The Bloodlust of Walter Russell Mead
Syria and the regime-changers' credo of death
Good news — the Syrian rebels are mellowing! McClatchy news agency reports from the front lines:
“Abu Abdullah said that the [rebel military] council had ordered the executions of some 150 men since the beginning of the conflict, but that the rate had declined as the rebels feel the neighborhood is ‘cleaned’ of pro-regime elements.
“’In the beginning, we would execute 10 or 15 men a week,’ he said. “Now it’s closer to one every 10 or 20 days.’”
That’s what I call progress. Before you know it, they’ll go to monthly executions. Maybe they’ll even stop putting prisoners in cars rigged with explosives and then detonating the vehicle remotely when it approaches a government checkpoint — another charming practice noted by McClatchy. But don’t get your hopes up….
So barbarous are these “rebels” that they record their atrocities for posterity by making videos and posting them on YouTube: they expect the world to applaud them rather than step back in horror. Over at the US State Department, they aren’t exactly applauding, but then again neither are they backing off their support for the “Free Syrian Army”: “We condemn actions like that,” said Jay Carney, former Obama shill at Time magazine and now the official White House spokesman, “but [he] quickly added that Syrian government forces have perpetrated “the overwhelming amount of violence in Syria.”
Just wait until the rebels get in power: they’ll soon match — and perhaps outstrip — the atrocities the Assad family has committed in its decades of dictatorship. Summary executions, the “cleansing” of neighborhoods, the car bombs, the imposition of Sharia law on the “liberated” areas — the Islamist reign of terror in Syria has just begun, and you are paying for it with your tax dollars. Remember that when tax time comes along.
Yes, the US government “condemns” these monsters, but they’re footing the bill for the insurrection, championing the rebels in international diplomatic forums, and sending aid directly to these monsters. What does a condemnation out of Carney’s mouth mean in this context?
Next to nothing. After all, why should the US do anything more than lamely try to distance themselves from the rebels’ bloodthirsty jihad — when our own military does much worse as a routine matter? We launch cowardly drone attacks on distant targets, raining death on women, children, donkeys, and anyone or anything that gets in our way, killing thousands of civilians. We lock up prisoners — most of whom are innocent — without charges and keep them for years. Our decades-long campaign to carry out regime-change in Iraq resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians, not only in the course of the fighting but also in the run-up to the shooting: sanctions murdered many thousands of children and old folks. And we justify it all with a barrage of lying propaganda — and brazen arrogance — which is lapped up by the “mainstream” media.
The real military heft of the rebel army is provided by Al Qaeda and its affiliates, while the “Free Syrian Army” is basically a myth: the reality is that the FSA is just a name, while the rebels’ military assets are located in a myriad of local militias under the control of radical Islamists. When Syrian newscaster Mohammed al-Saeed was kidnapped from his home in Damascus by rebel forces, his execution was publicized in a video with the Al Qaeda flag flying in the background. “May this be a lesson to all who support the regime,” the kidnappers declared. If this isn’t terrorism, then there is no real meaning attached to the term. The murder was claimed by the “Al Nusra Front,” a local gang of jihadists who openly support Al Qaeda. Al Nusra has been behind most of the really spectacular successes pulled off by the rebels: the suicide bombing in Damascus that killed top Ba’ath party officials, including the minister of defense; a raid on the heavily fortified Syrian Air Force building in Damascus and numerous other attacks on targets throughout the country.
Of course, no Westerner who supports the rebels could actually defend these atrocities, which is why Carney and his bosses are issuing empty “condemnations. Oh, but wait: we haven’t taken into account Walter Russell Mead, the noted foreign policy analyst and neocon-par-excellence, who writes:
“We think the human rights crusaders calling for the arrest of the rebels after these executions are barking up the wrong tree. Revolutionary Syria has no courts and no law at the moment. To speak of ‘crimes’ in circumstances like this is to make rhetorical noise, not to enunciate valid principles of law. Aleppo is in a state of nature, where there can be no crimes and the law of the jungle is pretty much all that applies.”
