The ‘Cairo 19′ Got What They Deserve
Regime-changers up against the wall in Egypt
Walking along a Moscow street, in
2006, a man picks up a rock and carries it away: nothing about that is suspicious
in itself, now is it? Except that the rock was fake, a hollowed out simulation
that contained electronic equipment: it was the equivalent of a “drop box” in
which Russian agents of British intelligence were able to download information
from a hand-held device – likely a mobile phone — and provide it to their British
handlers operating out of Her Majesty’s Embassy. One of the individuals secretly
filmed by the Russian security bureau retrieving messages was the British official
responsible for making disbursements to Russian “human rights” organizations.
When the Russians examined the contents of the fake rock, they found it contained
information on illegal payments made to Russian individuals working for “human
rights” NGOs. Although the Brits denied
it at the time, Jonathan Powell, a former chief of staff to British Prime
Minister Tony Blair, admitted
to the scheme in a recent four-part BBC series on Putin’s Russia.
The admission came at an inconvenient time: during Russia’s tumultuous presidential
election, in which the Russian opposition was accusing Vladimir Putin of stealing
the vote, and Putin, in turn, was characterizing the opposition as paid
tools of Washington. The Americans did nothing to disabuse Russians of this
charge: indeed, when the new US Ambassador to the Kremlin, Michael McFaul, arrived
in Moscow, he met with leaders of the Russian opposition on his second
day in town. As Eric Kraus, a Moscow-based fund manager, put
it:
“One should first ask what the reaction would have been in the United States if the British ambassador to Washington began his mandate by throwing an open house for ‘Occupy Wall Street’ – it would have been considered a hostile act. Why is Russia any different? Russia is a sovereign state, not a protectorate, and the job of any ambassador is to facilitate state-to-state relations, not to become a player in domestic politics.”
But of course the US is indeed involved in the domestic politics of practically
every nation on earth, and it even has an official agency in charge of such
meddling. The National Endowment
for Democracy (NED) is a “public-private” institution that receives direct
grants of US tax dollars, which it then funnels abroad via its four
main constituent parts: the National Democratic Institute (NDI), affiliated
with the Democratic party, the International Republican Institute (IRI), a division
of the GOP, the American Center for International Labor Solidarity (ACILS),
sponsored and partially funded by the AFL-CIO, and the Center for International
Private Enterprise, affiliated with the US Chamber of Commerce. Founded in 1984,
NED played a key
role in undermining the Nicaraguan government at a time when the US government
was illegally funding the so-called “contras,”
who were carrying out a terrorist campaign against the authorities in Managua.
In 1985, it was revealed the NED
had been financing two groups in France, of all places: the National Inter-University
Union (UNI), and Force Ouvriere (FO), a labor organization. UNI was an offshoot
of the Service for Civic Action, an extremist right-wing terrorist group that
had killed several people in the south of France and engaged in drug smuggling.
UNI scored $575,000 from NED. FO was in a pitched battle with left-wing unions
for supremacy in the French labor movement, and the US funding via NED – to
the tune of $830,000 – was seen as an attempt to undermine Francois Mitterand’s
socialist government.
In 1989, when Nicaragua’s Sandinista government was being challenged by the
opposition — led by newspaper publisher Violeta Chamorro, and her United Nicaraguan
Opposition (UNO) — Congress passed a $9
million appropriation for the NED to get involved in the Nicaraguan election.
It passed with one restriction, however: none of the money was to be used to
help one particular party. In reality, however, almost all the funding went
to the UNO. In tandem with the flood of millions of dollars into the opposition,
the US unleashed the contras, inflicting unprecedented
violence on civilians and wrecking the economy.
The Endowment has been a vital instrument in the deployment of “soft power”
to further US interests, acting as a conduit for funding the “color
revolutions” that were sparked by US-funded activists in Serbia, Ukraine,
Georgia, and the former Soviet republics of Central Asia. It is, in short, a
weapon in the US arsenal designed to effect “regime change” in countries deemed
insufficiently enthusiastic about becoming – or staying – a US protectorate.
