The condemnations, the imprecations, the expressions of shock are rolling in, as the nations of the world raise their voices in protest over the Mediterranean massacre carried out by Israeli commandos, but rather than get into specifics, I want to note a general pattern that this incident seems to confirm.
It is often said, by Israel’s defenders, that the Jewish state is part and parcel of the West: that Israel, the only democracy in the region, must be defended because they are, after all, reliable allies who share our values, the heritage of Athens and Jerusalem. That has been the conventional wisdom – and it’s wrong. The Mediterranean Massacre underscores the wrongness of this assumption.
Israel is not a Western country, and hasn’t been for some time: helped along by this latest incident, the realization of this fact by Western governments and peoples will represent a turning point in the Jewish state’s relations with the civilized world, especially including Jews in the Diaspora. I have argued this for years: that the successful aliya program pushed by the Israeli government has displaced the old European-derived Israeli elites with a new, more Asiatic influence, one that is now – with the rise of the Israel far right – the dominant factor in Israeli politics.
Birthed by leftist Zionists who sought to build an egalitarian community in the midst of a desert, the modern state of Israel has taken on the characteristics of its neighbors – gone native, so to speak, both culturally and politically. The large scale infusion of North African and Asiatic populations has changed Israeli society irrevocably, so that, today, the rise of a thuggish fascist demagogue like Avigdor Lieberman, the former bouncer turned Foreign Minister, is all too believable. Lieberman isn’t a political anomaly: he and his party represent what is the dominant trend in Israeli politics.
In understanding how the Israelis justify killing sixteen civilians in international waters – and kidnapping hundreds – we have to look at it from the viewpoint of a savage. Now I don’t mean by that term someone necessarily wearing animal skins, and wielding a club: savages can wear Armani suits, and wield nuclear weapons, as the history of the twentieth century attests. In the West, however, the culture and especially religious belief prevents the celebration of savagery as civic virtue: when we commit atrocities, we justify it as a proportionate use of force in retaliation for previous acts of aggression by the victims of our wrath. Hiroshima and Nagasaki – and the arguments used to buttress the case for killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians – come to mind. The death of innocents is explained away as “collateral damage.”
The savage mind, however, works differently. Shorn of what we would recognize as a moral sense, the savage glories in his capacity for pitiless violence. It’s a survival mechanism: in his world, red in tooth and claw, instilling fear in your opponent means winning more than half the battle. As a survival strategy, it’s like the one inmate who mutters ominously to himself while exhibiting all the characteristics of a violent psychotic: the other prisoners give him plenty of space because they think he’s liable to do anything. So, too, in the case of the Israelis, who are signaling their willingness to go to any lengths in order to instill the fear of their wrath far and wide.
Yes, they’re telling us, not even you in the West – our “friends” and allies – are exempt. We’ll kill your people, and kidnap them with impunity. We’ll steal your secrets, and the identities of your citizens: we’ll spy on you, and collaborate with your enemies (and ours). Nothing is beneath us. The voice of the Israeli Attila rings loud and clear, and it is telling us what was clearly said by Ron Torossian, organizer of the June 1 “we stand with Israel” demonstration outside the Turkish UN mission:
“I think we should kill a hundred Arabs or a thousand Arabs for every one Jew they kill.”
This precisely describes the guiding principle of the Israelis’ strategic vision: respond to a few stray rockets with a full-scale invasion and prolonged occupation and blockade. Respond to the imaginary “threat” of a ship full of unarmed “activists” and journalists by launching a military assault, murdering sixteen and wounding a good number of the survivors. Torossian, who has taken on the job of defending this act of savagery, is at least honest in accurately transmitting the Israeli view and its implications. After all, why stop at killing a mere thousand Arabs: why not a hundred thousand, or a million?
This is the voice of the savage being raised in the midst of our advanced industrial civilization: it’s as if a giant atavism suddenly reared its shaggy head above the New York City skyline, shaking its fist and roaring as skyscrapers tremble. It is Nietzsche’s blond beast speaking in Hebrew. The IDF is beyond good and evil, the settlers Overmen with Brooklyn accents.
To add a note of hilarity to this foreboding scene, we have the Israelis and their amen corner claiming the crew and passengers “ambushed” the poor defenseless IDF, complaining that they beat their assaulters with whatever makeshift weapon they could lay hands on. The “proof” that this was a boatload of “militants” – terrorists, in fact, in league with al Qaeda and Hamas – is that they defended themselves. It’s funny how, even in justifying a brazen assertion of dominance, the defenders of the Jewish state revert to the role of the victim. Old habits are hard to break, but one has to wonder: what kind of mental processes allow a person to make such arguments?
We are dealing, here, with a sociopathic tendency that only takes on the superficial appearance of a political ideology. The classic profile of the sociopath is one so fixated on the fulfillment of his own desires that every means are used to achieve his ends. Out of such raw materials serial killers are made, and also dictators like Stalin and Hitler. Add the animating factor of religion to the mix, and a monster arises out of the bubbling brew, a bestial creature bereft of morality, and without any check on its inherently destructive nature.
