Now don’t get all excited, or anything, but there is a real chance that the Obama administration may be on the way to a general Middle Eastern peace settlement, one that bypasses the relatively narrow Israeli-Palestinian question, and cuts right to the chase. As reported in the Wall Street Journal:
“The U.S. is negotiating with Egypt a proposal to make the Middle East a region free of nuclear weapons, as the U.S. seeks to prevent Iran from derailing a month-long U.N. conference on nuclear nonproliferation that begins Monday. U.S. officials familiar with the move call it an important step in assuring countries that Washington—criticized by some for its silence about Israel’s undeclared nuclear arsenal—will equitably address weapons proliferation across the region, as Iran seeks to shift focus away from its own nuclear program.”
The irony of the Israeli push to sanction and threaten Iran over its alleged nuclear weapons program – a program, by the way, which our own intelligence community believes was abandoned in 2003 – is that it has focused unwanted attention on the one country in the region which already has nukes: Israel. With 600 nuclear-tipped missiles, at a minimum, armed and aimed at god-knows-who, Israel has stubbornly refused to even acknowledge the existence of such a formidable arsenal. There is a certain hollow ring to the outrage of Israeli leaders as they accuse Iran of violating the terms of a treaty Israel has steadfastly refused to sign.
In spite of how many times the Obama administration tries to console and appease the Israelis, reassuring them of our unflinching and nearly unconditional support, Obama the campaigner had to eventually become Obama the commander-in-chief – i.e. the defender of US interests worldwide. Having sworn eternal allegiance to the Lobby when in campaign mode – remember the humiliating ritual they put him through? – the president must now uphold his oath of office to protect and defend the United States – not Israel – first and last.
When our emissaries return to Washington and report that our support in the region is slipping-to-nonexistent, as the sainted General David Petraeus recently did, the president must act. The US tilt toward Israel is so exaggerated that it is almost a caricature of al-Qaeda’s propaganda, and nowhere is this more glaring than in the realm of nuclear brinkmanship.
The US has no leverage, and no standing, to push for the preemptive dismantling of a nonexistent Iranian Manhattan Project, when it follows Israel’s lead in never even referring to their nuclear arsenal. The one Obama administration official who did mention it was viciously attacked, and hasn’t said boo about it since, but – unless you’re under the age of three – pretending something doesn’t exist won’t make it go away. Israel’s nukes cast a long shadow over the region, and the costs of denying it continue to rise.
The Israelis kvetch that even the possibility of an Iranian nuclear weapon poses an “existential threat” to the Israeli people – evoking images of a second Holocaust – and yet every Arab population in the region is already living that nightmare. Can you imagine Prime Minister Avigdor Lieberman pushing the button, and vaporizing, say, Tehran, or Cairo? I can. This is a guy who once said Israel ought to bomb the Aswan dam, a former bouncer who is now the Foreign Minister of a nuclear state.
Israel is one of the few countries on earth which, along with North Korea, refuses to join the NPT. Unlike the crazed North Koreans, however, who boast about their nuclear capabilities, the Israelis insist on this ambiguous fig leaf – and the US goes along with it, albeit with increasing reluctance. Imagine you’re Gen. Petraeus, and you have to traipse around the Middle East wearing this skimpy attire: it’s embarrassing.
It’s also contrary to US interests, which lie in preventing not only the Iranians but also the Israelis from reducing the region to a radioactive desert. If the US truly wants to see Iran come around, forswear nukes forever, and submit to a credible regime of inspections and full disclosure, then they must not only acknowledge but also seek to disarm the Israelis. Israel, in short, must sign the NPT.
This is the only possible meaning of the nuclear-free zone concept as applied to the Middle East: peripheral noise about how “Washington also reassured Israel it won’t foist a nuclear-free zone on the region until all parties agree to it and significant progress has been made on Mideast peace” is just a lot of static. “Mideast peace” can’t be achieved unless and until the threat of an Arab holocaust is lifted.
