iraq to Western Sahara), its large population, and – most important from the imperialistic perspective – its mineral wealth, has always been a particular target of Britain, France and the US. Events since 2001 have made it absolutely clear that the Arabs have still not escaped from the hand of imperialism that gripped them following World War One.
Western-gifted democracy is not needed. Islamism is only providing the Western powers with leverage to manipulate and exploit sectarian divisions among the Arabs.
The prescription for Arab freedom is the same as it has always been: Unity, solidarity and resistance.
james
August 8th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Winston, you are correct, but we never had any Wahabi crab here before. It only came into prominence when the USA created Al-Qaeda to fight the Russians. They are a very marginal power in the ME until the ugly head of divide and rule appeared again after the invasion of Kuwait.
Again, part of the reason there is a backlash against christians here is due to their association with the dictatorships, look at the reaction of the coptic church during the Egyptian revolution, it was not acceptable at all. One fact you cannot ignore is that all lived in peace before the creation of Israel. Say what you want or distort what you want, that is a solid fact.
james
August 8th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Poor old Serbian, didn't you kill enough muslims already and destroyed their places of worship? Now you cry over destroyed churches. Then again, who needs American missionaries, they should find the real christ first then they can preach unbelievers.
winston smith
August 8th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
"Why should the Obamaites be concerned about the fate of Syrian Christians at the hands of US-backed (jihadists) rebels? "
Can I ask who edited Justin's excellent article with a line through "Jihadist" in the article above at antiwar.com ?
BUT THEY ARE JIHADISTS !!!!
That's why US policy-makers employ them – don't you know ?
And they are back in the employ of the US federal government.
Idiscovered there is awhole history of Islamicist violent rebellion against the Syrian secular state in the '70's, culminating in the Muslim Brotherhood 's uprising in 1981.
But now the Wahabist Jihadists have been brought in and brought back by6 US. policymakers toinsal as they thing a pro-American government.
We actually have photograph of Mr.you-know-who in his American Speicial Forces uniform meeting Zbigniew Brisinski in the 1980's.
winston smith
August 8th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
I'm glad to see Nebojsa Malic has commented on the destruction of priceless monastries and their murals and mosaics after the last time these people were used in Kosovo-METOHIJA.
They are doing the same in Syria,as they did in Afghanistan with the Buddha giant statues.
"Christians to Lebanon and Alwawites to the Grave" chant the "peaceful" Islamicist demonstrations as they march along, and as one British diplomat says,he is alarmed it is always edited out of the Youtube clips.
How much longer will this insane policy go on?
Paul Smyth
August 8th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
For accuracy, it's a Sky News reporter interviewing the Nun, not one from the BBC. His question doesn't seem as accusing as the author suggests.
wars r u.s.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Bringing up the "secret Muslim" bs, no matter how offhanded, is below this place.
winston smith
August 8th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
This is apparantly the cause of it. Apparantly American policymakers are treiified of Arab nationalismand created Islamicism not onthefirst place toattack places like Afghanistan and Jugoslavia but to attack arab nationalismand prevent unity.
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winston smith
August 8th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
They were priceless 11th century Byzantine murals and mosaics and books have been published about themas part of Europe's archictural heritage.
It happens whereever you set these people loose.
Visitor
August 8th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
This article is based on a false premise, that the religious freedom report has been dropped. Clarification: The Religious Freedom section of the annual Human Rights Report by the Department of State has been redundant for many years, since there is a another annual report devoted entirely to Religious Freedom issued by the Department. This is in addition to the one issued by the International Committee. There is a whole office within the Department's Bureau of Democracy and Human Rights devoted to religious freedom and it produces the final report, the original draft of which is provided by the embassies in all countries.