To warmongers of Mead’s ilk, who glories in his “hard-headed” invocation of the Law of the Jungle, the idea of moral law — a law above states, courts, and the apparatus of coercion — is just “rhetorical noise.” Glorious “revolutionary Syria,” where US tax dollars are going to fuel Washington’s regime-change operation in the Middle East, exists in “a state of nature” — a condition that underscores the real nature and goal of our policy in the region.
What the Americans are doing in Syria goes way beyond mere “war crimes.” In the past, acts deemed “war crimes” mostly consisted of random incidents, rather than pre-planned efforts to, say, exterminate an entire people. The Nazis are recalled with universal loathing precisely because of the exceptional character of their horrific crimes. The Communists, although less loathed, engaged in similarly large-scale atrocities. What is happening in Syria is the planned extermination of a nation, rather than a people. While it’s true US support for the rebels is a dagger aimed at the heart of Syria’s Christian and Alawite minorities, the effective elimination of these groups isn’t the goal of our regime-changers: their purpose is to atomize the Syrian state and produce a region in chaos. To divide, smash up, and remake the Muslim world — that’s the long-range goal. In the short term, however, they’ll settle for a blow struck at their principal enemy in the region. The rebels are but a lure, which this administration is hoping will reel in a really big catch: the Iranians.
The kidnapping of dozens of Iranian religious pilgrims in Syria — also claimed by Al Nusra — and the rebels’ contention that the pilgrims are in reality “Iranian Revolutionary Guards” sent in to aid the regime, is a clear provocation. Adding fuel to the fire, the rebels proclaim their intention to target any and all Iranians on Syrian soil: just the sort of tactic one might expect of a terrorist group, which murders indiscriminately. Note that in this account, Al Nusra is wearing its “Free Syrian Army” hat, another clue to the interchangeability of these supposedly separate groups.
The FSA/Al Nusra terrorist ethos is the perfect instrument for carrying out the Western agenda of regional chaos. While Jay Carney can issue all the condemnations he wants, the atrocities committed by America’s Syrian sock-puppets are the key to the success of our strategy in the Middle East. And as thousands die, Mead can effectively tell us to look the other way. After all, Syria is in a “state of nature” — thanks to US government support for the rebels — and the laws of man and God are suspended. Those laws will “return” if and when our sock puppets take Damascus.
This is the credo of the War Party, in all its insane Bizarro World glory: in articulating it so bluntly, the role of people like Mead is to justify mass murder — but is he really up to the job? He concludes his apologia for the jihadists with a call to escalate the slaughter:
“More blood must now flow in Syria. Peace will come when the winners are tired of killing and the losers are ready to submit. There will likely be more horrendous footage uploaded to the internet. It’s as if the infamous women knitting in the shadow of the guillotine during the French Revolution had cell phones and streamed the bloody pictures to a waiting world. This revolution, at least in part, is going to be televised, and we aren’t going to like what we see.”
It’s the War Party’s credo of death in a nutshell:
“More blood must flow”!
It must flow like a great river, “cleansing” pro-Assad neighborhoods in Syria, driving everything before it and welling up to break the dam of the Shi’ite regime in Iran, flooding the streets of Tehran in a scarlet rain. What’s interesting here is that Mead openly invokes the Jacobin spirit that animates the regime-changers, including himself. This is a development most of us will find a bit surprising, and maybe even shocking — except for the conservative philosopher Claes Ryn, who early on detected the Jacobin spirit in the previous administration’s foreign policy:
“Today communism has collapsed, but another universalist ideology, the new Jacobinism, has taken its place. A difference between the French and the new Jacobinism is that the latter has chosen not France but America as mankind’s savior.”
As Uncle Sam drags one nation after another to the guillotine, while the neocon Madame Defarges of the Twitterverse celebrate videos of summary executions, the real nature of the neocons’ “historic mission” — as professor Ryn puts it — becomes all too readily apparent.
The danger posed by the US to the rest of the world is more than the equivalent of the threat once posed by the totalitarian ideologies of National Socialism and its Communist blood brother. Like the Communists, the warlords of Washington have their paid agents in every country, who are hard at work carrying out their orders to pulverize entire nations and leave them drenched in rivers of blood. We see them at work in Syria, and, soon we will see them in Iran.