In Israel’s case the creature can more accurately be termed a monster in the Frankenstein mold, that is, a monster created by the mad scientists who have been in charge of US foreign policy since the Reagan years. We nurtured the young Frankenstein when he was but a babe in the cradle, recognizing the Jewish state at a crucial moment in its development, and since that time subsidizing it, arming it, and protecting it from its own worst impulses – until, today, we have a perfectly monstrous juvenile delinquent turned sociopath on our hands, who’s mugging the neighbors, stealing from our wallet, and thumbing his arrogant nose at all and sundry for good measure.
A few columns back, I asked: Have the Israelis gone crazy? The Mediterranean Massacre answers that question with a resounding yes.
So what do you do when one of your neighbors, or friends, goes off the deep end, and starts making life difficult for everyone around him? Well, you can call the cops, but in this case that’s not possible: the US-brokered resolution passed by the UN Security Council managed to condemn the violence while not mentioning its authors. The Obama administration, for its part, “stands with Israel,” as Jack Tapper reports for ABC News:
“I’m told there won’t be any daylight between the US and Israel in the aftermath of the incident on the flotilla yesterday, which resulted in the deaths of 10 activists… ‘The president has always said that it will be much easier for Israel to make peace if it feels secure,’ a senior administration official tells ABC News.”
If the only way we can make the Israelis feel “secure” is by allowing them to engage in international piracy on the high seas, then perhaps this is the sort of high-maintenance relationship we can no longer afford. When Israelis are allowed to kill and kidnap Americans, without having to endure even a mild rebuke, one has to wonder what, exactly, is going on in Washington, D.C. Yes, the Israel lobby is one of the most powerful, but surely there’s someone in those circles willing to stand up for America and American interests – isn’t there?
Although information is still sketchy, there may be as many as nine Americans traveling with the flotilla, including Joe Meadors, a veteran of the 1967 bombing of the USS Liberty: no word yet as to whether he survived the Mediterranean Massacre. Other possible American victims of Israeli state terrorism include Ann Wright, former US Army colonel and Deputy Chief of Mission to Afghanistan. Underscoring the dire physical threat posed by the flotilla to Israel’s national security, we have the 81-year-old Ambassador Edward L. Peck, former State Department Chief of Mission in Iraq and Mauritania, Deputy Director of the Cabinet Task Force on Terrorism at the Reagan White House, and State Department Liaison Officer to the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the Pentagon. These are the dangerous “militants” who “ambushed” the delicate flowers of the IDF.
If the Israelis killed or injured a single American – and we still don’t know – the “we stand with Israel” position of the Obama administration approaches treason. That’s a word the War Party uses with promiscuous abandon, but in this instance I’m using it because it precisely describes the policy of sacrificing one’s own citizens on the altar of fealty to a foreign capital. If “a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils,” as our first President put it, then Obama’s craven act of appeasement in this instance epitomizes all that Washington feared and warned against.
As I have long warned, the political evolution of Israeli society is taking a disturbing turn, and the one question that we ought to ask ourselves is why hasn’t the Israeli government had to suffer any blowback on the home front? Why isn’t the Israeli public up in arms over this brazen violation of international law and common sense? Why do the fascist thugs in possession of the Israeli state still enjoy the support of the Israeli people?
The answer is that Israeli society has long ago been poisoned by the bacillus of fascism, and – sheltered under the umbrella of US military and financial support – the bacterium has flourished in the perfect Petri dish of generous American aid. Now the creature has broken out of the laboratory, and is roaming the world in search of victims – and finding them in a couple of boat loads of lefty journalists and international do-gooder types. What we ought to be asking ourselves, somewhat nervously, is: who’s next?
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Our Bloodstained Hands – February 7th, 2012
- The Syrian Crucible – February 5th, 2012
- Can Ron Paul Be Tamed? – February 2nd, 2012
- Iraq in Retrospect – January 31st, 2012
- Putting Israel First – January 29th, 2012





epppie
June 2nd, 2010 at 4:54 am
This is a brilliant article. But I think that it's wrong to contrue "savagery" in terms of primitivism and the state of nature. I think that the kind of savagery you are talking about is a form of decadence. It is a twisted form of cultural sophistication, a kind of fake primitivism.
And I think we really need to recognize that there is an element of like father like son here, in reverse. The brutal, malevolent fascism we see more and more clearly in Israel is in large part an imprint from us, though influences from Russia, etc., surely do play a role. When we look at Israel, we are really looking in a mirror.
And as I have thought about this today, knowing that every single representative I have in DC, from Presidency to Senate to House, would enthusiastically support Israel's vile brutality, it is hard to escape the terrible feeling that we are living in the Belly of the Beast.
Heathcliff_Maw
June 2nd, 2010 at 5:04 am
Keith Olbermann did not say "Israel" even once during Tuesday's show. Rachel Maddow gave the matter only a brief segment. She passed no judgment. She only summarized what was being reported and said that, because the country involved was Israel, the matter would be observed with minute acuity, whatever that was supposed to mean. No, Rachel. Because the country was Israel, the matter will be observed with a blind eye.