Visitor
August 8th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
This article is based on a false premise, that the religious freedom report has been dropped. Clarification: The Religious Freedom section of the annual Human Rights Report by the Department of State has been redundant for many years, since there is a another annual report devoted entirely to Religious Freedom issued by the Department. This is in addition to the one issued by the International Committee. There is a whole office within the Department's Bureau of Democracy and Human Rights devoted to religious freedom and it produces the final report, the original draft of which is provided by the embassies in all countries.
eric
August 8th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
It was even before Bush drove the Christians out of Iraq . NATO lead by the United States drove the Orthodox christians out of most of Yugoslavia that was under Clinton . Its not just minorities that have to fear the United States and Islam . Orthodox Christian were the largest ethnic groupe in Yugoslavia . So the majority is the minority . With mad bombers in the air and Alqaida on the ground The Serbs agreed to the peace agreements . only to be told these agreements must now be modernized . We are not a Christian country Obama said . He should have said the United States is a Anti- Christian country . ANTI christian in Bosnia , Kosovo , Iraq , Libya ,Egypt and now Syria . This Anti Christian is not just Obama it goes back through Bush and Clinton .
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Richard
August 8th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
You are only confused if you think there are a lot of Christians in America. Most "Christians" are more of a bizarre Ares*-worshiping neo-pagan cult.
Remember Ron Paul (a reasonably Christian dude) getting booed for mentioning the Golden Rule and referring to Christ as the Prince of Peace.
In Rhode Island there have been a few "separation of church and state" kerfuffles of late. One involved the presence of a war monument with a cross on public property. During a 15-minute invective by a talk-radio bimbo I recently had the pleasure of hearing, not once did I hear the words mercy, forgiveness, crucifixion, redemption, resurrection, etc. However, she did utter several variations of battle, fight, soldier, glory, troops, "defending our freedoms", etc.
The atheists may win a victory or two over Christianity, but they have no hope over neo-pagan Ares worship. America's commitment to Jesus' teachings is gossamer thin, but we love love love us some killing.
* I'd prefer to say Mars, but I don't want you to think I'm talking about billion dollar flying robots sending tweets from dustbowls.
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Another Guest
August 8th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
Where are you getting your information, James…?
The Serbs never destroyed one single muslim mosque. to my knowledge..I happen to be in Serbia on a work visa and was surprised to find that our local baker is Albanian…so is the pastry shop owner across the street…in fact it seems that ethnic Albanians have for a long time been the mainstays of the bakery and pastry business in Serbia and Montenegro…
Btw that bakery and pastry shop are so popular that folks are lined up on the sidewalk in the morning to get their fresh baked goods…I have never heard anyone say one bad word about these folks and everyone gets along normally…
Have you ever even been to Serbia…?…I would bet no…but you are willing to blow smoke out of your rear end nonetheless…
This website is not the place to demonize Serbs…who have been victims of the US Empire's aggression and propaganda just like the people of Iraq…Afghanistan…Pakistan…Yemen…Somalia…and on and on…
liberranter
August 8th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
Christian Zionism doesn't care one fig about Christians in the Middle East.
To the extent that they're even aware that such people exist (and you probably would not be amazed to discover that the average Amerikan "evangelical 'Christian'" is pig-ignorant of the existence of such people), Amerikan "Christian Zionists" DESPISE non-Jewish (almost always Arab) Middle Eastern Christians. First of all, most of them belong to either the Eastern Orthodox or Catholic churches, bodies that the rabid evangelicals consider to be almost as abominable and pagan as Islam. Second, the existence of Arab Christians clashes with the apocalyptic narrative of the end times that these evangelicals live to experience. In their twisted misunderstanding of the Bible, Jew=Good, Arab=Bad. No nuances, no exceptions. Much easier to cling to this juvenile simplicity than to absorb the truth.
liberranter
August 8th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
The regime ruling over us hates Christianity and Christians too – the non-state-approved version, that is.
liberranter
August 9th, 2012 at 12:14 am
The war-whooping Christians need to step back and re-read that part about The Prince of Peace
The Prince of Peace hasn't been the center of the church for the last 1,700 years. The militaristic, state-worshiping cult that is so many of today's churches, especially here in Amerika, is only the latest manifestation of the cult that completely subsumed the original church almost exactly 1,700 years ago. That was when an ambitious Roman politician seeking the throne of Rome decided that he would co-opt this burgeoning Christian religion, one that he didn't personally believe in at all. However, he saw that it held hundreds of thousands of Roman citizens in its thrall, so he was determined to make it HIS religion, HIS weapon to use in seizing temporal power. Ever the politician, he "converted" to this religion, made it the official religion of the Roman Empire (a move that should have repelled any genuine New Testament Christians and served to gauge just how real his "conversation" was), and proceeded to murder, conquer, enslave, pillage, and exercise raw tyrannical power – just like all of his pagan predecessors.