Onward, ever onward pushes the American juggernaut, with our Lilliputian allies following in our wake as we chart a course set for nothing less than world domination. Relentlessly aggressive, ruthless in its methods, and merciless when it comes to systematically targeting and eliminating its enemies, American imperialism is the main danger to peace and liberty on earth. None of us is safe until it is put out of business — no, not even American citizens, who can be killed by order of our commander in chief, a death sentence against which there is no defense, no trial, and no possibility of appeal.
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- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013
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Another Guest
August 5th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
"What the Americans are doing in Syria goes way beyond mere 'war crimes'… What is happening in Syria is the planned extermination of a nation,"
Oh my…so now we have a crystal clear picture…the US and their pet "rebels" in Syria are the real bad guys…
But wait…for months this very website was bringing us daily news about how the Assad "regime" was murdering peaceful, pro-democracy demonstrators…
Something does not add up here…Anyway…better late than never…
Although the "news writers" on this website continue to echo the mainstream media storyline…for example in the last few weeks we have had repeated instances of the canard that outside support for "both sides" is prolonging the conflict…
In other words the Russians (and Chinese) supporting a legitimate UN member state that is under outside attack from a foreign aggressor (US and its sock puppets Turkey, Saudi etc…) seeking to topple the nation's government… is exactly the equivalent of the US providing arms, mercenaries, cash, safe havens in neighboring countries…etc…to those same rebels…
What an interesting interpretation of international law…
MoT
August 5th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
If Mead is so eager for blood to flow why doesn't he move his ass over there, don the usual costume of the jihadist FSA, and get after it? "Git 'er done!" as some would say. Or does he think of himself as too important?
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John V. Walsh
August 6th, 2012 at 5:54 am
Justin writes a superb and revealing account.
But the first commentator above has a point when he says: "But wait…for months this very website was bringing us daily news about how the Assad "regime" was murdering peaceful, pro-democracy demonstrators… Something does not add up here…Anyway…better late than never… "
I guess that is true – better late than never.
But now that the cat is out of the bag on the Syrian "Freedom Fighters," a new narrative is setting in among some elements of the intelligentsia – that outside forces, plural, are responsible for the slaughter on both sides, that it was Assad versus "peaceful" "activists," and then later BOTH the U.S. and Russia jumped in. This narrative will be developed further by NPR and others. I suppose the new narrative will conclude that at least the U.S. started out on the side of right and will have to clean things up later. But this is nonsense. The U.S. was there from the outset, with the U.S. ambassador giving the green light to go ahead. And Wesley Clark told us that there were plans dating back to at least 2001 to destroy seven governments in the Middle East and Africa, Syria being one of them.
Beware of the narratives of the elite press. They are well considered by our masters before being peddled to us.
Meanwhile we rely on Justin and those like him with the proper degree of skepticism to provide us with insight. Our government and its minions in the MSM lie. Whenever we find out the truth, it inevitably turns out that they were lying far more than we imagined.
Margaret
August 6th, 2012 at 5:54 am
Not supporting the rebel jihadists doesn't automatically mean "support and approval" of the Assad regimes actions……… You warmongers always try to create only two scenarios to choose from.
John V. Walsh
August 6th, 2012 at 6:15 am
One more thought. I sit here on the shores of a large and beautiful lake at breakfast on a sunny vacation morning. I read Justin's column and across the table sits someone very interested in politics who is disapproving of the U.S foreign policy.
But my breakfast company reads articles from the NYT to get the news without ever getting exposure to a column like Justin's. Sadly there is little interest on his part to look at my iPad and Justin's column. We have so very far to go in getting the word out.
Thomas L. Knapp
August 6th, 2012 at 8:05 am
"their purpose is to atomize the Syrian state"
You write that like it's a bad thing.
Stanley Laham
August 6th, 2012 at 9:27 am
"The real military heft of the rebel army is provided by Al Qaeda and its affiliates, while the “Free Syrian Army” is basically a myth: the reality is that the FSA is just a name, while the rebels’ military assets are located in a myriad of local militias under the control of radical Islamists. When Syrian newscaster Mohammed al-Saeed was kidnapped from his home in Damascus by rebel forces, his execution was publicized in a video with the Al Qaeda flag flying in the background."