MoT
June 2nd, 2010 at 5:34 am
"who’s next?"…. Ask the country that has Israeli subs parked off its coast. That should answer anyone's questions.
sherban
June 2nd, 2010 at 5:43 am
comparison with fascism is not real.Fascism was an ideology based in a lay theory.A such kind of theory is easy to oppose and for those who believe in it is easy to abandon when it is clear that the ideology was wrong.Not such is the case with Israel,their superiority-Netaniahu said a couple of days ago addressing to 189 countries :"you are flawed and hypocritical" on their demand that Israel have to adhere to NPT- Israeli fanaticism which is religious and every real event they interpret in an one direction :the struggle of the chosen people with different subhumans who oppose to see in Jews the leading role given by God.The comparison doesn't suit the way followed by each one:the fascists didn't use a corrupted proxy to do their wars.When Germany was defeated Hitler recognized that his belief in the superiority of German nation was wrong.So the Nazism comply to Popper theory of falsiability.This is not the case with a religion believe especially in fanatic form how is principle of "chosen people".
Nick Mulgrave
June 2nd, 2010 at 6:29 am
Well it appears that Israel has wasted no time in paying Turkey back for daring to broker a unilateral nuclear solution with Iran. We all know who's next on the hit list and unfortunately we can only sit by with our hands tied and watch the horrors unfold. The lunatics have now taken over the asylum and they know there in no one left who can stop them. The Nazis are back in power and this time they are armed with nuclear weapons. God help us all!
Duglarri
June 2nd, 2010 at 6:36 am
Who's next, you ask- well, at some point, it's going to occur to someone to wonder why the Israelis actually have not one or two, not one or two hundred, but upwards of five hundred thermonuclear weapons. Ultimately, those weapons are intended for the only country in the world that can really harm Israel. That's the real "Sampson Option."
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Bill
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:04 am
Expect Brazilian victims next. Warmups for the attack on Iran?
mickperry
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:44 am
I would like to think that marriage counselling might work, but Ms Israel and Mr US seem to be so locked into a pattern of violent, abusive and self destructive behaviour that it is difficult to see how they can ever develop a loving caring relationship. It is probably best for all concerned, neighbours and family included, that they be encouraged to divorce and go their seperate ways.
Montaigne
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:55 am
I'm afraid you are right. Still not all jews fall for that mental trap, that might make them better inherently, if they just don't use their own senses and reason to grasp the world, but thus at the same time makes them paradoxically LESS than human. Daniel Barenboim for one brilliant example, Martin van Creweld probably another, since he seems quite reasoned and normal in his writings..
TheDailySketch
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:58 am
Why hasn't anyone, and I mean anyone questioned the footage supplied by the IDF? They had plenty of time to prepare this attack. The film we have seen again and again in the media and the internet, showing the commandoes being attacked; every attacker having a mysteriously handy iron bar, was filmed by whom and when exactly?
As everyone knows how the Israelis operate, the IDF propaganda machine filmed this long before Monday morning, in order to prepare for the demonisation of the activists on board. They were already decided to make an example of this flotilla to stop further flotillas in the future.
The IDF film was a fake and the media complicit in its exploitation.
However, the next flotilla must contain not boats in single figures but a hundred or more boats with thousands and thousands of activists. Either that or the Turks will have to provide military cover right until the Gaza shore.
The US government has shown that it is under Israeli control, and is the real culprit. Why the complicity? Because as others have commented, US public opinion is not outaged by these massacres, but support them. Consequently, the problem is with the US street. I mean the 2006 Lebanon slaughter, the 2009 Gaza genocide, a fascist Foreign Minister hasn't dented Israeli support in the US street.
Lloyd G.
June 2nd, 2010 at 10:01 am
Obviously the Israelis are testing Obama. Expect further provocations — and an escalation of the level of audaciousness of the acts (and the propaganda that follows).
bogi666
June 2nd, 2010 at 10:24 am
Israel,savages with nuclear weapons which I'm sure the Israeli government uses to blackmail the world with the threat of nuking the oil fields of the middle east. Until the American taxpayers decide that they don't want their tax monies given to Israel, $1000 for each Israeli yearly, which subsidizes Israel's socialized medicine and pays for massages with snakes and/or chocolate lotion the bilking will continue aided and abeted by the Congressional Zionists, Israeli firsters who are traitors to America.Savages with nuclear weapons, America's nightmare paid for by American taxes. If these seems insane, it's because it is insane.
bogi666
June 2nd, 2010 at 10:30 am
To hear the wasy the Israeli's tell it, the boats occupants were attacking Israel with knives and some pipes awaiting for the commando helicopters to arrive so they could jump from the deck of the boats thereby knocking the helicopters from the sky with a subsequent invasion. The Israeli government is attributing what they did in the 1940, against the British, and ascribing it to the peace activists.
bogi666
June 2nd, 2010 at 10:32 am
You've hit it, it's a Co-Dependent relationship which is a mental illness.