So, as we have seen down through the ages, nothing has changed, as anyone who has studied history from the fall of the Roman Empire to the modern era knows. "The church," no matter what its denomination, no matter what nation it calls home, does the bidding of the Omnipotent State above all else. Any resemblance to the real thing is purely coincidental and purely a convenient byproduct of whatever is done on behalf of the temporal State.
liberranter
August 9th, 2012 at 12:18 am
Also, there is a blind adoration of Israel that is very unbecoming.
What most of these morons don't realize is that Israel is an overwhelmingly secular and socialist nation, with less than 15 percent of its Jewish population claiming any religious affiliation at all.
liberranter
August 9th, 2012 at 12:21 am
For that matter, I remember some American missionaries going to Kosovo to "bring Christ" to the "Kosovarians"
Another laughable and embarrassing misadventure by clueless morons who never took geography or history lessons in school.
liberranter
August 9th, 2012 at 12:26 am
Most "Christians" are more of a bizarre Ares*-worshiping neo-pagan cult.
Bingo! See my earlier post on the Emperor Constantine for the roots of this phenomenon.
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richard vajs
August 9th, 2012 at 5:02 am
"neo-pagan Ares worship" – as good a description of the Old Testament as any. The Old Testament justifies and actually demands authoritarianism, genocide and tribal warfare. It condones fraud (Jacob's shafting his half brother Esau), incest (Lot and his daughters), manipulation and scheming for others' deaths (The whole Book of Esther) and on and on. Compared to the New Testament, it is actually irreligious. But, these fundamentalist Christians worship the Old Testament, and reject everything about Christ – preachers like John Hagee stay in the Old Testament and skip over the whole New Testament until they land in Revelations – a bizzarre, psychadelic tale of extreme violence and divine torture. Thomas Jefferson excised everything from his Bible except the words of Christ. A "Christian" following the Old Testament/Revelations is not a Christian – as you say they are pagans
Visitor
August 9th, 2012 at 7:18 am
A REALITY CHECK: I was truly surprised by this article which is so intemperate and REPLETE WITH FACTUAL ERRORS AND CONSPIRACY THEORY. For starters, the State Department’s report on International Religious Freedom for 2011 IS available on their website and the 2012 report is out early next year. Like the International Human Rights Report and the newer Report on Anti-Semitism, it is Congressionally-mandated and has an important constituency. No White House would be able to ignore that mandate. While the Middle East is an area of concern for this constituency, it is not the only one; China is another cause for serious concern.
MORE FACTS: The US report has carefully documented the treatment of Iraqi Christians since the country’s liberation as it has other such abuses in the Middle East and around the world. It is too early as yet to determine how Christians will fare in Libya and Syria. In Libya, much will depend on how welcoming the new government will be towards the ethnic groups that make up the small Christian community [Copts, Italians, Russians and East Europeans, and Africans.]
Visitor
August 9th, 2012 at 7:20 am
Visitor comments continued: It is quite true that Christians have been the victims of violence and discrimination in Egypt, but it did not start with the Arab Spring; it had long been part of the Mubarak regime’s divide and conquer strategy. Today, Egypt is not run by Islamists, but by a military junta, the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces [SCAF], that has assumed almost all legislative and executive authorities and that is demanding that its custodianship over the country be enshrined in any new constitution drafted and which they must approve. One of the most vicious attacks on Christians and their Muslim allies was carried out on orders by this ruling SCAF. While these demonstrators were gathered peacefully in front of “Maspero” the government’s main TV and radio center to protest earlier attacks on churches that the government did nothing to stop, the military police charged the crowd. Many of the dead were run over by their armored vehicles. Despite the fact that the whole tragedy was caught on camera, the SCAF, which has granted itself immunity from prosecution anyway, denies all.
Justin Raimondo
August 9th, 2012 at 7:22 am
You didn't read the article, or else failed to follow the links provided. Yes, the congressionally-mandated report on religious freedom is being issued separately from the Country Reports — that is the "innovation" reported at the beginning of my column. By separating these, the impact is lessened: and that is the point.
