‘Mr. Y’ and the Decline of the American Empire
Pentagon insiders challenge the militarist paradigm
While the rest of the "news" media was busy covering the Great Birth Certificate Drama, Rachel Maddow spared her audience yet another hour of having to watch that walking hairpiece make a fool of himself (and us), and instead focused on the real news: a US-trained Afghan pilot had turned on his trainers and killed 9 Americans – the biggest single casualty report since 2005. Not only did Rachel report this story, she also wondered aloud at its implications – the doubtful feasibility of a policy that assumes the Afghans will "stand up" as we "stand down – and wryly noted how the Obama White House is even utilizing the same phraseology we all remember from the Bush years.
My ears perked up. Is someone who often seems like a dyed-in-the-wool Obama cultist and partisan hack finally rebelling against the Great and Glorious Leader? Well, maybe, maybe not: in any case, she proceeded to give a platform to Prof. Andrew Bacevich, author of The New American Militarism: How Americans Are Seduced by War, and, most recently, Washington Rules: America’s Path to Permanent War. Bacevich is a retired US Army colonel who graduated from West Point, fought in Vietnam, and now teaches at Boston University: he lost a son in Iraq and has become an eloquent conservative critic of our foreign policy of global intervention.
Bacevich spent a good deal of his time talking about an article recently released by the Wilson Center, "A National Strategic Narrative," [.pdf] signed by "Mr. Y." He started out by saying that the publication of the article is important less for the actual content of the piece and more because of who wrote it – "Mr. Y" is a pseudonym for U.S. Navy Captain Wayne Porter and U.S. Marine Corps Colonel Mark Mykleby, who both work for the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the Pentagon. As he describes it, "What they are saying is our approach to national security policy has been excessively militarized, we really need to pay more attention to what goes on inside the country."
Bacevich went on to note that these two officers are not alone. Rather than being resistant to change – that is, to a substantial cut in our misnamed "defense" budget, and the demilitarization of our foreign policy – quite the contrary seems to be the case. He cites the many emails he gets from serving officers basically agreeing with his non-interventionist views, and indeed many in the military hierarchy raised objections to the Iraq war, to such an extent that the neocons were screaming at one point about keeping the soldiers in their barracks and out of "politics."
It was great to hear Bacevich lay into the Democrats for not having "the necessary moral courage to take the sort of political risks that are involved in saying we are not going to dominate the world, we are going to bankrupt the country and squander our moral standing" – on MSNBC! That almost makes up for Chris Matthews forgetting he’s supposed to be a journalist.
And so, excited at hearing this news of a prominent defection from the War Party, and coming from inside the Pentagon, no less, I eagerly sought out the actual text [.pdf] that had Prof. Bacevich so enthused. I have to confess to being a bit disappointed: I should have taken to heart his caveat about the authorship being more important than the content. Outside of the most reified academic journal, I’ve never tried to navigate prose so clotted with coined phrases and indecipherable jargon: the authors torture their readers with phrases like "sustainable interdependence," "national strategic narrative," and other coined phrases of such ethereal vagueness that one is drawn into a semi-hypnotic state in which individual words no longer seem to have much meaning, but only via accumulation do they impart a blurred but recognizable impression.
What’s recognizable is not anything new: it’s the same old transnational progressivism that has animated the "internationalist" wing of the War Party since the days of Woodrow Wilson, albeit leavened with the spice of declinism – an admission that, for purely economic reasons, we simply cannot
sustain our foreign policy of untrammeled imperialism and global
dominance. It is a sigh of exhaustion coming from the pinnacle of power, a warning that our over-extended and obscenely expensive "defense" budget is diverting vital resources away from more productive uses.
Of course, this being the Obama administration, the authors cannot bring themselves to say where this purloined wealth is being diverted from – instead, they point to our lack of "infrastructure," and cuts in the education budget, and the straitened circumstances of our increasingly threadbare Welfare State. Yet they do manage to acknowledge what is obvious to everyone: that the entrepreneurial spirit that built America’s great wealth is in some pretty sad shape:
"Many of us have forgotten that rewards must be earned, there is no ‘free ride’ – that fair competition and hard work bring with them a true sense of accomplishment. We can no longer expect the ingenuity and labor of past generations to sustain our growth as a nation for generations to come."