Karl
June 2nd, 2010 at 11:09 am
Sure Israel is a Western country. Just like Nixon's America or Hitler's Germany.
George Archers
June 2nd, 2010 at 11:24 am
Notice another dead issue–Israel helped south Afracia with acquiring building 10 nukes. Get this, one was tested and Israel was present. After the S.A. regime fell, 6 nukes wer sent to USA and destroyed. Remaining 3 lost in transit– What arrived in America was 3 steel shipping containers of concrete bloocks. Who got the shipping contract? Israel! Where did they end Up? Israel!
Did America investigate? Nope! Hush Hush . Now if that was North Korea doings–Millions of fried Koreans.
Notice this recent story has been buried by our glorious B'assturd Kosher medias?
Thes recent IDF killings will be history–in no time. Just like the Sept 11 attacks–all forgotten,even though evidence points to Israel Firsters did the dirty Kosher deed. Stupid Americans? Right on !
laura madding
June 2nd, 2010 at 11:27 am
God would not be happy with the killer nation : Nazi Israel.
RockyRococo
June 2nd, 2010 at 11:46 am
Do we really believe this happened without a US green light? Is it worth noting that in the immediate aftermath of the Turkish-Brazilian interference in our nice march to war with Iran that it is the Turkish vessel in the flotilla on which the massacre took place? Will the Turks when they go to NATO for redress and support find deaf ears until they scuttle the Iran uranium deal?
liberal
June 2nd, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Right. The way I put it to myself was that we actually do have an example of a state giving nukes to terrorists.
Goldhorder
June 2nd, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Yes… You r totally correct. The US gov. is evil. Has been for over 100 years
Farmer Giles
June 2nd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
I disagree with the assertion that Israel was once a civilized, Western nation that has somehow descended into barbarism in recent decades. From its inception, Israel has been a vicious, expansionist entity. Consider all the massacres (Deir Al whatever, etc.) committed during the founding of the Zionist state, the crazy invasion of Sudan, the so-called "unfortunate affair", the attack on the US Liberty, even mentioned within the same article. If there has been a change in tone, an added brazenness, the cause is the confidence of complete power, not any slow change in ideology. Why does Justin persist in peddling this nonsense?
Joseph
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:05 pm
you are a war criminal like your leaders
Joseph
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Hitler would have been so proud , as israel MAKES SURE THAT THE NAZI LEGACY IS ALIVE.
Maxfield Shield
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:36 pm
While I completely and utterly agree that what occurred was pre-mediated state terrorism by Israel, I do not agree that Israel is a non-Western entity. While it may have had its fling with a kind of left wing egalitarianism, it emerged as a Western colonizing beachhead. Think South Africa. Was not South Africa an extension of Western imperialism and colonalization? Of course. But like South Africa these satelites become geopolitically toxic and pathological in their rendering outmoded genocide and conquests. We now have interenational laws and tribunals, that while frequently ineffective do provide the reference point for what is legal and what is lawless. There lies the main difference. To say that Israel has become like its surrounding neighbors – facistic – verges on a degradation of the Arab world and the kind of dehumanization that has created states like the US (who slaughted with impugnity millions of natives) and Israel who harbors the same dna for conquest using the US founding as its model.
Marcia
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:40 am
Am not clear about grouping of North African and Asiatic as immigrant cultures influencing Israeli policy. You mention Lieberman, who immigrated from Russia as "Asiatic." However, Russian Jews are largely Ashkenazi, as are European Jews, while North African Jewish immigrants are Sephardic, long discriminated against in Israel.
Bianca
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:47 pm
And to consider another point: "…Why isn’t the Israeli public up in arms over this brazen violation of international law and common sense?…" Why is not US public up in arms over our imperial ventures? For the same reason. When elites go crazy, people have little power. I do not doubt that there are plenty of citizens in Israel that are mortified by the brutish character of their leadership. Their media, just like ours, will insure that they have no voice. If you add to this breaking the doors in the middle of the night, shooting family dogs, making up charges, indefinite detentions, taking away rights to attorney, keeping incommunicado, shipping people accross globe for torture — all powerful incentives to keep quiet.
Zbignew Brzezinski, the Bilderberger's elder, warned the cozy circle of elite that they are in danger. Never before in the history of mankind has the population been so politically aware. That is the danger, he claims. The warning has "internet" written all over it.
Solomon
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Same thing with progressive radio. Deplorable. Bankrupt. Barren.
E. A. Costa
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:51 am
"John Charles Hagee (born April 12, 1940) is an American founder and senior pastor of Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas, a non-denominational charismatic church with more than 19,000 active members. John Hagee is the chief executive officer (CEO) at his non-profit corporation, Global Evangelism Television (GETV).