What flag did you epect them to fly, their true sponsors' : Mrs. Clinton's flag. Where are all these " Al Qaeda" forces infiltrating from? Turkey mostly, Iraq, Jordan and Lebanon. Where are they from? Qatar, Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Libya and even trained as far away as Kosovo. Can one believe that such a well coordinated and integrated terrorist assault on Syria could be pulled off without the logistical support of a global power such as the US with Israel to boot?
Daisy
August 6th, 2012 at 9:44 am
"While it’s true US support for the rebels is a dagger aimed at the heart of Syria’s Christian and Alawite minorities, the effective elimination of these groups isn’t the goal of our regime-changers:"
I'm no longer sure it's not the primary goal. Every country in the Middle East in which the U.S. government decides to meddle (Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Egypt), the Christian communities – most of whom are the indigenous people of those lands – are being expelled or massacred and their churches burned to the ground. What if the real goal of the pro-Zionist U.S. government is actually the annihilation of the Near and Mid-Eastern Christian communities and all the rest of it is just a smoke-screen to cover it up?
Saudi Arabia funded the 9/11 terrorists. But there are no Christians in that country. So we invade and destroy Iraq instead – a country that was no threat to the U.S. and had no WMD but did have hundreds of thousands of Christians.
What if everyone is wrong and destroying the Christians of the Near and Middle East has been the goal from the beginning?
Daisy
August 6th, 2012 at 9:48 am
The real reason to attack Iran???
With all the war drums beating to attack Iran, no one seems to be pointing out or even appears to be aware that there are over 300,000 Christians living peacefully and with minimal discrimination in that country.
San Fernando Curt
August 6th, 2012 at 10:14 am
"The Communists, although less loathed, engaged in similarly large-scale atrocities."
…And never has slaughter of millions been so relentlessly ignored.
San Fernando Curt
August 6th, 2012 at 10:15 am
Bad? Compared to what?
Justin Raimondo
August 6th, 2012 at 10:19 am
There is no contradiction between reporting the atrocities of the Assad regime and also reporting those committed by the rebels. If you're looking for Good Guys and Bad Guys go read the comic books. As for the "legitimacy" of the Assad regime: membership in the UN does not automatically confer "legitimacy" on member states. The Assad regime is no more legitimate than any other brutal dictatorship. We leave that for the Syrian people to decide. As for the idea that aid from Russia and China is prolonging the conflict, that seems indisputable; the same is true for US support to the rebels. But then again, if "Another Guest" is seeking to pick nits, he or she will no doubt find one.
Justin Raimondo
August 6th, 2012 at 10:21 am
If the Syrian people want to atomize their own state, that is their affair. If the US government is on a campaign to atomize it — supposedly on behalf of the Syrian people — then yes, that is a Bad Thing.
Justin Raimondo
August 6th, 2012 at 10:22 am
You make an excellent point: perhaps a subject for a future column….
Thomas L. Knapp
August 6th, 2012 at 10:24 am
Precisely.
I oppose US/NATO (or any other) intervention in Syria. But I have no sympathy whatsoever for the existing Syrian state, either. If it falls, my only regret will be that other states benefit from its fall.
muggles
August 6th, 2012 at 10:55 am
I suppose one point to make in all of this is the apparant absence of a hidden Israeli hand behind any of the Syrian uprising. Usually in the Middle East that is among the first claims. Syria a the largest state bordering Israel (other than Egypt, whose border is mostly Sinai desert for a long way) and one would expect the Israelis to have superior insight there. Yet oddly, not much from that quarter. Not even any American political cheerleading for some kind of Israeli intervention.
Even the usual anti Zionists seem quiet. Is there more going on here? Or has Israel become suddenly noninterventionist? It appears to be the dog that isn't barking…
MvGuy
August 6th, 2012 at 11:11 am
"What about the Israeli "state" getting……..as you write "atomize(d)" Would that be a "bad thing" …..???