As the United Nations convocation on the NPT convenes this Monday, with an address by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the US and Israel are handing him a club to beat them over the head with. This is a price the Israelis are perfectly willing to pay, since they don’t have to care about world – and particularly Arab – opinion. The US, however, is in a different position entirely, and here is where the supposedly identical interests of the two nations radically diverge.
Using Egypt as the intermediary, the Obama administration is tentatively advancing a rather vague proposal to convene a conference on a nuclear-free zone in the Middle East at some unspecified future date. This proposal is supposed to go “beyond what the US has been willing to do before,” according to a “senior US official” cited by the Journal. Whether this means putting everyone’s cards on the table, and pressuring the Israelis to come out of the nuclear closet remains doubtful, because some in the administration are seeking to attach a fatal precondition: “Mideast peace,” i.e. a comprehensive conclusion of the Israeli-Palestinian peace process:
“U.S. officials stressed, however, that they didn’t believe that would happen without first achieving major advances in Arab-Israeli peace talks. ‘We are concerned that the conditions are not right unless all members of the region participate, which would be unlikely unless there is a comprehensive peace plan which is accepted,’ said Ellen Tauscher, undersecretary of state for arms control and international security.”
Tauscher, the exemplary DLC “moderate” during her tenure as a Bay Area congresswoman, has been decidedly immoderate in her stubborn refusal to break the “see no nukes” injunction, never once – despite repeated questioning – admitting Israel possesses “weapons of mass destruction.”
Why do we continue to play this game?
An increasingly influential group of realists within the Obama administration is pushing the nuclear-free zone initiative, but they need help from the grassroots. The Lobby is already all over this, because it represents a threat to their hegemony in Washington. Should it succeed, the nuclear-free zone intiative would signal a fundamental shift away from the Israel-centric policies of the past – exemplified to the nth degree by the Bush administration – and toward a policy that puts America and American interests first.
It is surely in our interests to pursue a peaceful resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but to make this a precondition for any progress on the nuclear issue is not. Israel has spent the last few years claiming Iran’s alleged pursuit of nukes represents an “existential threat,” but what will they say to a proposal for general and complete nuclear disarmament? If the threat were real, they’d agree immediately. Since there is no such threat, however, existential or otherwise, and since in reality the threat comes from nuclear-armed Israel, and not (as yet) Iran, the Israelis have absolutely no interest in giving up their nuclear trump card. After all, they may have to play it some day.
When the Israeli historian Benny Morris wrote an op ed piece for the New York Times justifying an Israeli nuclear first strike, I took it seriously. His illuminating essay reflected, I thought, more than just his own view, but fairly represented a current of opinion with increasing influence in Israeli ruling circles. As I have documented in this space for years, the growth of political and religious extremism in Israel is one of the most dangerous trends in existence, precisely because the Israelis enjoy unquestioned military dominance, rivaling the US in their ability to project power in the region.
It is the growing influence of extremist elements in Israeli society that is sabotaging any prospects of settling the Palestinian question. The US is not going to impose a settlement on the Israelis, or threaten to withhold aid: that’s politically impossible for the Obama administration, and Tauscher knows it. To make “Mideast peace” a precondition for de-nuclearizing the region is to invert the process. The idea is that you first ensure the physical survival of the people of the region, and then get down to the details of just how they’re going to live together. That’s just common sense – but it’s been a very long time since something as plebeian as common sense set the standard in the making of American foreign policy.
The nuclear-free zone was first advanced by the Syrians, in 2003: at the time, only Arab media outlets and Antiwar.com noted it. As I wrote back then:
“The hallmark and guiding principle of U.S. policy in the region is simple: one standard for the Arabs, and another one for the Israelis. Bashar al Assad found this out when tried to explain to Colin Powell why Israel, too, must get rid of its WMD. Powell’s response to the Syrian suggestion that the U.S. back their proposed UN resolution to rid the entire Middle East of nukes and other WMD, submitted to the Security Council on Friday, was to reject out of hand the principle of evenhandedness: ‘Clearing such weapons from the region is a long-standing U.S. goal, but now is not the time to address that matter,’ is how Ha’aretz characterized his attitude.”