Well said – yet we are never told what is the source of this complacency and expectation of a "free ride." Perhaps it’s best not to delve into that too deeply, because the authors have other concerns – that is, aside from making a pitch for more "infrastructure" and "investing" more federal dollars in the teachers’ lobby and the rigidly bureaucratic state-monopoly system over which they preside. Their chief concern is this:
"For forty years our nation prospered and was kept secure through a strategy of containment. That strategy relied on control, deterrence, and the conviction that given the choice, people the world over share our vision for a better tomorrow. America emerged from the Twentieth Century as the most powerful nation on earth. But we failed to recognize that dominance, like fossil fuel, is not a sustainable source of energy."
In short, we are not going to conquer the world, and it’s time our rulers recognized the economic and military reality: so give it up, guys! America’s fifty-year global rampage is about to come to an end, whether we like it or not.
This is precisely what libertarians such as Ron Paul have been saying for years, and this is the real key to a left-right, progressive-libertarian alliance. As Paul has pointed out on numerous occasions, we could fund all the lefty-liberal pet projects like government-run death panels healthcare and free Twinkies for all if only we would give up the Empire.
I have to add, however, that there are some major problems with Mr. Y’s woozy-globalist worldview. Reading this prose, one is reminded of a late-night campus bull session fueled with a liberal dose of psychedelics, in which the "interconnectedness" of Everything is often and solemnly noted. This latter-day Woodstockian worldview all too easily translates, in "national security" terms, into the by-now-familiar language of "humanitarian" intervention. It’s no accident that Mr. Y’s prescription is prefaced by Anne-Marie Slaughter lecturing us that we are an "exceptional nation" because we are committed "to universal values – to the equality of all human beings, not just within the borders of the United States, but around the world."
Ms. Slaughter, until recently a top official in the Pentagon’s policy department, was one of the loudest agitators for US military intervention in Libya – a testament to this administration’s militant defense of "universal values." That this lays down a tripwire for yet another prolonged war in the Middle East is rendered no less dangerous because it is done in the name of "multilateralism" and "humanitarianism" rather than unilateralism and "fighting terrorism."
I’m hardly shocked that Porter and Mykleby in effect modify the concept of sovereignty to suit their own purposes: America is committed to "sovereignty without tyranny," they aver, and go on to attack the Treaty of Westphalia as a hopelessly outdated standard which must be discarded by a new doctrine of "interdependence." After all, the US military has been heedlessly violating the sovereignty of other countries since the Mexican-American war, and never more brazenly or massively than with our global "war on terrorism" – so is it any surprise these two worthies, immersed in the culture of the Pentagon, disdain the traditional concept of sovereignty, as such?
At the heart of this Wilsonian – or, really, [Franklin D.] Rooseveltian – vision is a scheme to make imperialism work on the cheap. Recognizing the limits of American power, and yet still trying to maintain some façade of a "world order" – one that favors the US and its alleged "interests" – this is the task the transnational progressives have set for themselves. What they want, most of all, is a soft landing when the supporting structures of the Empire begin to crack. Since I live in that Empire, I, too, hope our fall will be sufficiently cushioned, but my sense of realism – call it pessimism conditioned by history – warns me to prepare for the worst.
Professor Bacevich is right: neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have the will to pull this country back from the abyss of financial and moral bankruptcy. The collapse, when it comes, will prove the case against Empire – but by then it will be too late.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- BS in Baghdad – May 24th, 2012
- Interventionism and the Elites – May 22nd, 2012
- Obama or Anarchy? – May 20th, 2012
- What Does Ron Paul Want? – May 17th, 2012
- Hillary’s Terrorists – May 15th, 2012





paul
April 28th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
The entrepreneurial spirit has died because the vast majority of people in this country have been deprived of resources, and most barely make it from paycheck to paycheck. Even the most dedicated entrepreneur needs some resources to work off. You can't make nothing out of nothing. Vast oceans of talent are being wasted in America, not because people are lazy, but because they do not have access to resources. This is NOT the fault of government alone. It is the fault of the corporatocracy, in which government is the junior partner, and corporate power is the senior partner, and under which we are the peasants.
montaigne
April 28th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
I don't mind posting a remark is delayed because somome must eye it forst. But when the actual news/comments disappears before the co0mment is hown is too idiotic! And if one gets rejected – which might explan why a comment did not appear at all – the least that person could do was to argue the case for rejection. (Seemingly it is Jason Ditz news, that are handled like that.)
montaigne
April 29th, 2011 at 3:28 am
Sorry for the misspellings. But one cannot anymore edit a post.