What about those there on the ground… ?? In Syria or Israel………. seems that to "atomize" the state would cause lots of dead children, women, non-combatants and the innocents…… dogs, cats and the loved ones of the aforementioned…….. YOU as a STAFF MEMBER, VOLUNTEER here at AW.com should not be so easily seduced by such violent solutions…… Your Zionism, is showing BIG TIME along with your double standards-cum-hypocrisy…… Who ARE you…???
at·om·ize
/ˈætəˌmaɪz/ Show Spelled [at-uh-mahyz] Show IPA verb, at·om·ized,
1. To reduce to atoms.
2. To reduce to fine particles or spray.
3. To destroy (a target) by bombing, especially with an atomic bomb.
Do you subscribe to the Keatonian quote: "One of the joys of working at Antiwar.com is knowing that 98% of your critics are garbage cans "
Tom, Please clean your act. up a bit…………..
mickperry
August 6th, 2012 at 11:52 am
We can only wonder to what extent the historical role of the British and French experience in destroying the Ottoman empire plays in all of this.
Another time, same area, when brother was pitted against brother by the likes of Lawrence of Arabia et al; and experience is after all a lesson learned and probably never forgotten.
It is safe to presume that history provides more than a footnote to events in the current play book of this now seventy year old empire.
As regards the history of this new empire, there is a book written by Thomas Toughill which offers much insight into it's emergence.
The book is described by Gore Vidal as “ a fascinating examination of FDR's war plan, (1941-45) and how, indeed, he gained for the US the world that he wanted perhaps since his philatelist youth.”
Hitler said that was going to be either Washington or Berlin.
Daryl Davis
August 6th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
It is neither the responsibility of the U.S., nor of any nation beyond those that comprise the Middle East itself, either to draw up or to impose a plan for lasting civil order. The survival of any administration or regime and, in fact, of any nation hinges upon the capacity of a great majority of its citizenry to govern their own lives, to respect the lives of their fellow citizens–and to stand up against those who won’t.
If the citizens of a country are incapable of such civil sophistication and so require a dictatorial regime to maintain order; or if they have the necessary sophistication but lack the courage to fight for that order; then no amount of foreign intervention will ever create a stable nation.
http://whatdirectdemocracymightbe.wordpress.com/2…
Our outright guilt and relative complicity in the deaths of innocents in Syria and throughout the Middle East does not exonerate those divided peoples from the bitter ethnic and sectarian intolerance we have often used against them. There, the prevailing, tribalistic lack of respect for impartial law–for a nation of laws, not men–underlies the continued unrest and violence in that region: it is their way of life.
We only exacerbate and exploit what is already an immoral condition:
http://whatdirectdemocracymightbe.wordpress.com/o…
San Fernando Curt
August 6th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
You mean Israel… right?
jeff_davis
August 6th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I'm getting a little tired of this phony-ass "brutal dictator" thing with its obligatory and gratuitous prepended "brutal". It's a rhetorical trick that needs thorough deconstruction so that in future everyone will know it for what it is, and be freed of its manipulative power.
Like "Have you stopped beating your wife?" — long deployed as a teaching tool for understanding rhetorical manipulation — or the time worn yet still functional "Don't you support the troops?", or the newly minted "He doesn't believe in American exceptionalism", "brutal dictator" needs to be strapped down and dissected, its manipulative intent dragged out from behind its flimsy cover story, so that in future when deployed, everyone will be able to scoff and say, "F*ck you, you lying manipulative sack of sh*t! Don't try to pull that hackneyed old crap on me!"
All state power is authoritarian. All governments are brutal. The iconification of "democracy"/"liberal democracy" may gull its true believers into a reverie of self-congratulation at their sublime wondefulness, but the violence their dreamy self-delusion enables is no less horrific, no less "brutal"..
"Do you think the death of half a million Iraqi children was worth it?" "Yes" said Madame Albright. Can lynching the entire planet really be an act of compassion? Yesterday's regional "partner for progress" becomes today's "brutal dictator". Explain to me again how that works?