I have no doubt that this administration is eager to document the ill treatment of Christians in Iraq: after all, Iraq was Bush's war.
Visitor
August 9th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Visitor comment, last section: The newly-elected President Mohammed Morsi has few if any authorities. The SCAF sent in the annual budget before he was sworn in. He has not even been able to appoint his cabinet and advisors without SCAF approval. They even chose as his personal chief-of-staff a retired general. Finally, the article trots out the notion that the U.S. somehow controls and funds all events; this is exactly how Middle Eastern conspiracy theorists look at things. Even assuming once again that President Obama somehow supports Islamists coming to power, which he certainly does not, it is hard to think that the Congress would have. A close look at the U.S. reaction to sudden change in the region demonstrates an Administration clearly in shock and playing it day by day, with allies Saudi Arabia and Israel drawing their own lines in the sand. Those of us seeking to end military adventurism need careful analysis of the facts, not way out theories.
Visitor
August 9th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Visitor comment, last section: The newly-elected President Mohammed Morsi has few if any authorities. The SCAF sent in the annual budget before he was sworn in. He has not even been able to appoint his cabinet and advisors without SCAF approval. They even chose as his personal chief-of-staff a retired general. Finally, the article trots out the notion that the U.S. somehow controls and funds all events; this is exactly how Middle Eastern conspiracy theorists look at things. Even assuming once again that President Obama somehow supports Islamists coming to power, which he certainly does not, it is hard to think that the Congress would have. A close look at the U.S. reaction to sudden change in the region demonstrates an Administration clearly in shock and playing it day by day, with allies Saudi Arabia and Israel drawing their own lines in the sand. Those of us seeking to end military adventurism need careful analysis of the facts, not way out theories.
Another Guest
August 9th, 2012 at 8:18 am
Quite obviously "Visitor" is some kind of low level apparatchik attached to some government propaganda arm or another…
Please spare us your BS about minutiae that has nothing to do with the big picture…the big picture being an out of control imperial policy of nonstop military intervention…along with stirring up internal strife in countries targeted for regime change…like Syria…and before that Libya…
You should be ashamed…get a real job where you won't have the blood of innocent children on your hands…
Another Guest
August 9th, 2012 at 8:23 am
And one more thing…it seems quite obvious that this issue of US-sponsored destruction of Christianity in the Middle East is a sensitive spot…
Looks like we've come up with a theme that they are afraid of…"they" being the non-humans who are part of the foreign policy machinery…
It is quite clear from "Visitor's" numerous complaints here that we have hit a nerve…
Let's keep hammering on this issue…this is maybe something that could bring a few people out of their mass media stuopor…
George
August 9th, 2012 at 9:29 am
The average ; "AMERICAN " :is ; aware of the FACT " : What do you you suggest ; we do about it ?
There is a ; " Communist " ; " occupying " ; the White House ; and he ; and his ' minions ' ; are in control '. Or , haven 't ; you ' ; been paying attention ?
George
August 9th, 2012 at 9:32 am
So you ; think ' ;the US . is arming Al Qaida . " Any proof " ?
George
August 9th, 2012 at 9:43 am
The drone ; attacks still continuing ; you can thank ' ;the ; " Communist " ; who is " occupying " the , White House
Dutch
August 9th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Excellent Nick! I was waiting for someone to point this out. Raimondo, as great and brave as he is, is still a journalist, and thus often falls victim to framing his stories in existing pretexts. But all I see in his story and the comments is discussion within the predefined bookends of statism versus religion. To be sure no victory is to be won anywhere in that space. The remedy/antidote to all of it is individualism. The founding fathers, though religious themselves, never set out to define the lines between statism and religion. They rightly recognized individualism as the singular principle behind true liberty, freedom, prosperity and morality. When you have your individual rights, you are free to simultaneously worship as you please, act morally out of your own volition, and manage the affairs of your state in a cooperative manner. Everything I see here, beyond your post, is a discussion of the consequences for the individual in the battle between state and religion for monopoly power. Sadly, approaching any situation under that premise will result in no good solution.
