With the price of gasoline rising, and President Barack Obama’s reelection prospects sinking, delaying a showdown with Iran and ratcheting down regional tensions has become a political necessity for this administration. The question is: can the Israel lobby scuttle revived negotiations?
That the participants came out of the 12-hour Istanbul meeting with reports of progress – and an agreement to meet again, on May 23, in Baghdad – is good news that must be taken in context. It’s been over a year since negotiators met, and the last round ended with both sides engaging in public recriminations, leading to the present impasse. This time around, the Iranians seemed fully engaged, and quite specific about what they are willing to discuss: and while such hot topics as the enrichment issue and increased IAEA access to Iranian nuclear facilities were politely danced around in public, all parties praised the meeting as "constructive."
Most important, from the Iranian perspective, is that the talks are to go forward within the context of the Nonproliferation Treaty, to which Iran is a signatory – and Israel, its chief antagonist, is not. Under the terms of the NPT, Iran has the right to create a peaceful – i.e. energy-oriented – nuclear program, which is what they have been insisting has been their goal all along. An agreement within this framework would underscore the Israelis’ unwillingness to sign the NPT, or to even admit the existence of their substantial nuclear arsenal.
It was only a matter of hours before the Israelis responded with typical peevishness. Meeting with Sen. Joe Lieberman, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu took a swing at Obama and the Europeans:
"My initial impression is that Iran has been given a freebie. It’s got five weeks to continue enrichment without any limitation, any inhibition."
As if Iran could create a nuclear weapon in five weeks time, even if it wanted to do so. This is par for the course for Netanyahu and Israel’s political leaders, whose constant harping on the alleged "existential threat" of an imaginary Iranian nuke has been a single note of hysteria sounded throughout the past few years, like an annoyingly defective car alarm the neighbors have learned to ignore. Time and again they have announced Tehran is "on the verge" of acquiring a nuclear arsenal: in two years, a year, in six months – the ticking of this purported time-bomb has been going on so long it has become just so much background noise. The Israelis have cried wolf once too often.
The Iranians refrained from lecturing Western diplomats in Istanbul, and their chief negotiator reportedly hinted at significant concessions on the key issues of enrichment and IAEA access. For their part, Western negotiators – particularly the Europeans, who are leading the effort – are apparently for the first time taking the Iranian Supreme Leader’s fatwa against nukes seriously. The P-5-plus-1, represented by EU foreign policy honcho and former CND’er Catherine Ashton, opened the meeting with a declaration affirming Iran’s right under the NPT to develop peaceful nuclear applications.
Ashton is hated by the Israelis, and they are likely to open their propaganda campaign against the negotiations by going after her as biased against the perceived interests of the Jewish state. The usual suspects will no doubt attribute darker motives to her stance.
The optimism that greeted the conclusion of the Istanbul talks is encouraging, but a realistic assessment must confront the politics behind the diplomacy. With all-too-likely GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney geared up for a foreign policy offensive, and the Israel firsters in both parties ever on the lookout for deviations from the bipartisan pro-Israel line, the political constraints on a settlement in an election year bode ill for the cause of peace. Not that Romney is proposing anything significantly different than the policy the Obamaites are now pursuing – draconian sanctions, relentless diplomatic and political pressure, and covert efforts at regime change. Yet the President and his advisors are walking a tightrope: the slightest wind in either direction could tip them over into the Scylla of appearing weak or the Charybdis of being provoked into war.
Like the Americans, the Iranians are constrained by politics: they refused to meet in bilateral talks with the US representatives for fear of being perceived back home as kowtowing to Washington. Iranian chief negotiator Saeed Jalili, a former deputy foreign minister, appeared at a news conference in front of a poster of the four assassinated Iranian nuclear scientists. The news the US has trained operatives of an anti-Iranian group on American soil – a group our own State Department has long classified as a terrorist organization – is unlikely to inspire trust: that and continued terrorist attacks carried out by Jundullah in Baluchistan and the Kurdish Pejak guerrillas are US bargaining chips rarely mentioned in Western news reports of the diplomatic back-and-forth: both groups have, at one time or another, received some American assistance, and they are surely getting aid from the Israelis.