Hagee is the President and CEO of John Hagee Ministries, which telecasts his national radio and television ministry carried in the United States on 160 TV stations, 50 radio stations, and eight networks, including The Inspiration Network (INSP), Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN), and Inspiration Now TV. The ministries can be seen and heard weekly in 99 million homes. John Hagee Ministries is in Canada on the Miracle Channel and CTS and can be seen in Africa, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and in most Third World nations.
Hagee is the founder and National Chairman of the Christian-Zionist organization Christians United for Israel, incorporated on February 7, 2006. He has incurred controversy for his religious beliefs and comments regarding Nazism, Catholicism, Islam, homosexuality, Jews, and Hurricane Katrina.However, on April 25, 2008, Hagee backed away from his comments regarding Hurricane Katrina by saying, "But ultimately neither I nor any other person can know the mind of God concerning Hurricane Katrina. I should not have suggested otherwise."
[wikipedia]
Has the Reverend Hagee by any chance pontificated about the "mind of God" on recent events in the Mediterranean or in the Gulf of Mexico for that matter?
Ah yes, San Antonio, hard behind the Wall Against Mexico built by Boeing under the direction of Bush's Neo-Con Homeland Security Chertoff, who also contracted out to an Israeli security firm to build an electronic battlefield behind a portion of it.
The Israelis, you see, have a lot of experience building walls to isolate, separate, and contain.
Wonder how many Israeli contractors are involved in the new plan to build a wall around Baghdad?
Is Erik Prince's Evangelical Blackwater/Xe still trying to get contracts for its military contractors as Border Patrol agents?
Or will the whole business of domestic security be subcontracted out to Amway or Artistry Cosmetics?
Such a small world after all.
Botha
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Move everybody into the staterooms, then film the passenger violence with thugs dressed in civvies and life jackets.
Witnesses said the commotion lasted 1.5 hours. Plenty of time to clear the decks and stage the resistance.
Also, I had speculated that the IDF mistakenly believed they had jammed comms before the assault. This was later confirmed by an Israeli spokesperson. Imagine what the story would have been had the jamming worked.
Botha
June 2nd, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Justin, I think you are letting the West off too easy.
Good luck
June 2nd, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Is there a list of the dead from the Gaza Flotilla?
Nelson_2008
June 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Everyone agrees that we've just seen yet another act demonstrating a potentially world ending arrogance and evil at work, right?
Regardless of exactly how, when or where the perpetrators and their supporters happened to come about their inhuman cruelty and brutality, the most important thing to do now is to stop them, before they start WW3 and thus potentially end life on this planet as we know it.
This is why I don't understand why antiwar.com does not take up the cause of 9/11 Truth, and push for a real investigation of the events of 9/11.
The 9/11 Truth movement (while it does have its loons, agents provocateurs calculating mis-directors, etc.) it is basically a group of sincere, well-informed, patriotic people awakened to the fact that our whole planet is in danger of extinction unless we expose and stop the organized evil that threatens to consume us.
How many wake-up calls does everyone need before the looming greater danger is apparent?
charles caruso
June 2nd, 2010 at 4:13 pm
American politicians and media have to get over the heebie-jeebies.
(I couldnt resist that one)
Miles Gloriosus
June 2nd, 2010 at 9:40 am
This is what happens when the belief in being The "chosen" people finds political expression. The belief in being better than the rest of humanity because of what a burning bush told one's ancestors was interesting and quaint before the existence of the Jewish state. Now, when that jingoistic and nakedly racist idea finds expression, the results are homicidal.
sajazahe
June 2nd, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Israel = Nazi Germany
guest_clearthinking
June 2nd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Thoughtful. Very thoughtful. Yet, we allow it because we don't raise our voice enough. The US has to come to terms with it not being a bipolar world.
SammyE
June 2nd, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Why are our congress critters not demanding the immediate release of their US citizens from the IDF? Where's our governments support in aiding our countrymen illegally hijacked by pirates on international waters. Boy, but they are quick to defend hijacked vessels and crews from Somali pirates using lethal force. What's the difference between an IDF pirate and a Somali pirate?
masmanz
June 2nd, 2010 at 11:12 am
I agree with much of what Justin is saying here but I disagree with his assertion that as Israel has turned into this evil monster it has somehow become 'eastern.' The eastern Jews had been living peacefully in Muslim lands (including Jerusalem) for ages. The Jews from Western nations are the ones who brought all the ammunition with them and promptly unleashed the terror on the local Arab population.
While the ancient war in East (as in West) were used to be quite brutal (although with far fewer deaths than the modern wars), a marked difference was that the eastern kings always tried to create peace and harmony among all their subjects. Machiavelli was not an eastern sage.
Blubberbutt
June 2nd, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Except that in an abusive marriage, the violence and abuse takes place between the spouses. This relationship is more like Mickey and Mallory Knox…
Guilford
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Justine writes:
"In the West, however, the culture and especially religious belief prevents the celebration of savagery as civic virtue: when we commit atrocities, we justify it as a proportionate use of force in retaliation for previous acts of aggression by the victims of our wrath."