RED DAVE
April 29th, 2011 at 3:41 am
So Justin persists in his fantasy that there are the bad members of the capitalist ruling class, the Obamas and their ancestors, and the good members, the Ron Pauls and theirs. This of course neglects the fundamental fact that the root of all American war is capitalism itself. Ron Paul and his ilk are just the right-wing version of Eugene McCarthy and his: ruling class politicians who lack or avoid the vision that the capitalism they help to run is causing the wars they claim to hate.
GradyWilson
April 29th, 2011 at 4:16 am
As a typical John Bircher Justin pretends that US imperialism is exclusively the fault of "progressives" and specifically Wilson and Roosevelt. Raimondo fails to mention that these men came from and represented the ruling class and that US imperialism has had strong bi-partisan support since the colonists and founders slaughtered the natives and bought their slaves.
Again, here is a speech by Republican Senator from Indiana, Albert Beveridge, in 1989 proclaiming the virtues of US manifest destiny and militant imperialism. :
The March of the Flag
It is a noble land that God has given us; a land that can feed and clothe the world; a land whose coastlines would inclose half the countries of Europe; a land set like a sentinel between the two imperial oceans of the globe, a greater England with a nobler destiny.
It is a mighty people that He has planted on this soil; a people sprung from the most masterful blood of history; a people perpetually revitalized by the virile, manproducing workingfolk of all the earth; a people imperial by virtue of their power, by right of their institutions, by authority of their Heaven-directed purposes-the propagandists and not the misers of liberty.
It is a glorious history our God has bestowed upon His chosen people; a history heroic with faith in our mission and our future; a history of statesmen who flung the boundaries of the Republic out into unexplored lands and savage wilderness … http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1898beveridge….
GradyWilson
April 29th, 2011 at 4:19 am
"This of course neglects the fundamental fact that the root of all American war is capitalism itself" – RED DAVE
This seems to be the sole reason why libertarians exist.
richard vajs
April 29th, 2011 at 4:24 am
One issue above all represents the decline of America to me – it is our idiotic devotion to that racist, land-stealing, piece of garbage country of Israel. It is the reason for our "War on Islam" and our consequent love of the military and our willing embrace of fascism. The most perverse result of this devotion is that it has brought a culture of lies with it (e.g. the weird notion that Israel seeks peace). Lies now are the coin of the realm in America; our revered capitalist system is now a sysytem of exploitation and usury. Our elected officials are now whores or half hearted in their loyalty to America. The proof of this is soon to be demonstrated in Congress as we put another boot in Palestine's face. America would be helped by a fair MidEast policy, but that won't happen.
Wootie Berster
April 29th, 2011 at 4:29 am
Indeed, monsieur, Ditz seems oddly sensitive to comments and is apt to censor too readily. On the other hand, who knows what sort of insane rants and gibberish the mods have to deal with around here. No doubt the imperialists have pointed their comment pit bulls at Antiwar. Look at this way.. you can't be right without being censored from time to time. If everyone likes you, you are doing something wrong. Cheers.
emsnews
April 29th, 2011 at 4:59 am
Our wars with all Islam are joined at the hip with our wars for controlling oil profits. Which we are losing since the Muslims increasingly are moving towards China which is not at war with all Islam, and China will gain all the profits. As we walked into these endless wars, China's government-controlled oil company, Sinopec, has become one of the biggest corporations on earth.
What troubles me about libertarians is their fantasy that a country with zero social services will triumph on this planet. How odd is this? There are no first world countries with zero social services! Indeed, virtually all have more not less than the US. And China is striving for that ideal, not the libertarian ideal of zero social services!
Indeed, as the communists there wrest away economic power from the free trade/no tax/free credit gang in the West, we should be logical here: who do we imitate? The wretched, insane US system which has bankrupted America and ruined our sovereignty or the Chinese model which is very intent on nationalist power, rising social services and wages and a stronger population?
It is obvious: we have to examine China's methods and see what went wrong here. China's government controls the energy markets, ours has a system that loots the population and leaves them all paupers!