Will the Obama administration go beyond Bush-ism in the Middle East? That remains to be seen. But the mere hope should give impetus to a broad-based grassroots movement to make the Middle East a nuclear-free zone. This movement will put pressure on all parties, including but not limited to the Israelis and the Iranians, to agree to give up their nuclear aspirations. In the case of Israel, we have the added obstacle of getting them to even acknowledge the existence of their nuclear arsenal, let alone persuading them to forswear a first strike.
Make no mistake about it. An Israeli first strike against a perceived threat – a perception that is perhaps based on mistaken intelligence – is entirely within the realm of the possible. If indeed the Iranians are trying to build a nuclear deterrent, we are well along the road to a conflict of horrifying proportions. The United States has a moral and practical interest in preventing such a nightmare scenario. That is why a nuclear-free Middle East must be taken up by the United States government without hesitation or preconditions.
This is a project that the peace movement should take up: it doesn’t do to just sit on the sidelines and complain. It is all well and good to critique the administration’s policy, but the point is to make a difference, and in this case we can. A grassroots movement, petitions, lobbying Congress to pass a resolution – all these activities will support those in the administration who are fighting for a more realistic policy in the Middle East.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- Antiwar.com vs. the FBI – May 21st, 2013
- Two Cheers for ‘Isolationism’ – May 19th, 2013
- Our Civil Liberties, RIP – May 16th, 2013
- Raping the World – May 14th, 2013
- The Price of Peace – May 12th, 2013





mickperry
May 3rd, 2010 at 5:02 am
Thanks to the author for laying it all out so clearly and concisely. I was personally surprised when I first read of Petraeus's comments pointing out a divergence of interests between the US and Israel. I believe the importance of his remarks cannot be emphasised too much, and my hope is that other military leaders follow suit; breaking ranks with the prevailing Washington consensus, and thus speaking truth to power.
Lloyd G.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:01 am
Unfortunately, if the Obama administration's new attitude toward Israel is genuine, it makes it an Israeli first strike more likely. The Israelis know that if they hit Iran, an overwhelming majority in Congress will support them (and the press will go berzerk), and will thus force Obama into committing the US military following any Iranian counter-attack.
epppie
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:09 am
Bollocks. The negotiations with Egypt are about shutting down the pressure on Israel. This isn't realism. This is self delusion.
epppie
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:11 am
Petraeus speaking truth to power? Do you understand how flamingly ridiculous that is?
And did you completely fail to notice the way the US political establishment quickly pivoted to demonizing Iran?
epppie
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:13 am
You are right, except that it's the opposite; Obama's pretended new toughness to Israel, which has not a shred of substance to it, is a fake out, intended to make it easier for Israel to attack Iran, by giving the US plausible deniabilty. Then, inevitably, the US will jump into the war with both feet.
doc noss
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:21 am
I agree with Guest. In 1977, when I was a young bartender with relatively little knowledge about Israel and its behavior, my bookie wrote the following on a scrap of paper: "Mark my words! The next country to use nuclear weapons will be Israel". He gave me this note and told me to hold onto it. You know, I held that thing for like 20 years before losing it, but I never forgot it. Of course, as I became educated over the years about the truth of Israeli and Zionist power and behavior, I realized that my bookie was absolutely right. And I don't think there is any stopping of this eventuality, no matter how much we might hope or dream.
bogi666
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:14 am
Justin as much as admitted that the policy of the USG toward Israel relies on common sense by the USG and that's not going to happen because common sense is not common especially for the USG which is more than willing to put American military troops at risk and spend the LAST U.S. $ because of Israeli Chutzpah, unmitigated gall. The Israeli's have become good NAZI's and its leadership has provided its citizens with snake and/or chocolate massages with their socialized medicine subsidsized by the American taxpayers. But then Israel supplies the USA will oil, doesn't it? Seems so.