Although the “Arab Spring” looks to have taken the US by surprise, Washington
moved quickly – via the NED and USAID – to coopt the movement. It appears, though,
that the Egyptian government – which has just elected a majority Muslim
Brotherhood parliament – is having none of it: Cairo recently put NED activists,
including the son of the US Secretary of Transportation, on a “no fly” list, and announced
it will prosecute a number of individuals, including 19 Americans, for engaging
in illegal activities. Washington is outraged, and its amen corner is already
mobilizing in support of the “Cairo
19.”
Egypt, like the US, has strict
controls on foreign interference in its internal politics: foreign-funded
organizations must register with the government, and give a complete accounting
of their activities. The US has even stricter controls: foreign contributions
to electoral activities on American soil are forbidden by US law, and,
in addition, groups receiving funding from foreign governments must register
as foreign agents. The penalty
for violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) is five years in prison
and a $10,000 fine – roughly equivalent (except for the fine) to the penalty
faced by the “Cairo 19.”
Neither IRI nor NDI ever registered with the authorities in Egypt: the
claim is that they didn’t do so because “the laws required licenses that
were almost never granted” and “exerted government control over foreign contributions.”
Of course, the New York Times reporter who wrote this neglected to
inform his readers that the US absolutely bans any foreign intervention in the
electoral process on its own soil. That’s the Americans’ signature
stance in the world: one standard for me, and another for thee….
It’s hard to believe anyone with the least bit of objectivity would blame the
Egyptians for reacting to interference in their politics the way they have,
but Harper’s Scott Horton has stepped into the breach with a
polemic that is as unconvincing as it is arrogant.
Horton blames the Muslim Brotherhood for “coddling the military,” and seeking to cement its power by refusing to investigate corruption in the barracks. He writes that the Brotherhood’s pact with the military brought on the prosecution:
“Under attack are the National Democratic Institute and the International Republican Institute — two venerable, congressionally funded organizations linked to America’s two political parties, each with a solid record of accomplishment in the global struggle for democracy.”
From funding the French extreme right to overthrowing the Sandinistas by means of terrorism – that’s a “solid record of accomplishment,” alright, except it has nothing to do with “the global struggle for democracy” and everything to do with advancing Washington’s global ambitions. For Horton, naturally, there is no difference between these two goals – but the inhabitants of the countries whose politics we are meddling in may see it differently.
While speculating the Egyptians could actually “believe that organizations dedicated to promoting democracy are actually working to overthrow the Egyptian state in the interests of some foreign power,” he dismisses this out of hand because “placing the blame for domestic problems on the unseen hand of a foreign foe is an ancient and sometimes effective strategy for a government in extremis.”
Given the NED’s long
record of manipulating the internal politics of nations we’ve targeted for
“regime change,” is it really all that unreasonable for the Egyptians to suspect
something is amiss? Oh, but no, according to Horton:
“Whether they occur in Egypt, Turkey, Russia, Hungary, or Israel, attacks on NGOs, especially those focused on democracy advocacy and human rights, are the hallmark of illiberalism. In Egypt, they demonstrate how the revolution has run off course. And they show the country’s deep-seated suspicion of the United States. The Obama Administration is right to treat these developments with alarm. So should the Egyptians still protesting at Tahrir Square.”
If it’s “illiberal” to resent and oppose foreign interference in domestic politics, then one looks forward to Horton’s call for the abolition of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, and similar legislation.
Apart from that, however, a far more important point is Horton’s definition
of illiberalism as a refusal to allow such interference: implicit here is the
idea that the
US government is the agency of a “liberal” ideology which it is duty bound
to export abroad. Washington, in this view, is the embodiment
of “liberalism,” just as Moscow embodied Leninism in the cold war era. To oppose
the activities of the NED and its international affiliates is “illiberal” in
the same sense opposing Communist subversion in, say, the Americas, was considered
“reactionary” by the Kremlin and its American apologists. The NED is the American
version of the old Third International: the obedient instrument of US foreign
policy. To question its right to intervene anywhere is to align oneself with
the forces of darkness.