MvGuy
April 29th, 2011 at 5:54 am
We know not for whom we fight, or bankrupt ourselves… $I,IOO,OOO,OOO,OOO,OO a year for ?????
geo1671
April 29th, 2011 at 7:22 am
Right on vajis :^/–Things of better change will happen if Justin/Others would stop using the term Ne-coons but instead IsraelFirsters.guys at antwars hate the J word. At least vajis's OBVIUOS commentary,would have previous years , been a No-No and never be allowed.There is going to be alot of escapie conversions to Christianity and the cycle will repeat itself after WWIII.
geo1671
April 29th, 2011 at 7:30 am
"America’s fifty-year global rampage " really Justin? How forgetfull you are–USA navy was bombing the middle east over 200 years ago and worse trying to steal Canada fromthe Brits–how about Cuba or Hawaii or Philliopines. Jesse Vanturia had a good piece yesterday on Libya conflict,when ask–cival conflict why we have a right to use military–his responce–did any country have a GODdam right to invade USA during the cival war and would we stand for it? USA was created by England sending and emptying all it's prisonerss into America . No wonder America is actually ALWAYS been a terrorist state :^/
geo1671
April 29th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Stop being an @ss and using Justin's name. He ain't dumb like you–U nitwit,keep doing crap like this and without real anchorman Raimondo,this site will disappear.
:^(
richard vajs
April 29th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Actually, 4 out of 5 of my posting regarding Israel and its toxicity never get posted. My comments are indeed obvious, which should never be concluded as being so obvious that the point is not needed to be made.
Another article in today's ANTIWAR.COM reports that US congress members are threatening cutoff of humanitarian aid to the supine state of Palestine because the Palestinians are starting to put on a united front to an occupying Israel. The Congresswoman Ilena Ros-Lehtinen, who obviously resides in Tel Aviv, is in the lead of this pledge of allegiance to Israel's theft of Palestine. O course Joe Lieberman, Jane Harman, Eric Cantor and the rest of our Congress with birthrights in Israel as well as those stupid Christian Zionists, and the just plain whores paid by AIPAC will force this country to block the UN's recognition of Palestine.
This is also so obvious; I dearly wish it was unnecessary for me to state it. But it needs stating and restating .
drosera
April 29th, 2011 at 8:35 am
How come Justin is so nasty towards Rachel Maddow and then goes on to comment at length about a guest on her show who had something significant to say?
Dozing thru the war
April 29th, 2011 at 8:42 am
He went on to say appropriately nasty things about what the guest had written.
RED DAVE
April 29th, 2011 at 8:54 am
As a Jewish, non-Zionist, let me say that your anti-Israel comments are verging on anti-semitism. No they are not the same. It is perfectly possible to be anti-Israel and not be anti-semitic. You, however, are skirting the the edge and are often over it.
Duglarri
April 29th, 2011 at 9:10 am
But capitalism is not the nation, and the nation can control capitalism, if only certain steps could be taken. Like: breaking the control money has over politics. It's a stretch to imagine it now, but if the huge advantage of campaign contributions by corporations was blocked, replaced by 100% public funding of campaigns, it's possible that one person one vote would mean capital would be outvoted by democracy in this country like it once was.
johnc
April 29th, 2011 at 9:51 am
The moniker " Mr. Y." is obviously a reference to "X" George Keenan(?) whose memo foreshadowed the Cold War. I kind of get the feeling that Y sees a period of autarky, internal repression, and regrouping.
emsnews
April 29th, 2011 at 10:01 am
First of all, who is winning the economic war? Yes, we are at 'war' with trade issues! All major wars between states revolve around exploitation of trade, etc. England wanted to lock Germany out of Africa and Asia during the Victorian era and got into a very hot series of wars with imperialist Germany over trade issues!
China, like our other trade partners, has been winning the trade wars with the US. Ever wonder why? Who is losing this war? Who is actively working with communist China to move US jobs there? Eh? Take a peek!
Why, they are our darling 'capitalists'! And the Chinese know this! They went way out of their way to court our capitalists and lure them into China. The plan was to let these Americans imagine they would be running China. But of course, they aren't and can't. The Chinese communists run China even today!