Any solution to the problems presented here will not be about how do we defend Christians from Muslims, the state, etc. The answer is in restoring the sovereignty of the individual such that they are not perpetually corralled into the battle for mass control between religion and the state. Until ALL battles in the arena of the state or religion are opposed by the madate of the individual, we will solve nothing. Church and state are both establishments. Taking either side is a surrender of individualism, and thus a defeat, as is using one as a means to affect the other.
Who can possibly not get at this point that there is no victory for individuals when religions fight religions, states fight states, or when they fight each other. If you want to help Christians, the battle needs to focus on their rights as individuals. If you want to fight state oppression the battle has to be about the rights of the oppressed individuals. But you won't resolve matters of state aggression against individuals by fighting on behalf of their religion or vice versa. Such struggles are fabrication and illusion created to win wars of perception that strengthen both factions at the expense of individual sovereignty. There's no such thing as bad press. Yet Raimondo gives press to states and religions and none to individualism. In my book that is a Fail.
A lengthy article telling us how "policies" are alienating people identified only by their religious classification, or any discussion thereof, is completely inane.
Dutch
August 9th, 2012 at 11:21 am
But what's the point?
Follow your line of logic to its end and consider the impact on the individual even when the state and religion exist in perfect harmony? The only outcome I see is two cooperative hands on the puppet strings of every individual.
Is this the happy conclusion you really are stumping for? With all due respect, you'd be exposing yourself as a fraud if you said yes. I personally don't believe this to be true, but instead feel that you have, with the best intentions, been dragged into taking a side in a fraudulent pretext. What enlightenment or real solution to the problems facing mankind are to be gleaned from any State sponsored report on religious freedom? Pray tell, which of their perverse definitions of "freedom" are they alluding to? And on the other side of the coin, what victory is there in any religious establishment overcoming the state. Ever heard of the Taliban? I mean come on. You're better than this type of pandering. I love your site but the last line of your article is 180 degree opposite the type of reasoned discussion I come here for.
The only question to ever be asked, is what aspect of our Constituional charter is served by ANY of our actions in the Middle East. The answer is none. All subsequent discussions are inane.
Visitor
August 9th, 2012 at 11:35 am
If you go back through the religious freedom reports over the years, you will find that the crimes against Iraqi Christians were indeed reported by the Bush Administration as were those against other Iraqi religious minorities like the Mandeans and Ezidis. Whether or not you believe that it would be more effective to have this issue in the comprehensive annual HR report, Congress clearly felt otherwise. The International Religious Freedom country reports were separated out from other human rights issues because those members of Congress concerned with the fate of religious minorities wanted a stand alone report. Then, those in Congress who felt that the religious freedom report did not adequately cover anti-semitism, mandated yet another, third report, specific to that issue. The other point was that there are no reports missing or delayed. Part of the hypocrisy of it all is that each country gets a grade for its behavior [yes, WE sit in judgement!] which is supposed to have real world implications with regard to our relations. However, a big offender like Saudi Arabia gets exempted from any consequences while an expendable country like Eritrea is condemned.
Visitor
August 9th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Yes, let's not let the facts get in the way! Look, we all agree that there is nonstop military intervention around the world, new wars and new bases, and new terrorist threats. And yes, there is lots of blood of innocent children. That does not mean, however, that we incite or spark every movement for change. Where the conditions are right, we prefer stability, no matter how detrimental it is for the local population.
Some changes are, in fact, every inconvenient. Despite all our complaints about the Syria of Bashar, he was a reliable "freinnemy" for both the US and Israel. We were certainly NOT eager to see either Mubarak or Yemen's Ali Abdullah Saleh go, either. In both cases, however, after some initial heartache, new military bosses stepped in to fulfill our needs. Now, if Ethiopia's Meles, another staunch ally is as sick as some claim, there may be real change there, something we certainly will NOT like.