Horton’s full-throated defense of the “Cairo 19,” whom he portrays as the defenders of “democracy” and secularism in Egypt, drops the context in which the NED and the US government are operating in the region. He forgets or doesn’t care to remember an awful lot.
In response to the 9/11 attacks, the US embarked on a military and political
campaign to “transform” the “swamp” of the Muslim world, starting in Afghanistan
and Iraq, and ending in Iran.
On the occasion of the NED’s twentieth anniversary, President George W. Bush
proclaimed the US was launching a “global
democratic revolution” – and there was no doubt its main target was the
Middle East. Gen. Wesley Clark related in an
interview with Amy Goodman how, ten days after 9/11, a top General revealed
to him how the decision to invade Iraq was made bereft of any link to al-Qaeda.
Coming back to his informant a few weeks later, Clark said:
“’Are we still going to war with Iraq?’ And the General said ‘Oh, its worse than that.’ He reached over on his desk and picked up a piece of paper. He said, ‘I just got this … from upstairs from the Secretary of Defense’s office today. This is a memo that describes how we are going to take out 7 countries in 5 years. Starting with Iraq, then Syria and Lebanon. Then Libya, Somalia and Sudan. Then finishing off Iran.’”
It’s taken them more than five years, but clearly they’ve made considerable
progress so far: Iraq is in
the bag, so is Libya,
and Sudan has been successfully split
in two. As for Somalia,
it’s the latest “front” in our endless “war on terrorism,” and we’re gearing
up for the Big One: Iran.
Once Tehran falls, can Lebanon be far behind?
Egypt figures prominently in all this: it is “the prize,” as neocon theoretician and former LaRouchie Laurent Murawiec put it in an infamous presentation to the Defense Policy Board, in which he and his fellow neocons pushed not only the invasion of Iraq but also a US takeover of the Saudi oil fields and – eventually — “regime change” in Egypt. As Murawiec put it in his remarks to the assembled policymakers, including Richard Perle, Hosni Mubarak’s Egypt – “the fulcrum of the Arab world” — had become “a Malthusian basket case” due to the dictator’s mismanagement:
“The result is an explosive mix. Traditional Moslems and modernist Arabs have been marginalized, hounded out of the public scene, while the virulent press endlessly incites hatred and violence against Israel and the U.S. Fifteen of the nineteen hijackers of 9/11 were Saudis, the remainder were Egyptians.
“… Why not let Mubarak crack down on the Islamists once we have terminated their power elsewhere, and benightedly allow him to stay in power without policies being changed—isn’t he our friend after all? That would be a sure recipe for disaster. The pivot of the Arab world is the most important one to transform in depth. Iraq may be described as the tactical pivot, the point of entry; Saudi Arabia as the strategic pivot; but Egypt, with its mass, its history, its prestige and its potential, is where the future of the Arab world will be decided. Egypt, then, in the new Middle Eastern environment created by our war, can start being reshaped.
“From our standpoint, though, Egypt has to come up at a later stage of the strategic course presented here: it cannot and should not be tackled prior to the fall of Saddam, the cracking of Syria and Hezbollah, and the abasement of the Saudis. It will become possible to tackle the essential issue—that of a useless, dysfunctional tyranny—once the above have been successfully carried out.”
Given the course of our rampage across much of the Middle East to date, is
it any wonder Egyptians are suspicious that their turn has come? To add insult
to injury, we’re now threatening
to withhold the substantial amount we send over there in “foreign aid,”
including
military assistance. The Egyptians have stuck to their guns, however, and
insist they will go through with the prosecution, perhaps because, as this
New York Times piece on the controversy opined: “But for Washington,
revoking the aid would risk severing the tie that for three decades has bound
the United States, Egypt and Israel in an uneasy alliance that is the cornerstone
of the American-backed regional order.”
That “cornerstone” is now cracked beyond repair, and the US is frantically trying to cement it together: that the NED’s Egyptian operation is being wielded in pursuit of that goal is undeniable. Whether these same US-funded “activists” would be utilized to effect regime-change is a question the Egyptians have a right to ask.
Horton makes his appeal to the protesters of Tahrir Square, and yet those same protesters, as much as many are for democracy, secularism, and modernity, are also fiercely nationalistic – and no friends of our “cornerstone” foreign policy in the region.