bogi666
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:14 am
Justin as much as admitted that the policy of the USG toward Israel relies on common sense by the USG and that's not going to happen because common sense is not common especially for the USG which is more than willing to put American military troops at risk and spend the LAST U.S. $ because of Israeli Chutzpah, unmitigated gall. The Israeli's have become good NAZI's and its leadership has provided its citizens with snake and/or chocolate massages with their socialized medicine subsidsized by the American taxpayers. But then Israel supplies the USA will oil, doesn't it? Seems so.
jojoos
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:14 am
Re: statement Crazy Korea
How about explaining USA's envolvement in Korea war killing Millions for no reason-please Justin, who is crazy on this subject ? Daaaah!
jojoos
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:14 am
Re: statement Crazy Korea
How about explaining USA's envolvement in Korea war killing Millions for no reason-please Justin, who is crazy on this subject ? Daaaah!
Watson
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:15 pm
As a correction, North Korea was a voluntary signatory on the NPT from 1985 to 2003 when they dropped out because of Bush's "axis of evil" accusation and other threats by the US.
Watson
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:15 pm
As a correction, North Korea was a voluntary signatory on the NPT from 1985 to 2003 when they dropped out because of Bush's "axis of evil" accusation and other threats by the US.
jeff.davis
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
So here's the deal: Israel is not legitimate. It is a geopolitical crime-in-progress. Criminalality has no "right to exist". Criminals have no "right to self-defense". But criminals ARE human beings, and do retain certain rights, highly valued and long respected. They have the right to surrender to a competent authority, to have the matter adjudicated fairly, ie a fair trial, and, after a just settlement, to be eintegrated into lawful society. This is the RATIONAL path to a mideast settlement, a path which can only be embarked upon when the truth of the situation is acknowledged and a reality-based discussion carried through to it's logical, rational, and just conclusion.
Personally, I don't believe it will happen that way, but rather that the intransigence of power must inevitably lead to a mideast nuclear holocaust.
Damn shame.
RodW
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:49 pm
It's probably past the time when America can tell nuclear powers and would-be nuclear powers to forego their hard-won weapons when everybody knows America will demand the right to keep a few by for a rainy day. To be sure, Israel and Iran have their odd little taboos, but not mentioning this American hypocrisy probably won't be felt to be taboo when the time comes.
MvGuy
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Yes..Eppie again..!! I'm with eppie on this. I love Justin, but for me this is all blah…blah…blah…
I include the "O" initative for a nuclear free ME. Pray tell, how EXACTLY does "O" plan to EXTRICATE the nukes from the country that won't even admit they have them… Sheer wishful thinking and WORSE… AND "O" only days ago releases the new "posture" review…….."We CAN nuke Iran" How can any observer of the ME put ANY credence in such hokey..????? It is like some serial KILLER finding Jesus hours before sentencing… Will finding Jesus cause him to foresware any more snuffs ?? Maybe he will only choke a few teens, but only on the week ends…. It is the NEW him..!! Israel has gone beyond the pale, They are occupying the land of THREE countries by force of ARMS…. Murdering and starving the people whose land they steal and continue to steal EVERY DAY…. All their guns and bombs are the tools they use to further their ONGOING thefts and aggressions……And hold that land they have stolen already in defiance of the U.N. and international law.. If they had to give back what they have stolen there would be no there..there. No polite talk is gonna get the tooth paste BACK into the tube….
guest
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:54 am
Israel will never give up it's nuclear arsenal.It murdered an American President to get them.If the U.S. wants to get rid of Israeli nukes,it will have to invade Israel to do it.
GnomeDigest
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Israel will never give up their nukes. I think the antiwar movement would be wasting its time fighting for that. Withdrawels from Iraq, Afghanistan, and ending our bombing campaigns in Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen should at the top of the agenda. Achieving those results are unlikely, but at least within the realm of possibility.