While the Israelis aren’t shy about fighting a low-intensity covert war against the regime in Tehran, an all-out frontal attack is out of the question, in spite of their public posturing. The alleged threat of Israeli military action is a phony issue being ratcheted up by both Washington and Tel Aviv purely for dramatic effect: we are supposed to believe the Israelis are straining at the leash, and it’s only the Americans who can rein them in. In reality, Netanyahu hasn’t got the political support at home for a unilateral Israeli strike, and he knows it.
Aside from that, Israeli bombs over Tehran would violate the great unspoken rule of Israeli military and strategic doctrine: always get the Americans to do the fighting and the dying. It worked in Iraq, when Israeli-supplied "intelligence" tricked an all-too-willing-to-be-tricked Bush administration into fighting Israel’s war against Saddam. They hope to pull the same stunt in Iran, and the apparent success of the Istanbul conference is now a major obstacle in their path, albeit far from insurmountable.
Operating on two fronts – in the US, and in the region – the Israelis can do plenty to muck things up before the May 23 session convenes. Syria is at the boiling point, with the civil war spilling over the border into Lebanon and Turkey. By providing "non-lethal" aid to armed opposition groups in Turkey and within the country – and facilitating the provision of arms by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and other interested parties – Washington is already fighting a proxy war against Iran in Syria. If the Israelis can succeed in turning Washington’s cold war against Syria into a hot one, they can introduce fresh complications into what should be a straightforward and focused negotiating process. While Bashar al-Assad looks like he’s firmly in power for the moment, increased diplomatic and political pressure on a staunch Iranian ally could well play into a scenario in which Tehran withdraws out of anger at the prospect of losing its only ally in the region.
Another wild card is the nature and scope of Israel’s covert activities in Iran: assassinations, carried out by the Israeli-supported Mujahideen-e-Khalq (MEK) terrorist outfit, have humiliated the Iranians and provoked an internal security crackdown. Also not to be ruled out is a widening of the scope of the attacks to include high officials as well as scientists. That Israel has tried to pass off its recruiting of Jundullah terrorists operating in Baluchistan as the work of the Americans is the kind of provocation that could not only torpedo the negotiations but actually get us involved in a shooting war with the Iranians – which is precisely the goal of the Israelis.
In the end, the battle for a diplomatic solution to this manufactured "crisis" must be won, not in Istanbul or Baghdad, but in Washington. D.C. Yet the Imperial city is the stronghold of the powerful Israel lobby, which has annexed Congress the way the IDF has effectively annexed the West Bank, and which exerts a decisive influence on the leadership of both parties when it comes to foreign policy.
No matter how much it hurts our real interests to go to war with Iran over Tehran’s nonexistent "weapons of mass destruction," that is precisely what will happen unless war opponents can manage to exercise some political clout on the home front. While polls show Americans overwhelmingly want to avoid such a war, and support the negotiations, that this translates easily into the realm of policy is a naïve assumption: alas, too many people think "democracy" means majority rule rather than "the squeaky wheel gets the worm." When it comes to securing Israel’s interests over and above those of the US, the Lobby has the resources, the will, and an unbroken record of success.
NOTES IN THE MARGIN
I note, with a sigh of resignation, the "news" that Rep. Ron Paul has supposedly come out for moving the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem in recognition of the Israeli claim to that city as its capital. I also note that the only sources for this "news" are 1) Business Insider, a site that has never been friendly to Paul and has consistently engaged in baseless speculation about a "deal" with Romney, and 2) Doug Wead, a Republican operative and advisor to Paul whose secret recording of conversations he had with President George W. Bush – and their subsequent release – earned him near-universal distrust. The Paul campaign has issued no official statement of this new policy, and there is nothing on their web site about it as of Sunday afternoon, when this column is being written. Perhaps Mr. Wead will release his secret recording of the alleged conversation Paul had with evangelicals leaders, where he allegedly made this pledge.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013
- Boycott Israel? – May 9th, 2013





skulz fontaine
April 15th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
"The question is: can the Israel lobby scuttle revived negotiations?"
Short answer would be – oh hell yes. It is galling beyond belief that Israel dictates Amerikan policy. Foreign and/or otherwise.
JBeale
April 15th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
"Ashton is hated by the Israelis, and they are likely to open their propaganda campaign against the negotiations by going after her as biased against the perceived interests of the Jewish state."
Mr. Raimondo:
Israel is not "the Jewish state." Half its population is Christian or Muslim or of another faith other than Judaism.
Cloak And Dagger
April 15th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Justin said: "I note, with a sigh of resignation, the "news" that Rep. Ron Paul has supposedly come out for moving the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem in recognition of the Israeli claim to that city as its capital."