Again and again, US policymakers and commentators have underestimated – and
misunderstood – the powerful wave of protest that has toppled regimes from Tunisia
to Yemen. It isn’t an ideological drive for “democracy,” as such, or one motivated
by the economic downturn, although these factors are surely present: what the
“Arab Spring” represents is an upsurge of radical
nationalism, similar to the pan-Arabism unleashed by Gamal Abdel Nasser
in the Egyptian revolution
of 1952. In each and every instance, the target of the crowds in the streets
has been a regime sporting the West’s imprimatur. Even
Gadhafi had finally made his peace with those he once denounced as “imperialists,”
and gained a degree of legitimacy in Western circles.
The Arab world has essentially been under occupation by the West since the
fall of the Ottomans in the aftermath of World War I. The “anti-colonial” revolutions
of the 1950s and 1960s ended in the consolidation of sclerotic regimes that
oppressed their own people and – as the cold war petered out – wound up in the
Western orbit. Indeed, as Mubarak
and Gadhafi
prepared their sons to succeed them, these regimes became indistinguishable
from the monarchies traditionally backed by Washington and London.
US attempts to hijack and manipulate this nationalist tidal wave, beside being
futile, are likely to result in a serious case of “blowback”
– unintended and highly unfortunate consequences that will reduce our influence
and in the region and provoke an anti-American backlash. We are, in short, playing
with fire – and no one should be surprised that, in Egypt and elsewhere, we
are being burned.
By the way, before we elevate Sam Lahood, son of US Labor Secretary and former GOP congressman Ray Lahood, to the status of a martyr for “democracy” and “liberalism,” let’s note that his former gig was serving as a censor for the US Occupation Authority in Iraq. Putting him and his fellow “democracy-promoters” on trial is the Egyptians’ way of ensuring he never takes up similar duties in Egypt.
NOTES IN THE MARGIN
Bad news: it looks like Judge Andrew Napolitano’s “Freedom Watch” – one of the most popular programs on Fox Business News – has been axed by Roger Ailes and his neocon friends. Fox Business has some other libertarian and quasi-libertarian commentators, but — unlike the Judge — they rarely bring up foreign policy from a non-interventionist perspective. Napolitano’s radical libertarianism, which owes more to Murray Rothbard and Ludwig von Mises than to the US Chamber of Commerce, was apparently too much for Ailes to put up with, and the final straw was no doubt the Judge’s unbridled enthusiasm for Ron Paul.
There is reportedly an effort among some Republican members of Congress to restore the program, and I have no doubt libertarians will be writing and calling Fox to protest the decision. You can call, email, or fax:
Irena Briganti, Senior Vice President
Media Relations
Phone: 212-301-3608
Fax: 212-819-0816
E-Mail: irena.briganti@foxnews.com
However, I wouldn’t get my hopes up if I were you. The Judge violated the first commandment of Fox News commentators, which is to always and in every instance support the War Party to the hilt. The Judge not only refused, he denounced the warmongers at every turn. I’m not surprised he’s out, but that doesn’t detract at all from my disappointment and anger.
As much as I like Neil Cavuto and John Stossel, I’ll never watch Fox Business News again – and neither should you.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Antiwar.com vs. the FBI – May 21st, 2013
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013





niqnaq
February 9th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
The weakest assumption here is this:
It would be better to at least consider the many websites which analyse the so-called "Arab Spring" in terms comparable to the "Color Revolutions" of Eastern Europe, that is, as having been orchestrated from the start by western "Regime Change Inc"-type outfits. The question would then become: are Tantawi and the MBs just grandstanding, in order to appear anti-American in the eyes of the Egyptian people, and thus gain some credibility? Could this entire exercise just be a PR stunt?
jlhodges
February 9th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
"The American pro-democracy groups were founded in the 1980s in part to take the place of what had been decades of covert Central Intelligence Agency involvement in the political affairs of other countries." NYTimes, 2/6/2012
"The IRI and NDI are core grantees of the National Endowment for Democracy, an organization that conducts activities 'much of [which]' the 'CIA used to fund covertly', as the Washington Post reported when the Endowment was being created in the early 1980s." The Guadian (UK) 1/31/2012.