This implication is incorrect. No culture celebrates savagery as civic virtue. ALL cultures, including the Israeli one, justify their savagery as "proportionate use of force," "self-defense," "retaliation."
The massacre of the aid workers on the ship is a case in point. Israel is justifying it as a case of self-defense against the workers' aggression.
Colin Patrick Barth
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:51 pm
It would be nice if you understood the Nietzsche references you were making. You seem to have an idea of Nietzschean philosophy straight out of a bad translation in 1940.
It would also be nice if you used an east/west, asiatic/european division that applies to cultural influences on political ideology after the Roman Empire. The concepts of asiatic autocracy made it around the world long before modern times, just as liberal western values did.
How very racialist is the notion that Israel didn't import its fascist ideas with Ashkenazim from Europe; also, how very bizarre a scenario considering Europe is where fascism became famous.
Jaime
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:57 pm
I agree with the opinion that Israel has savage policies. However, Justin implies that this is due to the influx of North African and Asiatic populations. The author ignores the long tradition of criminal actions on the part of Israel. Israel thuggery was an integral part in the birth of that country. How else can we understand Irgun and the Stern gang? Weren't Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir, definitely not Asiatic nor North African in origin, terrorists par excellence? "
In the West, however, the culture and especially religious belief prevents the celebration of savagery as civic virtue: when we commit atrocities, we justify it as a proportionate use of force in retaliation for previous acts of aggression by the victims of our wrath." Well, in other parts of the world, we call this hypocrisy. The West is equally murderous if not more (Hiroshima and Nagasaki) than the rest of the world, except that westerners justify their actions inventing arguments that they themselves don't believe.
Jaime
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:58 pm
"The savage mind, however, works differently. Shorn of what we would recognize as a moral sense, the savage glories in his capacity for pitiless violence. It’s a survival mechanism: in his world, red in tooth and claw, instilling fear in your opponent means winning more than half the battle." I cannot think of a nation that glorifies more the military, large scale violence and death than the US (Rolling Thunder, Shock and Awe, etc). This, of course, follows a long tradition in the West that goes through Nazi Germany to the Crusades.
hardtruth
June 2nd, 2010 at 8:53 pm
". The large scale infusion of North African and Asiatic populations has changed Israeli society irrevocably, so that, today, the rise of a thuggish fascist demagogue like Avigdor Lieberman, the former bouncer turned Foreign Minister, is all too believable. "
Is it me, or is thiis rank racism? Justin seems to be arguing that Israel just isn't white enough anymore to act in a civilised European manner.
"Shorn of what we would recognize as a moral sense, the savage glories in his capacity for pitiless violence."
Oh puhlease. This is just rubbish. Animals "lack a moral sense", do they therefore "glory" in their capacity fo violence? If you want to see "glorying in a capacity for violence" check out a military parade or weapons magazine.
Sun of zion
June 2nd, 2010 at 10:24 pm
This is an ignorant and flatly stupid article.
I would also call it racistic.
People vote for whoever they vote for no need to guess their origin.
When pushed enough people move to the right.
After 1000's of Israelis were murdered during the Oslo meat grinder.
jackbootstate
June 2nd, 2010 at 11:17 pm
I object to Justin characterizing Israel as "non-Western". It's a racist Euro-settler state as savage as any of the others that have come before it, like the U.S., Canada and South Africa. I don't care much for Justin characterizing Israel as somehow "Asiatic", whatever that might mean, which comes across as racist to me. The implication of Justin's argument is that Israel is some kind of mad aberration from Western behavior, both past and present. Reminds me of liberal fantasies of George W. Bush as some kind of a radical break with past U.S. government behavior, when in reality he was just another chapter in the savage history of a rapacious imperialist power.
jhonkarlos
June 2nd, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Deuteronomy 20:16 "Only in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes."
Deuteronomy 7:2 "and when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them."
Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man."
Lloyd G.
June 3rd, 2010 at 12:19 am
The Israelis PWN themselves. Read the last paragraph and follow the links:
http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/2010/06/gaza_ro…
ericsiverson
June 3rd, 2010 at 1:05 am
Justin you mentioned Kidnaping . How much ransom are the jews requesting . Yugoslavia never tried to keep out the muslim activists , and they to were accused of using disproportant force . evidentently they did no\\t use enough force . Where is Yugoslavia now ?
Justin Raimondo
June 3rd, 2010 at 4:08 am
Is it me, or is this rank racism?"
It's you.
Asia is a place, not a race. In the place called Asia, there was no Enlightenment, no successful liberal (anti-absolutist) revolutions, no concept of the individual as anything more than an appendage of the collective, i.e. the all-powerful State. By imbedding itself in a region where such conditions prevai, the Israeli settler colony — which grew out of the European socialist-Bundist milieu — has taken on the illiberal characteristics of its neighbors: what was supposed to be a socialist utopia has been transformed into a militaristic, clerical-reactionary , expansionist state.
hardtruth
June 3rd, 2010 at 6:08 am
"the Israeli settler colony — which grew out of the European socialist-Bundist milieu -"
Fairer surely to say that Israel "grew out of" the European colionialist occupation mileu, as a supposed response to the European mechanised genocide mileu.