Visitor
August 9th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
As a Christian from the Middle East, it certainly IS a sensitive subject. U.S. and other foreign meddling have long endangered our communities. Is this harm intentional….no. Does the US care enough about the issue to moderate our policies in the region…..also, no. When voices are raised in Congress about the fate of the traditional churches in the area, it is more often than not to bash Muslims, which in turn does NOT help local Christians. Also, their concern is for the newer denominations often of US origin. The open effort of some, very few, in our own military who see their role as to bring Christ to the region certainly doesn't help either.
winston smith
August 9th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Soory,theEmpire,ably assisted by certain loyalWesternEuropean allies CREATE the instability as an act of policy.
Assad was NOT a "freinnemy", for Geopolitical strategic reasons the replacement of the Syrian government with a pro-American one has been a major policy objective since 2002 and before that.
San Fernando Curt
August 9th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
It thrills my soul to see our neoconservative bloc, virtual mouthpiece of the Israel lobby, showing such support and pressing for action to stop anti-Christian persecution in our future sand traps. But, of course, they haven't. However, I'll bet they'll turn mighty screws to help jam this through:
"A bipartisan bill that would ensure recognition of the plight of 850,000 Jewish refugees displaced from Arab countries since Israel's War of Independence in 1948 has been introduced to the U.S. Congress… (the legislation) calls on the Obama administration to pair any explicit reference to Palestinian refugees with a similar reference to Jewish or other refugee populations.
“The suffering and terrible injustices visited upon Jewish refugees in the Middle East needs to be acknowledged," Nadler said. "It is simply wrong to recognize the rights of Palestinian refugees without recognizing the rights of nearly one million Jewish refugees, who suffered terrible outrages at the hands of their former compatriots"…
“Yet, the injustices done to these Jewish communities that existed for many hundreds of years and that were brutally uprooted have not been recognized or addressed. There are no United Nations resolutions to be found acknowledging this fact,” Chair of the World Jewish Congress of North America, Evelyn Sommer said." That's from <a href="http://www.israelinternationalnews.com” target=”_blank”>www.israelinternationalnews.com just last week. Funny… Don't remember seeing much about that in our mainstream press, either.
I suppose first comes the resolution, next reparations…
San Fernando Curt
August 9th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
It thrills my soul to see our neoconservative bloc, virtual mouthpiece of the Israel lobby, showing such support and pressing for action to stop anti-Christian persecution in our future sand traps. But, of course, they haven't. However, they have time to help jam this through:
A bipartisan bill that would ensure recognition of the plight of 850,000 Jewish refugees displaced from Arab countries since Israel's War of Independence in 1948 has been introduced to the U.S. Congress… (the legislation) calls on the Obama administration to pair any explicit reference to Palestinian refugees with a similar reference to Jewish or other refugee populations.
“The suffering and terrible injustices visited upon Jewish refugees in the Middle East needs to be acknowledged," Nadler said. "It is simply wrong to recognize the rights of Palestinian refugees without recognizing the rights of nearly one million Jewish refugees, who suffered terrible outrages at the hands of their former compatriots"…
“Yet, the injustices done to these Jewish communities that existed for many hundreds of years and that were brutally uprooted have not been recognized or addressed. There are no United Nations resolutions to be found acknowledging this fact,” Chair of the World Jewish Congress of North America, Evelyn Sommer said." That's from http://www.israelinternationalnews.com. Don't remember seeing that in our mainstream press, either.
I suppose first comes the resolution, next reparations…
Daisy
August 9th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
It's hardly inane to the hundreds of thousands of Christians in Egypt, Iraq, and Syria who have seen their churches burned and their communities massacred or expelled for the sole reason that they are individually and collectively viewed as Christians.
The categorization of the "individuals" being wiped out of their indigenous homelands is by the other "individuals" who are inarguably the collective known as Sunni Muslims. Our government is collectively allied with that particular collective.
Why would a writer pen a piece espousing the concept of individual rights when the US government is lining up their military support based on the Sunni imperative demanded by Saudi Arabia and Turkey? We're not allied with "individuals." We're allied with the Wahabi Saudis and Sunni Turks who are collectively supporting the Syrian Sunni opposition that is collectively exterminating the "individuals" who are collectively known as Christians.
Welcome to the real world.
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Northerner
August 9th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
The Syrian, Palestinian, Egyptian and Iraqi Christians have co-existed with Muslims for over a millennia with remarkably few difficulties. Diversity is part of their regional identity. Whenever the relationship has broken down , there always seems to be an interfering colonial hand at play. But they get over it – Lebanon being a prime example.