The capitalists in China cooperate with the statist Chinese communists to wipe out US industries. A win-win for China. A key part of this plan was to 'fatten the goose' by getting the US industrialists very rich with paper money while selling the US industries to China. But each deal in China forces our own industrialist capitalists to HAND OVER POWER TO CHINESE and have them first as equal partners and then pushed out of China, bit by relentless bit.
Trust me on this, I know the Chinese leadership really well.
emsnews
April 29th, 2011 at 10:03 am
"From the Halls of Montezuma (Mexico City) to the shores of Tripoli (Libya)…" is a rather famous song written before the Civil War. :)
emsnews
April 29th, 2011 at 10:07 am
By the way, do note that our Merchant Marine has vanished (He is dead, Jim!) whilst China's Merchant Marine is now one of the biggest on earth? Figure this riddle out and you will figure out how your precious 'capitalists' already decapitated our economic trade system.
liberranter
April 29th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
This is NOT the fault of government alone. It is the fault of the corporatocracy, in which government is the junior partner, and corporate power is the senior partner, and under which we are the peasants
That's true to the extent that it is the corporatocracy that is behind the facade that is called government. However, it is that facade that issues, on behalf of said corporatocracy, the punitive, growth-killing laws, regulations, sanctions, tariffs, taxes, and penalties that have kept entrepreneurial efforts out of the public eye. I say "out of the public eye" because the entrepreneurial spirit in America is as alive as ever; it has merely gone underground, where it will remain unless or until the bureaucratic barbed wire laid down by the corporatocracy is torn away for good.
liberranter
April 29th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
"Mr. Y." is ultimately a pseudonym that breaks out to "Mr. Yes-man." The fact that these two buffoons are so easily identified by their real names should tell us that they never intended to write anything profound, earth-shattering, or boat-rocking. Career brass simply don't do such things. At least not while they want to remain on active duty till retirement age, after which they can draw their fat pensions and obtain sinecures within the military-industrial complex, which is the typical post-legion path for such creatures.
RED DAVE
April 29th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Chinese capitalists are competing against US capitalists. US capitalists move US industries abroad. Chinese capitalists screwing Chinese workers.
Sounds like business as usual for the bourgeoisie.
Sam
April 29th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
In America's prisons are more than 2 millions most innocent blacks and sout americans, a true gulag.
Sam
April 29th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
In America's prisons are more than 2 millions most innocent blacks and south-americans, a true gulag.
GradyWilson
April 29th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
"the imperialists have pointed their comment pit bulls at Antiwar."
Really? I haven't noticed "comment pit bulls" advocating imperialism here at antiwar.com. Can you provide some examples?
PeterGrfx
April 29th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
I might be off-base, so correct me if I am, but I thought the importance of Mr. Y's authorship is not simply that it puts a military uniform on a case for military restraint, but that, should we ever elect a non-interventionist (or at least a much-less-intervention) president, s/he would have an element of the officer corps s/he could turn to should the reigning military honchos prove resistant to the new policy.
But, like Justin, I, too, am pessimistic about our chances. While I still root for the end of the U.S, empire and the restoration of the republic, I fear the empire's death throes will bring the country, and any chances for the republic, down with it. It won't be pretty.
PeterGrfx
April 29th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Another related matter I'd like comment on is whether the following is an important question: Does the U.S. HAVE an empire it can divest itself of; or are we so far gone that the U.S. IS an empire, and bringing it down means bringing the country down as well?
Oswaldwasalefty
April 30th, 2011 at 2:22 am
I'm not one of those who believes the U.S. is going to be declining anytime soon. Washington still has an historic comparative advantage in military fire power, and it is prepared to continue using that advantage as its political instrument of choice for the foreseeable future.
One liberal Justin needs to add to his rogues gallery of liberal interventionists is Richard "We're All Keynesians Now" Nixon. And the U.S. won its War Of Aggression Against Indochina, 1962-73, Nixon deserves credit for delivering the victory blows for the Empire. In 1993 Vietnam surrendered, by "agreeing" to pay the odious debt of the Saigon regime. Cambodia and Laos appear poised to do the same thing today. Power always finds a way to win.
richard vajs
April 30th, 2011 at 3:30 am
I am also ethnically Jewish, but the truth is the truth regardless of my assigned lot in things. What Israel is doing to the Palestinians is just plain wrong. Let the chips fall where they may. And what, may I ask, is honorable about being an elected official in a country when you put another country's interests above the interests of the country that elected you?
emsnews
April 30th, 2011 at 5:49 am
This is only so these countries can join Germany, Japan and China in the real war: trade. With this deal, they get 'free trade' with the US which means one way trade where they get richer and we get the shaft. If we look at economics, we lost every war since 1941.