This Wall Street Journal online February 8, 2012. : "The targeted Americans work for four NGOs, all of which have close connections to Capitol Hill and operate almost entirely on congressional financing."
Question: How much of an organization's funding can be from the government and still be called an "NGO"?
maidhc
February 10th, 2012 at 12:36 am
“Although the ‘Arab Spring’ looks to have taken the US by surprise, Washington moved quickly – via the NED and USAID – to coopt the movement.”
It must have been preemptive co-option. According to a March 13, 2011 AP report entitled “US training quietly nurtured young Arab democrats”:
“National Endowment money, $100-million-plus a year, is at work in more than 90 countries worldwide. But it’s the USAID grants, from an $800 million budget for developing ‘political competition’ and ‘civil society’ in 67 nations, that have proved vital to activists in a half-dozen Arab lands, from Morocco to Yemen. Some $104 million was requested for them in the proposed 2011 budget.”
maidhc
February 10th, 2012 at 12:39 am
An April 14, 2011 article in the New York Times entitled “U.S. Groups Helped Nurture Arab Uprisings” reported:
“A number of the groups and individuals directly involved in the revolts and reforms sweeping the region, including the April 6 Youth Movement in Egypt, the Bahrain Center for Human Rights and grass-roots activists like Entsar Qadhi, a youth leader in Yemen, received training and financing from groups like the International Republican Institute, the National Democratic Institute and Freedom House, a nonprofit human rights organization based in Washington, according to interviews in recent weeks and American diplomatic cables obtained by WikiLeaks.”
maidhc
February 10th, 2012 at 12:56 am
And an April 8, 2011 AFP report entitled “US trains activists to evade security forces” doesn’t exactly leave one with the impression that the “Arab Spring” took Washington by surprise:
“The US government, Posner said, has budgeted $50 million in the last two years to develop new technologies to help activists protect themselves from arrest and prosecution by authoritarian governments. And it has organized training sessions for 5,000 activists in different parts of the world. A session held in the Middle East about six weeks ago gathered activists from Tunisia, Egypt, Syria and Lebanon who returned to their countries with the aim of training their colleagues there. ‘They went back and there's a ripple effect,’ Posner said.”
Wolfgang9
February 10th, 2012 at 1:51 am
Justin, great article I forwarded it to friends!
The German equivalent of the NED is the KAS (Konrad Adenauer Stiftung) and in some ways also the so-called Friedrich-Ebert Stiftung.
The KAS even bailed out one of their speakers from prison in Brasilia (obviously with tax payers money) who was indicted there for child pornography (he already had a history of that in Germany) and in addition he spied for the Stasi in East Germany (he is my Stasi Files listed). IMHO, the KAS is at least as dirty as the NED.
W9
George Gould
February 10th, 2012 at 4:46 am
Justin. Minor point: Ray LaHood is Secretary of Transportation, not Labor.
liberal
February 10th, 2012 at 6:01 am
Great column, especially on the history of those NGOs. I remember that stuff but haven't had the time to look it up again.
Ike_Hall
February 10th, 2012 at 6:32 am
I guess if an NGO isn't funded by the resident powers-that-be, they'll call themselves an NGO.
Phil Giraldi
February 10th, 2012 at 6:55 am
Great article! Conservative "regime change" and liberal "humanitarian interventionism" are alive and well in Washington. NED employees should rightly be arrested wherever they surface lest they bring us reprises of their activity in the pastel revolutions in Eastern Europe. They are the new version of the old CIA, training Syrians and Iranians to bring down their respective governments. Going after the Russians is the height of folly and serves no concievable US national interest.
MvGuy
February 10th, 2012 at 8:05 am
The better "we" play the regime change game "there", the better "we" can learn workable defense to play ihere against any threats to "OUR" Neocon, oil, corporatist puppet gov. here….. A win, win.. Right..?? Any doubt ask Newt, the 15 Million Dollar Neocon's Man……
R.C.