Contrastingly, the Saudi influence is from the Nejdi 'rulers' who come from a landlocked bastion of zero diversity. Interestingly they 'discover' that Muslims are supposed to be tolerant of Christians only as regards they American protectors that they are in awe of. Their attitude towards their fellow Arabs is that they are either incorrect as Muslims and unworthy of rights, or if not, their abuse may have few bounds. I have a Yemeni friend born in Jeddah but with a Yemeni passport who tells me that Saudi children ask him of his nationality then insult him while their parents watch. If he had a British passport they wouldn't dare.
The Saudi have carefully bred a class of 'clergy' who ignore and in effect support this – focusing on obsessive issues that don't affect 'the rulers'. Those that don't play along are sidelined or worse.
The 'jihadi' aspect of there so-called fundamentalism is convenient to the Saudis – as potential dissidents are often naive enough to be easily persuaded to go off and get themselves killed – and to their American protectors as they constitute a fearless cats paw that can defeat the likes of the USSR in Afghanistan, and now Syria. And can be safely trusted to trash the place afterwards. Which keeps Zionists happy and provides a pretext for further and more direct intervention. It's the spider to catch the fly, etc etc, keeping unprovident feudal masters of various descriptions perpetually in business.
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Nick n Cip
August 10th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
WAY before 2002. It was no accident that the anti-Syrian CIA-supported Muslim Brotherhood rebellion of the early 1980s happened at the height of the confrontation between Syria, Israel and the US in Lebanon. Ollie North was running his own twrrorist bombing cell in Leb/Syria at the same time.
Michael Price
August 11th, 2012 at 2:47 am
Umm.. free trade capitalist kingpins? Like who? Name a political leader that is actually for free trade. The closest you can get is Ron Paul, who's contribute to the running of America is to be outvoted by a larger average margin than any other politician in living memory. There is simply nothing in the elite leadership but hatred and disgust at free trade. That's why nobody in a position of power suggests spending less than 30% of GDP on government, the ultimate unfree trade.
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Umm Abdullah
August 14th, 2012 at 5:11 am
When Egypt was jailing and torturing members of the Muslim Brotherhood, where was all the concern?
When tens of thousands of Sunni Muslims were killed in Syria, where was the concern? I doubt that the number of Christians killed is anywhere near their percentage of the population, so where do you all get the idea that they're being singled out and persecuted?
It was the same in Iraq – every day, Muslims were killed, but when a Christian was killed, there was an uproar about them being targeted.
Islamic law does not persecute Christians. In Islamic countries, they are not even subjected to Islamic law in terms of marriage, divorce, child custody, inheritance, etc. They are judged by their own laws. (Yes, that means that if an American, non-Muslim couple in Kuwait wants a divorce, it is done according to the law where they come from. Even in a Muslim country, Sharia is not forced on non-Muslims. Yet the citizens in the American heartlands are convinced that someone's trying to force Sharia on them over there…)
Christians have been living in the Middle East since Christianity began. Even in the Gulf (excluding Saudi Arabia, which is a special case), they have churches and worship freely. More freely than Muslims, in fact, since I've never heard of the government monitoring their sermons or the donations their members give to charity or detaining their leaders.
Please stop assuming that Muslim = persecutor of Christians.
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San Fernando Curt
August 15th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
…But… evidently some do and are.
redwood
August 15th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Obama's foreign policy is as screwed up as "W"'s. Obama isn't violating freedom of religion by requiring birth control and abortion to be included in health reform. Pope Benedict and the late John Paul have been detrimental to their church by protecting pedophile priests, opposing gay and lesbian rights even if some of those pedophile priests are gay and opposing birth control while so much of the world is over populated. Chick-Fil-A violates the separation of business and church by making Religious Right rules and openly opposing same sex marriages..
Nick n Cip
August 17th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
"The Fading Arab Oil Empire" is a misnomer to start with. The oil that was rightfully the patrimony of the Arabs was largely appropriated by western oil corporations. It is not imperialistic to control your own resources, but it is so to control the resources of others.