GradyWilson
April 30th, 2011 at 6:18 am
And notice the relationship with this so called "free trade" and fascism:
Harold Pinter's acceptance speech for the Nobel Prize in Literature:
"In a hoarse voice, he accused America of massacring innocent people all over the world in the name of democracy. He asked: "How many people do you have to kill before you qualify to be described as a mass murderer and a war criminal? One hundred thousand?"
…Pinter said the justification for invading Iraq was based on "a tapestry of lies" and went on: "We have brought torture, cluster bombs, depleted uranium, innumerable acts of random murder, misery, degradation and death to the Iraqi people and call it 'bringing freedom and democracy to the Middle East'."
He went on to accuse America of supporting "every Right wing military dictatorship in the world" since the end of the Second World War. He added: "It also has its own bleating little lamb tagging behind it on a lead, the pathetic and supine Great Britain."
mike
April 30th, 2011 at 10:22 am
This "Progressive" will never join with the Libertarians as long as they oppose the Public Education System, sorry. Cheap shots at teachers and their union's won't help get me on board. The rest of the points Justin makes are valid.
richard vajs
April 30th, 2011 at 10:38 am
RED DAVE,
Actually, Israel's cruel treatment of the Palestinians dishonors semetism more than my comments ever will. And are you on the ruling committee and entitled to judge my comments and intentions. If so, I guess I am out of the tribe now. Does this mean that they are going to replace my missing foreskin?
Richard Vajs
Sam
April 30th, 2011 at 10:58 am
The Y-article, from the Pentagon shows there is yet hope left. The service-men-women who have really to pay the price of the wars instigated by the draft dodgers neocons must become more vocal.
Bob D
May 1st, 2011 at 6:26 am
Red Dave,
By not being specific your comments make no sense. Are you defending Joe Lieberman and Jane Harman? What exactly do you take exception to in the vajs comments? or are you merely saying he makes good points but he makes them too strongly for your delicate tastes? I'm afraid you come across as a self-hating closet Zionist Jew
ozzie
May 1st, 2011 at 12:36 pm
The financial collapse of USA is something we should hope for. That would mean an end to a number of nightmarish wars and hopefully also an end to Americas interference with other countries.
Dave Boyer
May 1st, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Thanks for posting the Beveridge quote. It was new to me, and clearly exposes the lunatic ravings of an Imperialist War Pig.
mhstahl
May 1st, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Would you care for expensive shots? They are out there.
Oswaldwasalefty
May 1st, 2011 at 8:04 pm
Looks like Bin Laden has finally been killed. One of the most useful bogeymen for the Empire ever. Of course, now this means that all militant resistance to the U.S. will end. Oh yeah, and the uprisings in the Arab should be coming to an end now also, since every Arab dictators wants to blame his Osama's little rag tag army for unrest in their nations.
Apparently, he was killed in a drone strike, which obviously justifies the use of these weapons anywhere in the world.
Strider55
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:05 am
Regarding those trite phrases like "sustainable interdependence," "national strategic narrative," etc.:
A long time ago I read an article about the bureaucratic mind (I know that's an oxymoron, but stay with me here). The idea was to take 20 multisyllable adjectives and 10 multisyllable nouns. Create two 10-word columns of adjectives and one of nouns, and give each row a number from 0 to 9. Then just think of any 3-digit number, take the appropriate word from each column, and presto! — instant high-sounding but meaningless phrase. Looks like "Mr. Y" has refined the process a bit by allowing for 2-digit numbers as well.
mah29001
May 5th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
And you wonder why I don't seem to care about Ron Paul…it's because of people like you…
mah29001
May 5th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
I'm guessing when it came to the Soviet Union…where was Harold Pinter?
mah29001
May 5th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
How about when Justin Raimondo did not mind Russia invading Georgia? That was okay right?
mah29001
May 5th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Raimondo is buddies with neo-Confederates at Lewrockwell.com who justify the South having slavery….but hey, you'd think if Europeans left the Americas and its civilizations alone, everything would be "peachy" right?