Then consider our "democracy", the good/evil counterpoint to the "brutal dictator". Setting aside the savagery inflicted on other peoples — foreigners, savages, primitives, not even humans, sub-humans really, terrorists probably — setting that aside, just how free, and democratic, and non-brutal is it really? Exactly. Money, not citizens, controls Congress and the Presidency. MIC money, bankster money, insurance money, oil money, Zionist money,… own the US. A brutal and ruthless dictatorship of money hiding behind the money-owned media's "tapestry of lies" owns the US.
What matters is not whether one is owned by a dictatorial regime posing as a democracy or a dictatorial regime not posing as a democracy. What matters is whether the regime is effective in managing disruptive social forces so as to maintain the larger society in a state of peace and stability.
The brainwashing of Westerners into believing in the democracy vs dictatorship, righteous-crusader-for-God's-gift-of-freedom justification is nothing more than a cover for war profiteering. The Western high ground is blood-drenched.
Msili
August 6th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
Iranian state media said women and children were also among those taken by the Syrian rebels.
.http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1237474–syrian-rebels-admit-kidnapping-48-iranians-in-damascuswomen
Jaime
August 6th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Very courageous article Justin. People like you are necessary to tell US citizens -at least those who want to hear it- the inherent evilness in their government's policies.
Jaime
August 6th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
I have one rule regarding the FCM: IF THEY HAVE PUBLISHED IT, IT MUST BE A LIE.
jeff_davis
August 6th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
The dog isn't barking because the dog is scared.
The attempt to remove Assad isn't about Assad, he's been exceedingly cooperative over the years For example, the US has outsourced torture duties to Assad, and he has obliged.
No, the Israelis could live with Assad, and Assad could live with them. And the stability in this otherwise adversarial relationship has been aided by maintainence by Assad of a substantial and capable military, and through possession of strategic deterrence in the form of a sizable stock of chemical weapons and the missile systems to deliver them. Not as sexy as nukes, but not a joke either. Seriously nasty.
This is why the Israelis are quiet. They worry — reasonably or unreasonably, who can be sure? — that if seriously endangered, Assad my go all "Sampson Option" on them. (What could make them think that, I wonder? Psychopathic paranoia,… projection,…awareness that hatred of Israel is the one area of Sunni/Shia agreement?)
For instance, though it might be a low probability scenario, consider this possibility: Assad quickly trains them up, and then gives the Democratic Union Party (PYD), the Syrian ally of the outlawed Turkish Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), the bulk of his military armor along with attack helicopters, and sends them across the Turkish border to join the Turkish Kurds who, now seriously equipped, proceed to engage the Turks in battle for the establishment of a free Kurdistan, payback for Turkey's role in aiding the Western assault on Syria. Then, Assad orders the bulk of his chemical weapons-loaded missiles — scuds et al — fired at Israel, saving a dozen say for Riyadh and Qatar. Simultaneously, he and his family and his air force fly to Iran across mountainous Kurdish territory just inside the Turkish border with Iraq, delivering both his air force and the much-sought-after advanced Soviet S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems to Iran,…in return for "internment" (wink,wink) by the Iranians.
Erdogan gets what he deserves — an unwanted and potentially catastrophic war in Turkey that ends Erdogsan's regime — for being a Western/Nato stooge; the Israelis get mass casualties of a very ugly sort, and who knows what they do, or to whom, in response, and the West gets Syria, complete with roving al Quaeda gangs.
Just one of many possible pleasant outcomes.
"Unintended consequences"… translation: a monster sh*tstorm that starts out seriously ugly, gets worse real fast, and ends,…nobody can say how.
Cakewalk time again.
Jaime
August 6th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
As if nation states were created overnight. With all its defects. Syria has provided a measure of stability to the different religions that have coexisted in that country. If it falls, what will it be replaced with? Of course, that's not something you care about. What will follow will be a long period of chaos and violence, but those sitting behind a desk thousands of miles away will look at it just as a case study, will study it judicioulsy and will declare it a failed state. Exactly the same way you feel about the atomization of Syria, we feel about the atomization of the US except that in our case we would't regrest anything if it happened. I have nothing against Syria because it never meddled in the affairs of my country, because it never told us in an arrogant way what to do, because, in the absence of obeyance to their orders, it never started to plot abd destabilize my country, and because, when everything failed, the dirty Yanks intervened militarily to get their way murdering and destroying everything in the process.