And do you *really* see militarism and expansionism as Asiatic rather than Western state attributes?
Israeli in Exile
June 3rd, 2010 at 7:54 am
Oh Justin. A few months ago you claimed that you want to welcome Israel back into the warm embrace of the civilized western world. Back then I disagreed on the grounds that the so called civilized world is mere fantasy. The same civilized western world you continue to believe in is the world that gave birth to the atrocities committed by Hitler, the ethnic cleansing of Native Americans committed by the Europeans of yesteryear and the same civilized world that used Algerians for nuclear radiation experiments and imported slaves to work the cotton fields of the southern colonies.
When I look at this shining-city-on-the-hill that you keep seeing in the western world, I see misery and genocide. Sure, it has it's pros and cons like anything else in life, but it ain't that special, certainly not civilized in the universal sense.
Tonight, when I read your article about the massacre at sea, I thought, even if for a moment that – that you had finally abandoned those delusions of exceptionalism.
But, much to my disappointment you drew a link between the African and Asiatic people to racists in the Israeli government, racists like Avigdor Lieberman.
The only hitch in your theory is the fact that Avigdor Lieberman was born and raised in Lithuania. Have you looked it up on a map? I will save you the trouble, it's in northern Europe.
Adding insult to injury, you go on to claim that the Asiatic origins of the Israeli political landscape are the culprit.
Again, the only hitch in that argument is the simple fact that most of the bigoted and delusional messianic discourse comes from the colonist settlers, proudly made in the good old USA. Go talk to a dozen settlers in the occupied territories and see how fluent they are in English. Their Hebrew is funny as it's peppered with an American accent.
Once upon a time you came across as a sane, knowledgeable and principled person.
These days you are espousing racist rhetoric and racist views. Have you always held such views, or does your ethnic origin have something to do with your new-found opinions?
Is there any reason why you are so obsessed with ethnic distinctions and the racial superiority of one region or another?
Israeli in Exile
June 3rd, 2010 at 7:57 am
I meant to write Moldova. Avigdor Lieberman was born in Moldova. That's in Eastern Europe.
thoughtbell
June 3rd, 2010 at 11:32 am
I don't think this ostensible shift away from the west to a more "savage" orientation holds water. The leaders of the World Zionist Organization were rather frank about their savage intentions well before Israel became a state, and that has held true to one degree or another since, depending, it seems, on how circumspect they needed to be. Vladimir Jabotinsky, for example, made it clear that Zionism was a self-justifying concept and that the Palestinians would be forced behind an "iron wall". Later, Mosche Dayan said that, since there was no solution, they'd all live "like dogs". The early correspondence has no lack of this kind of sentiment. There's been no remarkable shift.
Corkey
June 3rd, 2010 at 11:35 am
Which goes to show you what I have been saying all along since Obama was elected, Maddow and Olberman are now official news "heels". Under President Bush, they were patriots ("faces") in sheep's clothing, denouncing GWB's every move but the silence is deafening under Obama. Turn off your TVs everyone. They are compromised elitists and nothing they say can be trusted, even when they attempt to partially tell the truth.
bogi666
June 3rd, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Somali's are black Africans. So much for President O'BushBombya endearment towards Africa, although his ancestry is in Kenya not far away, The fact that the black african Somali's fishing grounds ae being stolen from them, the audacity of them to retaliate.
bogi666
June 3rd, 2010 at 5:32 pm
I may not agree with you except for Justin's racism and his censoring me.
Harry Buttle
June 3rd, 2010 at 6:24 pm
The "Samson Option" is the scariest most insane thing I have ever heard of. I only hope that Russia or China will call these lunatics out on their little Global Blackmail. Remember once you pay a blackmailer you will never be off their hook. Pure evil.
Yarmulke
June 3rd, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Raimondo is blinded by anti-Israel bias. He ignores the geopolitical forces that influence Israel’s behavior, and pontificates instead, condescendingly, on the “evolution of Israeli society”. He’s certain it’s a “savage” and “fascist” society that “glories” in violence, so purely for reasons of flawed character it stands guilty of crimes like “piracy” and a “massacre”.
No mention is made of any practical realities or pertinent facts, such as the continued need to blockade Gaza because it’s run by an Iranian proxy army dedicated to Israel’s destruction. No mention either that the armed “humanitarians” who greeted the Israelis had clearly planned a deliberate provocation.
Yarmulke
June 3rd, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Actually, what's scary and insane is being persecuted for two thousand years because bigots like yourself always need a scapegoat (and property to steal). What's scary and insane is having an entire continent round you up and shove you into an oven, along with 6 million of your brethren. And what's pretty scary and insane is a world that judges you by a double standard, never stops seething at you, and openly considers a genocidal "solution" (like hoping that Russia or China will incinerate us) whenever they've got a problem with us. Yes indeed, a world full of raving genocidal monsters like yourself is pretty damn scary and insane, believe me!
musings
June 3rd, 2010 at 9:45 pm
The silence and tepid response of the US government is not benign, and it penetrates into every pore of our ignorant society, one in which, all of a sudden, the Turks are the enemy.