I think this is creative (and deliberate) re-interpretation by Doug Wead for the benefit of the Evangelicals. I am willing to bet that what RP said is more along the lines of: "Look, I don't really care what Israel or any other country does about their capital. They can move it where they want and don't need the permission of the US to do so. Now, the UN may have other ideas about the legality of such a move, but it is not our job to police Israel or any other country. I am not going to waste my time worrying about this – I have a country to save."
Or words to that effect.
Thomas L. Knapp
April 15th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
"The population" and "the state" are two different things.
The Israeli state was envisioned as a Jewish state by Herzl, was designated a Jewish state in the UN partition plan that led to its founding, was proclaimed a Jewish state by its founders (Ben Gurion et al), and has consistently demanded recognition as a Jewish state as a condition of treaties and such since 1948.
George
April 15th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
I agree with pretty much all of Raimondo's points, and I think chances of a deal are excellent. Obama will want to score a deal on the Iranian nuclear program for the general election, and it would be considered a major foreign policy achievement if he did. From the Iranian side, if the Iranians work out a deal, they can turn around and say to the Europeans and the US, now what about Israel's 300 nukes?
As for Ron Paul's apparent support of moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, if it occurred, I doubt he thought it through, or that he meant it as some sort of legal or moral endorsement by the US of the Israel's claims to Jerusalem as the position would seem to imply. (And I believe he would be equally supportive of basing the US embassy to Palestine in Jerusalem if that were possible). Furthermore, in practice, I don't see this happening either. The issue is a hornet's nest and I don't see Dr. Paul causing turmoil in the region and violating international law simply to make some theoretical point.
RickR30
April 16th, 2012 at 12:08 am
All it's going to take is the usual daily calls from bubu to Obama where he treats him like his personal amateur porn star, and voila, the talks are a failure and war is the only option- paid and died for by the American people.
Let's not forget israel's finest weapon in it's dominate-America arsenal: a false flag operation. In the next couple of weeks we are going to see some nasty event attributed to the poor Iranians that prove that they can be considered a serious partner in dialog. Nothing's going to get in the way of the almighty israelis and their dream of murdering and enslaving all the peoples around them.
John_Muhammad
April 16th, 2012 at 12:45 am
I'm still mystified as to why Iran doesn't stand up in one of these 'negotiations' and state clearly for the record they will not discuss any further subject related to nuclear power until Israel is forced to sign on to exactly the same protocols and inspection regimes Iran has ALREADY signed on to. When Israel- presumably- denies possessing any nuclear weapons or having a nuclear weapons program Iran already has a trump card, one that has been played on them so many time: "Prove it".
Yonatan
April 16th, 2012 at 1:06 am
So if it goes ahead, he sees no problems (for the US) should the Israelis wipe the Al Asqa mosque from the map, as the IDF rabbinate would dearly love to do.
. http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/idf-rabbinat…
Cloak And Dagger
April 16th, 2012 at 1:19 am
He may see problems with this, but being a non-interventionist means we butt out of this situation. Frankly, without US support, Israel would be unlikely to venture down this path as they would be creamed by the rest of the world without our protection.
NavyVietnamWarVet
April 16th, 2012 at 5:55 am
The decision to go to war with Iran has long ago been made by its INSANE leader Netanyahu and his lap dog Obama – the 'talks' are a farce.
EVERY member of the Israeli 'lobby' is a TRAITOR to the American people and should be exported to Israel along with nearly every member of the Congress.
John V. Walsh
April 16th, 2012 at 6:01 am
The only thing going on here is whether Obama calculates that an attack on Iran will help or hinder his election campaign.
The long-range policy of the US toward Iran has been set for a long time. Submit to US domination or be destroyed.
So far Iran has succeeded in defying the US in the long term, despite the setack of 2 decades of rule by the Shah. With the growing strength of China and Russia, and the appearance of a more multilateral world, time is on the side of Iran. We should wish it well in its efforts for peace, development and more democracy.
Sam Lowry
April 16th, 2012 at 6:46 am
"The only thing going on here is whether Obama calculates that an attack on Iran will help or hinder his election campaign."