Jaime
August 6th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Superbly put.
An observer
August 6th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Believe it or not you are the second person I've heard expounding this theory. The first is an extremely well known endocrinologist-physiologist-nutritionist and ardent bible scholar. He has many times told me that the true and original Christians of the Middle East, those in Syria still speak the mostly extinct language of Christ, are being eliminated or driven out to make room for the fake Christians of the Anti-Christ whose kingdom will ultimately be ruled from Jerusalem.
Jaime
August 6th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
So killing people wantonly as in Colorado and Wisconsin is a way of life? What laws are you talking about? They have their laws, but evidently they are not and they don't have to be western laws. If you think that unrest and violence is their way of life, then what can we say about the US and western countries? Then your way of life has been exploiting, invading, plundering and destroying other countries. But how moral this really is eh? However, since they have had such superb manipulative powers (the media), they have come out of this as the heroes, the white knights. And there are foold who believe all of this.
patriothere
August 6th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
I think now the goal of the west is to weaken and destablize syria to soften up Iran for invasion. They are hijacking the organic uprising that has been taking place for the last 17 months. The chinese have gone on record saying that the US was at fault for not having a diplomatic peaceful solution to this conflict. Syria is the linchpin that will start WW3. If they can turn syria into an ally of the west or at the very least steer the government away from Iran, then they could isolate iran even further. This is their plan, if not their plan it will be a result of what is playing out now.
patriothere
August 6th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
I think now the goal of the west is to weaken and destablize syria to soften up Iran for invasion. They are hijacking the organic uprising that has been taking place for the last 17 months. The chinese have gone on record saying that the US was at fault for not having a diplomatic peaceful solution to this conflict. Syria is the linchpin that will start WW3. If they can turn syria into an ally of the west or at the very least steer the government away from Iran, then they could isolate iran even further. This is their plan, if not their plan it will be a result of what is playing out now.
Daryl Davis
August 6th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Is your argument then that we have no law here in America, because we have people who break the law? Our American way of life IS a violent way of life. Are you arguing that the Islamic tribal way of life is not?
What explains the lack of rioting and unrest here in the U.S.? It obviously isn't a lack of blood thirst: But we abide by an impartial body of laws. We submit to the same common authority, a non-religious and a non-tribal one–dividing ourselves instead by our ideas and our preferences.
http://whatdirectdemocracymightbe.wordpress.com/2…
Vojkan
August 6th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Well, Daisy, I second you on that. It is to be noticed that in whichever territory with a Muslim majority the US has messed, the Christian communities have become all but extinct. Though the toll in Muslim lives taken by sectarian violence is absolutely horrible, after all there are so many of them so they're expandable, in the end there are purely Muslim territories. So if they all of a sudden realise that they've been fooled into exterminating themselves, the stage will be set for a true clash of civilisations.
Vojkan
August 6th, 2012 at 3:43 pm
There is another point to be made about why the US supports chaos in Syria. It isn't only about Iran. It is also about Russia and China. A concerted multilateral diplomatic effort to convince Assad to yield power wouldn'have guaranteed that the ties with Russia would have been severed. Whereas ousting Assad by sowing chaos, though it doesn't guarantee to install a client regime, at least guarantees the ouster of Russia from the region. And it sends a message to both Russia and China, as in the case of Libya for the latter, if we don't get there, at least you'll be out too.
R.C.
August 6th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Jeff – one of the finest commentaries I've read on this site in some time.
I couldn't have said it better.