Everything turns on a dime.
musings
June 3rd, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Geopolitical forces? Of course. Turkey must be made to suffer for its agreeing to take nuclear materials from Iran.
It may well be that with Turkey out of the picture, the US will join Israel in having no friends in Moslem states. Interesting times and interesting effects.
I am sure Israel is delighted in the gullibility of the our hillbillity. The Lord will be coming back soon. Look busy.
V for Vendetta
June 4th, 2010 at 1:14 am
The real "axis of evil": Wall Street, Washington and Tel Aviv. They are evil on steroids.
Yarmulke
June 4th, 2010 at 1:27 am
So it was all staged? The film's a fake? Yeah, right!
I wonder how many self-serving delusions you desperately need to cling to!
As long as Israel's enemies are as intellectually impotent and deranged as you are, the less she has to fear. The more nutjob conspiracy theorists, the better!
Auntie_Spinster
June 4th, 2010 at 1:56 am
…you mean, NPR? They're to the right of FOX. Have been since about 1994.
Auntie_Spinster
June 4th, 2010 at 1:58 am
The lunatic is armed to the hilt.
Auntie_Spinster
June 4th, 2010 at 2:02 am
Also note attack on USS Liberty. 1967.
Auntie_Spinster
June 4th, 2010 at 2:08 am
What's scary to me is that Western states would support the establishment a nurture the growth of a theocracy. This is a blatant violation of the separation of church and state.
Auntie_Spinster
June 4th, 2010 at 2:10 am
"hillbility" – that's good. Hillbilly nobility. Blankenship, for instance. Boone Pickens.
Yarmulke
June 4th, 2010 at 2:34 am
I agree with you, but good sense won't have any effect on Herr Raimondo's brain. His preconceived notions about Israel aren't going to change. He sees what he wants to see, reality be damned. He's as mentally imbalanced as he accuses Israelis of being.
Alan MacDonald
June 4th, 2010 at 2:34 am
Ms. Israel is not the only democracy in the Middle East.
In fact, it's not a democracy at all but part of the Global corporate/financial/militarist EMPIRE — just as is Mr. US (and their children, like little UK).
The dysfunctional Global EMPIRE family — posing as Ozzie and Harriet, while exploiting, raping, and killing like cross between Hitler, Manson, and Dahmer.
Empire, and more importantly 'empire-thinking' is a cancerous pathology, or as Kurt Vonnegut used to say, "bad chemicals circulating through the brain" of a country — and turning it into an Empire.
Or as Christopher Hedges recently wrote, the 'will to Empire' turning all the world into a family of "Little Eichmanns"
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
TheDailySketch
June 4th, 2010 at 8:51 am
So, hasbara or are you IDF?
In fact photos of supposed weapons found on the ship are faked. The Israelis forgot about the metadata in modern digital cameras: http://www.politicaltheatrics.net/2010/06/the-gaz… http://i.imgur.com/u9Kul.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/israel-mfa/466296568…
etc etc etc
Also the boat was Turkish. Turkey is a member of NATO and could invoke Art 5. Be very careful what you do IDF if you don't want a real war.
Also Max Blumenthal has confirmed that the raid wasn't bungled it was planned to be violent. http://maxblumenthal.com/2010/06/the-flotilla-rai…
Also, and this has been kept very quiet: an American teenager was one of the dead, with 4 bullets in his head and one in his chest… http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/stor…
Perplexed
June 4th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Thank you for your excellent article, the background history of the perpetrators, and the terrible violence, kidnapping and murder of the humanitarians on the ship. I pray for the families of those who lost their lives or were injured.in the massacre. I also read on another on-line publication, that a reporter on the ship who was taking photos of the assault, was shot through the head and died, and that some bodies may have been thrown overboard.
The mainstream media, as usual, saturates our lives ad naseum with the smallest details on Lindsey Lohan's life, or whomever is the star of the moment in Hollywood, but provides very little information on the real situation in the Middle East, what’s happening to the Palestinians, the possibility of a nuclear attack and the start of World War III.
max
June 20th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
I thought Israel was U.S.A ?
sunofzion
February 6th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Most comments here are made by people who are obviously pacifists.
There is nothing wrong with that in a society where your neighbors do not want to kill you.
In a bad hood you better own a big gun and use it when in need of it.
Anyone else will either be killed or raped and then killed.
But self defense is not allowed, the jews should know better bow their heads and commit mass suicide. This is what we are allowed to do if we were to listen to you. Hopefully none of you who are so eagerly obsessed by Israel will have to go through what we went through over the last 500 years of expulsion, murder, rape,gassing, mass theft by western european countries we lived in and the list goes on. Nobody can tel us what to do and how to defend ourselves. Rest your souls in peace and move on to more important issues.