GnomeDigest
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Israel will never give up their nukes. I think the antiwar movement would be wasting its time fighting for that. Withdrawels from Iraq, Afghanistan, and ending our bombing campaigns in Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen should at the top of the agenda. Achieving those results are unlikely, but at least within the realm of possibility.
GnomeDigest
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Israel will never give up their nukes. I think the antiwar movement would be wasting its time fighting for that. Withdrawels from Iraq, Afghanistan, and ending our bombing campaigns in Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen should at the top of the agenda. Achieving those results are unlikely, but at least within the realm of possibility.
mickperry
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:48 pm
I know how absurd it sounds eppie, and if I would have been told a few years back that one day I would be finding common ground with the likes of Petraeus I would have laughed out loud. But something is happening out there, check Lawrence Wilkerson by way of another example. These are military men who have now had nearly nine years of the taste of war, and maybe like Eisenhower and others before them, are beginning to understand it's abject futility and moral bankruptcy. So far as Iran goes, we've been waging war on them since 2005, or haven't you noticed?
mickperry
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:01 pm
That's why I log on these days Johnny. Try it and you'll find that your comment gets recorded on your account, even when it doesn't appear in the forum. If you access it via your account, sometimes it gets belatedly posted. Curiouser and curiouser, and no, there doesn't seem to be any logic behind which comments are allowed, and which are not.
sherban
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:10 pm
It is a very good article,and it marks the main danger which exists today for entire humanity:it's Avigdor Lieberman and many like him in the fanatical Israel and not Ahmadinejad who is described by a propaganda machine as the new Hitler.So the NPT which Israel and US direct towards Iran will be a farce,
John
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Let us make things very simple.
A nuclear free world or zone in the Middle East is not possible so long as the US maintains an overwhelming CONVENTIONAL military machine and shows the willingness to use it whenever and wherever it can.
In this situation nuclear weapons are inevitable since they are the poor man's deterrent. If you were the leader of a threatened nation like Iran, would you not have an obligation to develop a nuclear deterrent to the forces of Empire?
john
Lloyd G.
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:01 am
Unfortunately, if the Obama administration's new attitude toward Israel is genuine, it makes it an Israeli first strike more likely. The Israelis know that if they hit Iran, an overwhelming majority in Congress will support them (and the press will go berzerk), and will thus force Obama into committing the US military following any Iranian counter-attack.
Miles Gloriosus
May 3rd, 2010 at 5:08 pm
FTA: " – the president must now uphold his oath of office to protect and defend the United States – not Israel – first and last. "
I did NOT vote for Obama (and I most certainly didn't waste my vote on McCain). but if he visibly stands up for US interests first and against the demands of the Israeli lobby, at this point I can easily envision myself voting for him in 2012.
I was once a staunch supporter of Israel, but now, looking at Israel's entire history and at Zionism, which was her midwife, I now see how very bad for the United States our unquestioned support of Isreal has been.
humanist
May 3rd, 2010 at 5:42 pm
a good article, lots of good info and more
humanist
May 3rd, 2010 at 5:42 pm
a good article, lots of good info and more
epppie
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:49 am
You know, I just cannot believe that this level of naivete in the antiwar movement is sincere. I just can't.
You can't possibly not know that egypt and the US and israel are all players on the same team. You can't not see that this latest maneuver is more kabuki designed to push Iran more and more against the wall. Are we truly this stupid, that we can't see past a headfake and a double fake and the double double fake? This isn't, as they used to say, 'rocket science'. It's commonsense.
Iran has been putting up a surprisingly strong self defense using international institutions. The issue of Israel and the NPT are central to that defense, and they resonate internationally and here in the US. The US and Israel and Egypt are trying to neutralize what Iran is doing, and they are trying to turn it back on Iran, trying to use it to increase the global consent and – most crucially – the US consent to war.