February 10th, 2012 at 11:34 am
…And you can be sure that no matter what happens in the Russian election next month, that the "opposition" will claim it was "stolen." Indeed, they're already claiming this and the election is still weeks away!? Putin already has such a huge lead in the polls (some 30 points over the 2nd runner up), that it would make no sense for him to "rig" anything with such a huge lead. No doubt, the western media will scream 'stolen" even before the polls close, and outfits such as CNN ,AP, Fox, etc, will claim it as fact without showing us any early polling data BEFORE people actually went to vote to see if it matches the actual results.
smithy
February 10th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Can you imagine just what kind of foreign influence in American affairs that is obviously permitted in our country?
If we are so involved in foreign interference in politics of other countries we must assume that our congress is not "our" congress. It is the congress of some other country.
dink
February 10th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
A failure to adapt to new circumstances or, I ask, Are some of them getting scape goated because its a revolution?
I think that too many Americans in a foreign land forget what its like to live overseas in a foreign country: "you experience a permanent sense of unease. You adapt, you learn to cope, you make what you hope are friends. But you never forget that you are a stranger in unknown territory, and that you are vulnerable." as a reviewer of a movie that communicates that in , 'The Year of Living Dangerously'
I think Mr Raimondo had one of the best analysis' of why not to intervene in the Libya war. The Muslim brotherhood is not Iran. They are disciplined from all the years of being marginalized politically.
The way I see it, the Egyptian military is trying to stay in good graces with its people, if it can look good by arresting a few foreigners, it gives itself some relief.
Before the Egyptian elections did any one read the stories in the mainstream press? Some writers where doing a good job explaining that Egypt was a fixed system, a type of one party state.
Mubarak was the Haves and anyone else where going to be the have-nots.
Some writers where bending over backwards to present Mubarak's chronism as alright, basically cause of the Camp David Accords. I personally knew this would not last. Australian Journeyman Pictures has several good reports on the current Egyptian situation. Its basically two factions. The youth protesters and the middle age Islamists trying to calm the youth protesters down cause they are about to get power. Egypt's turmoil is not going away – Islam or no-Islam. There is a real generational divide.
Bianca
February 10th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
No, it is not. What is entirely missing in the fog of disinformation is the following. Mubarak has over the years degraded military, while talking of getting billions FOR military. Where did the billions go, is another question. Some of it — guaranteed — went into crafting multiple internal security forces that were loyal to Mubarak and his elite. The close relationship with US military services is to insure that the gradual degradation was verifyable. Info is available on the sorry state of Egypt's military. But the image had to be created that military IS Mubarak, and that they are getting priviledges as a result. If you call priviledges being allowed to run some ancient industrial plants, and get some money out of them — than this is what they got. The bottom line is, Mubarak ouster is really a military coup backed up by the public. The newly elected Parliament will take over once the military and the new majority firm up the details of constitutional interpretation, as this is the last hurdle that needs to be carefully, legally understood to insure transition of power. This is not a trifling matter, as some may think.
Valerianus
February 10th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
The perplexity of Washington's initial response to the Egyptian uprising points very strongly to it actually having started as the result of popular discontent. The lack of direction of the protesters, who clearly had no agenda other than to get some sort of change, severely contrasts with the smoothly programmatic nature of the color revolutions. However, as I have said before, the FedGov doesn't stay clueless for very long, and it obviously came up with a contingency plan in short order and has tried to implement it. But operations planned in a hurry have a tendency too fail for lack of planning and missteps in implementation. The NED organizations were clearly involved and almost certainly carried out their tasks with an arrogance that attracted the attention of the Egyptian regime. To arrest politically well-connected US persons is to play with fire, for I can assure you that the FedGov elite does not willingly submit to being placed in such situations, even for a PR stunt. Nor does it willingly allow its subversive activities to be publicized. If the FedGov wanted a PR stunt, they'd have recruited a few recent college graduates, desperate for work, as patsies to be caught.