Bravo!
gsealey
August 6th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
There is also a Jewish community of around 28,000 in Iran according to this article: http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/enda… which is interesting in its own right. They are protected under the Iranian constitution and have one seat in the Iranian parliament. Compare this with the situation in Saudi Arabia where according to Wikipedia: "There is virtually no Jewish activity in Saudi Arabia in the beginning of the 21st century. Jewish (as well as Christian and other non-Muslim) religious services are prohibited from being held on Saudi Arabian soil".
gsealey
August 6th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
There is also a Jewish community of around 28,000 in Iran according to this article: http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/enda… which is interesting in its own right. They are protected under the Iranian constitution and have one seat in the Iranian parliament. Compare this with the situation in Saudi Arabia where according to Wikipedia: "There is virtually no Jewish activity in Saudi Arabia in the beginning of the 21st century. Jewish (as well as Christian and other non-Muslim) religious services are prohibited from being held on Saudi Arabian soil".
richard vajs
August 7th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Cannot deny your conclusions. Always amazes me that the present Israelis claim to be direct descendants of the original Hebrews. (A claim swallowed whole by our "Evangelicals"). To me, the natural progression of the natives there was from orthodox Judaism to Christianity to Islam. Jesus probably looked a lot more like Yasser Arafat than he resembled Bibi Netanyahou.
Watson
August 7th, 2012 at 7:09 am
I remember this photo of Jewish women voting in Iran's last election. Yes, it is winter hence the scarves and winter coats. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/photo-of-the-day-sli…
Oswaldwasalefty
August 7th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
One might characterize current Washington Middle East policy as the "Lebanization" of the region outside of the Gulf Cooperation Council. Hence, you get a front group like "Friends of The West And GCC", misnamed the "Friends of Syria".
One the on hand Washington apologists insist that we can't let rebel movements opposed to the U.S. succeed in overthrowing a government by force of arms, like in Indochina in the past or Afghanistan today. This position is taken over a purported concern for "human rights". In the case of Syria some of the defenders of Washington policy, like mead, cheer on the blood bath.
Of course, our position is that Washington shouldn't be destabilizing and wrecking entire nations in the first place. If you really do care about human rights, and aren't just grandstanding on the issue, then opposing all of Washington's destabilization campaigns that wreck entire nations in the name of "human rights" should be the primary concern of human rights campaigners.
Oswaldwasalefty
August 7th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
One might characterize current Washington Middle East policy as the "Lebanization" of the region outside of the Gulf Cooperation Council. Hence, you get a front group like "Friends of The West And GCC", misnamed the "Friends of Syria".
One the on hand Washington apologists insist that we can't let rebel movements opposed to the U.S. succeed in overthrowing a government by force of arms, like in Indochina in the past or Afghanistan today. This position is taken over a purported concern for "human rights". In the case of Syria some of the defenders of Washington policy, like mead, cheer on the blood bath.
Of course, our position is that Washington shouldn't be destabilizing and wrecking entire nations in the first place. If you really do care about human rights, and aren't just grandstanding on the issue, then opposing all of Washington's destabilization campaigns that wreck entire nations in the name of "human rights" should be the primary concern of human rights campaigners.
Roger
August 7th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
If they do, let's hope it's in time to save the poor people of Iran like Neda that have been brutalized for so long.
Oswaldwasalefty
August 8th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
What they did in Libya was cancel the nation's sovereign debts to Russia. Hence, Russia with Syria Russia is digging in and more actively fighting the attempted overthrow of Assad. Of course, the U.S. is always adamant about debt repayment from other nations, no matter how much misery Washington heaped on them. Like Vietnam, which surrendered to Washington in 1993. Laos and Cambodia are still refusing to pay the odious "debts" imposed on them via the U.S. backed puppet regimes during the U.S. War Of Aggression Against Indochina.
Chris Bieber
August 10th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Thanks for yet/still/again another good piece Justin and AWC. Thanks for your timely insights and info.
Mr. Mead is not just another DC talking head…he is a Mouth of Sauron for the Council on Foreign Relations….a Director…. The Globalists they are are bipartisan warmongers who are Hegelians promoting dialectical conflicts to create the global state synthesis they and their minions and agents for the last 90 years have strived for. Read current and the past issues of their house organ Foreign Affairs…..no secrets…no conspiracy theories…but realtime plans for a global state. The upcoming "choice" of GOP or Demo candidates is just that a "choice" of 2 arms of the global statists….great. Dr Paul and the supporters of freedom and independence are going to be proven correct………but….it wont matter. Get Ready for chaos….Thanks Justin Angela Eric et al for your ongoing works from the barricades!!