The disturbing thought is this: The invasion of Iraq had public support because people had been manipulated into falsely believing that Saddam Hussein had something to do with the 9/11 attack. Iran will need to be blamed for something disastrous for a war with Iran to work in favor of Obama's campaign. They tried to blame rising gas prices on Iran, but it's not working. I fear some other 'event' will be manufactured.
james
April 16th, 2012 at 7:15 am
There you go again Beale, completely ignoring the issue for a trivial and not valid point. The classical troll you and your likes are.
But let me ask you a question, do the muslims or christians have the right to return to that state?
james
April 16th, 2012 at 7:17 am
Hey, just by butting out of other peoples affairs is a giant leap for Paul. Again, his position is non-intervention.
james
April 16th, 2012 at 7:21 am
John, you have a point there but I believe the Iranians are smarter and much more patient. Given the present situation nobody will listen to them. I think they will definitely do this AFTER an agreement is signed and they cannot be touched. Think about it , it is the reason the israelis do not want an agreement.
JBeale
April 16th, 2012 at 11:48 am
""The population" and "the state" are two different things."
What is the difference?
"The Israeli state was envisioned as a Jwish state by Herzl."
What authority does a Hungarian who never visited Israel and died in 1904 have to define the racial authority in a territory thousands of miles away against the wishes of the native inhabitants?
"It was designated a Jwish state in the UN partition plan that led to its founding."
It was not. Regardless, any such a UN plan had no legal effect.
"Israel was proclaimed a Jwish state by its founders (Ben Gurion et al)."
What authority and legitimacy does a small circle of European Jws have to arrogate Palestine to themselves against the wishes of the majority of its population?
"Israel has consistently demanded recognition as a Jwish state as a condition of treaties and such since 1948."
So what? Of course the Zionist Jws want Israel to be a "Jwish state." That doesn't mean it is, or we have to or should agree with them.
JBeale
April 16th, 2012 at 11:48 am
"But let me ask you a question, do the muslims or christians have the right to return to that state?"
Yes. But I do not see the relevance of the question.
Thomas L. Knapp
April 16th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
JBeale,
The difference between a state and a population is precisely the same difference as the difference between a street gang and a population.
A population is a group of people who live in an area. A state or a street gang is an organization that claims to be in charge of that population and that area.
Israel is and always has been a Jewish state. That's a fact, and it will remain a fact whether you like it or not.
JBeale
April 16th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
"Israel is and always has been a Jwish state."
Untrue. More than half the population isn't even Jwish. You have to look at the nature of the country. Not Jwish.
"The difference between a state and a population is precisely the same difference as the difference between a street gang."
So you are equating the state with a street gang? What legitimacy does a street gang have?
By the way, Israel is a democracy, in other words, the government is of the people and by the people. Half the people aren't even Jwish. Therefore the government is not Jwish.
Thomas L. Knapp
April 16th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
JBeale,
Which part of "a state and a population are not the same thing" did you not get the first two times?
If a Little League bus pulls up in front of McDonald's, does McDonald's cease to be a restaurant and become a baseball team as soon as there are more baseball players than fry cooks inside?
"So you are equating the state with a street gang? What legitimacy does a street gang have?"
Precisely.
San Fernando Curt
April 16th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
The re-election of Obama is a foregone conclusion, since there is no alternative from the Right. Mitt Romney? The guy who stood in front of a foreclosed house this year and began his "I'm with you" soundbite by saying, "Bankers aren't the bad guys." Ding! You're done, Mitt. Outta here. Few Americans are so stupid to believe "less regulation, cut taxes (for the one percent)" is anything more than routine Republican policy of "rich get richer, poor get chilled". The wealthiest Americans will have more resources to send jobs overseas even faster; foreign slave labor does wonders for cutting overhead. And we know there will be no attack on Iran this year. gas prices are falling. If speculators are unloading their petro, the 'tensions' are relaxing. We can take it to… uh… the bank.
Obama must tiptoe between the Israel Lobby's push for war and his own political future – which will be toast if he launches another war. Besides, I don't think the Lobby wants an Israeli attack – and you can bet they have heft in Tel Aviv. Fallout from an "Iran fry" might just wake up Americans to our parasitic-twin relationship. Don't want that. Mushrooms, night blooms, dark, etc.
dink
April 16th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
There is an ancient saying that goes "before you have an enemy you must first call it by its name." Its proper name is of importance.