Bianca
February 10th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Yes, those were funded all along. These groups have many other purposes. Most often they are used to shake up a regime that gets to big for their britches, speak out of turn, and forget the "script'. When they stray from the straight and narrow prescribed for them by the Washington script, they get some spanking by various NGOs. And in case of a very obedient regime that gets too unpopular with the masses, NGOs come out in force to support "popular' unhappiness, and in a Hollywood style happy ending, a new dawn arrives with a new, popular and ever so obedient "opposition" taking place. But what happens when everything gets out of whack, and the narrative is not working? When the NGOs go full out supporting the popular revolt, but the resulting transitional authority cannot be breached nor coopted? Then it will be back to the streets against the transitional authority — whoever they may be — until a more malleable team is in place.
Valerianus
February 10th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
The foreign influence to which you refer is "domesticated" by dual citizenship.
Bianca
February 10th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
What is shocking here? The activists are multi-functional entities, and they come in all shapes, sizes, ideologies. In France, funded were both ultra-right and ultra-left varieties to undermine the Mitterand's center. At present in Russia supported are ultra-liberals and ultra-nationalists, and everything in between. For as long as they have one mantra — undermine the system, cause chaos, profit from it. What else is new? Divide et impera at its best and with the use of the latest technology.
Justin Raimondo
February 10th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Corrected. Thanks for pointing out the error.
John_Muhammad
February 10th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
I had to stifle a laugh at this quote:
“placing the blame for domestic problems on the unseen hand of a foreign foe is an ancient and sometimes effective strategy for a government in extremis.”
Let's see….. Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Lebanon, Palestine, Libya, Nigeria, the collective membership of Al-Qaeda and the Taliban and Boko Haram and whoever else happens to be the Enemy Du Jour. I would sleep better at night if I wasn't so terrified that those Superman clones in Boko Haram might invade the US at any given time and immediately impose shari'a law on all of us.
I can't decide which is worse- being ignorant and just accepting whatever the official story is at any given minute, or actually having a clue as to what's going on but no one believes you when you try to tell them.
Bob
February 10th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Egypt was a loyal client state to the US and Israel. How would it make sence for them to overthrow its government and risk the possibility that an Egyptian-run government would take it's place? Even the new military dictatorship is less pro-Israel that Mubarak was. When it goes down, will the Muslim Brotherhood successor government be more pro-Israel than the military government is?
Like with New Coke, sometimes things just screw up hardcore without any conspiracy required.
niqnaq
February 10th, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Mubarak was insisting that his son would succeed him, which the US regarded as not a good idea. The US would logically prefer a military junta, on the assumption that it is dependent on US military aid and thus a completely controllable puppet. As for the MBs, everywhere in the region, you hear the US and Israel saying, "Oh, gee whiz, maybe we're better with the devil we know than those terrible MBs," but I see this as camouflage, like Br'er Rabbit saying "Please don't throw me in the briar patch." The MBs have always been a pawn of the west, since their creation, and the fact that they are good at making radical noises is part of their usefulness. Right now, Hamas is quietly realigning itself with the Sauds and Qataris, as you would expect, because ultimately all MB funding comes via the Sauds and Qataris. Ismail Haniyeh is in Tehran listening to the mullahs preach about the Lib of Pal, but I think this also is just a pose on his part. In Gaza itself, Hamas is reported (by the zio press) to have cracked down on whatever tiny Shi'ite groupuscules exist.
maidhc
February 11th, 2012 at 4:27 am
Nothing shocking at all. I posted it because it challenges Raimondo's thesis that Washington was taken by surprise by the NED-trained protestors.
Sam
February 11th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
The solution is social justice and a more just society..
Andrewp111
February 12th, 2012 at 8:35 am
Egypt is a protectorate of the US. They get a lot of aid money. They will probably go ahead with the prosecutions publicly, and then make a deal in the dead of night. Those 19 will simply turn up in the USA unexpectedly after they are sentenced to death in Egypt, and no public announcements will be made.
Of course, if Egypt's new government cancels the peace treaty, all bets are off. The aid money will disappear overnight, and Egypt's only remaining leverage will be those 19.
Bob
February 12th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
For some reason you aren't allowed to question the loyalty of people who can't even decide what country they are a citizen of..