The greatest enemy is the "lack of political sovereignty". Israel may be/is other people's enemy, not the United States by necessity. When the rubber hits the road, the United States must have a foreign policy in its interest EXCLUSIVELY. (Not Obama's power, nor Cheney's or others. Thank you, Mr Raimondo and antiwar.com)
The right wing of Israel; the Likud party of Israel has been adversaries to certain governments of the United States. They have defeated some administrations. There is a big history lesson too big for this comment. Large segments of AIPAC are "agents of a foreign government". But not all of it, that is why through this muddiness makes deception continue. . There are nuances. But there is no nuiance to the DANGER of weakened sovereignty. The neoconservatives are an enemy because they are the conduit for weakened sovereignty and ruin.
The Christian Zionists have muddied the waters. History is full of religious movements that have been total flops. It is not wise to get entangled in these movements. Foolish wars are often fought for prestige and other such nationalistic fallacies. Nations as mighty as the United States have fallen.
We risk a loss of direction/power by getting too entrenched in foreign entanglements like George Washington noted. When former AIPAC supporters are not allowed freedom of political movement because of this defacto Totalitarian Monolith, we should be on guard. Lack of definition is a political minefield. If you believe this incorrect, please clarify.
JBeale
April 16th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Mr. Knapp:
I do not doubt that you can demonstrate the existence of a restaurant by pointing out to me a McDonald's. But where exactly is this Jwish state? What does it look like? Can you point it out to me? When I look at a map of Palestine, I see only human beings and a topography. Where is the Jwish state part?
This notion you have of a Jwish state seems to exist only as a figment of your imagination. Show me otherwise.
Nelson_2008
April 16th, 2012 at 5:12 pm
The thing is, you cannot take anything the "U.S. government" says or does at face value. Our Masters do NOTHING in good faith. They're not sitting in their think tanks all day playing tiddlywinks; rather, they're plotting treachery. The whole "talks" thing is political theater. With an election coming up, Obama is made to look like an independent actor, not afraid to do something seemingly "reasonable", in apparent defiance of his boss, Netanyahu. And while the Obama administration publicly engages in the talks with Iran, talks that may seem to be "making progress", at the same time they are very likely planning an escalation of aggression against Syria, hoping to start a war which will then draw Iran in at some point.
izi
April 16th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Here is the problem with your argument;
1)Israel has no set boarders; even Izrael doesn’t know where their boarders are. You cannot claim a Jewish state where half of their population is non-Jewish without set boarders.
2)Izrael has no constitution to protect the non-Jews. Without a document to protect the other half there is no guarantee of the rights of the non-Jews. Even today we see how the non-Jews are discriminated on every turn, imagine if it was legalized what would happen.
Thomas L. Knapp
April 16th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Izi,
Once again, the state is not the population. It's the street gang that terrorizes/extorts/oppresses the population.
THE STATE of Israel is, by its own claim, a Jewish state. I'm not saying that to defend it, I'm saying it because it is a simple undeniable fact.
richard vajs
April 17th, 2012 at 4:58 am
I agree – if one looks at the pre-war mobilization going on – the transfer of ships to the Mid East, the freeing up of troops previously bogged down in Iraq, and the increase of military spending (when it should be being slashed) , I would say that the die is cast and we are the ones just "playing for time" not the Iranians.
Of course, the Lobby are traitors, but they consider themselves dedicated patriots the land of their allegiance ( Israel). And they will eventually go to where their hearts are – after America is bled dry on their behalf.
JBeale
April 17th, 2012 at 5:11 am
So the State of Israel is a group of people, just not all of the people? That would explain how it can make a "claim," since only people make claims. Would this be your answer to my question about what a state looks like?
Thomas L. Knapp
April 17th, 2012 at 6:22 am
Yes, the state is a group of people. It's an organization.
Some states claim to be co-extensive with their populations ("democratic," "pluralistic," etc.), and some are more actually so than others, but the state is a ultimatlely a discrete entity with its own interests separate from the interests of the populace, and not necessarily reflective of that populace's diversity.
For example, prior to the end of apartheid, the South African state was definitely "white" in character — all power/authority figures in it were white and it was explicitly set up to guard what it held to be the interests of whites — even though most of the population it ruled was black.
james
April 17th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
YES, then I can demonstrably add LIAR to your qualities.
Nathan
April 18th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Thomas,
How in heaven could I have missed this fantastic article is beyond me. Someone just brought it to my attention. Lucky you, I could have presented a crushing rebuttle to your Jewish state theory. Maybe next time.
Thomas L. Knapp
April 18th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Nathan, why not now?