When your opponent is trying to fake you out, watch their center of gravity. Understand who they are and what they want. Stop hoping and start knowing what you already know. The game afoot here has NOTHING to do with any real pushback against Israel. As Wesley Clark told us years ago, but we didn't need him to tell us, the eyes of the enemies of peace are on Iran, and have been on Iran for a long time. Not because Iran matters, but because the independence from Empire that Iran represents, the idea that there might be another way, matters.
Wake up. Time to stop being delusional.
epppie
May 3rd, 2010 at 10:49 am
You know, I just cannot believe that this level of naivete in the antiwar movement is sincere. I just can't.
You can't possibly not know that egypt and the US and israel are all players on the same team. You can't not see that this latest maneuver is more kabuki designed to push Iran more and more against the wall. Are we truly this stupid, that we can't see past a headfake and a double fake and the double double fake? This isn't, as they used to say, 'rocket science'. It's commonsense.
Iran has been putting up a surprisingly strong self defense using international institutions. The issue of Israel and the NPT are central to that defense, and they resonate internationally and here in the US. The US and Israel and Egypt are trying to neutralize what Iran is doing, and they are trying to turn it back on Iran, trying to use it to increase the global consent and – most crucially – the US consent to war.
When your opponent is trying to fake you out, watch their center of gravity. Understand who they are and what they want. Stop hoping and start knowing what you already know. The game afoot here has NOTHING to do with any real pushback against Israel. As Wesley Clark told us years ago, but we didn't need him to tell us, the eyes of the enemies of peace are on Iran, and have been on Iran for a long time. Not because Iran matters, but because the independence from Empire that Iran represents, the idea that there might be another way, matters.
Wake up. Time to stop being delusional.
Jim
May 3rd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Indeed a good article although a little naive. If the US cant even get Israel to stop building a few settlements, do you think it's possible to force these Israelis -who think they own the US President together with his whole country- to give up their nuclear weapons? Actually, Israel had already foreseen this happening, and they built their nuclear arsenal precisely for the day in which the US would tell them, "This is it". Except that now with 600 nuclear-tipped missiles, they do not need to obey anybody and they can send anybody -including the US- to hell, literally. As for the "crazed" North Koreans or the Iranian President, the Israelis are even more irrational. The US will find this soon.
Jim
May 3rd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Indeed a good article although a little naive. If the US cant even get Israel to stop building a few settlements, do you think it's possible to force these Israelis -who think they own the US President together with his whole country- to give up their nuclear weapons? Actually, Israel had already foreseen this happening, and they built their nuclear arsenal precisely for the day in which the US would tell them, "This is it". Except that now with 600 nuclear-tipped missiles, they do not need to obey anybody and they can send anybody -including the US- to hell, literally. As for the "crazed" North Koreans or the Iranian President, the Israelis are even more irrational. The US will find this soon.
Johnny in Wi.
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:08 am
I posted a comment hours ago. When I pressed the submit comment feature I was told that this comment would have to be approved by the administrator. I don't know why this is? My comment was on point and civil. What have I done wrong?
Rolando
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Did we have the right in 1946 to nuke the Soviets so they wouldn't develop nuclear arms? Did we have the right in the 1990s to nuke Pakistan for the same reason? What makes Iran so special? Is it because of our 51st state (Israel)?
Rolando
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Did we have the right in 1946 to nuke the Soviets so they wouldn't develop nuclear arms? Did we have the right in the 1990s to nuke Pakistan for the same reason? What makes Iran so special? Is it because of our 51st state (Israel)?
Rolando
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Did we have the right in 1946 to nuke the Soviets so they wouldn't develop nuclear arms? Did we have the right in the 1990s to nuke Pakistan for the same reason? What makes Iran so special? Is it because of our 51st state (Israel)?
Donna
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:57 pm
The "peace movement" is another one of those things that we all pretend exists, but really doesn't. At least, not in a single whole. How do we reconcile pro- and anti-war people on the left? Or deal with progressives who still insist on defending "Israel's right to defend itself"? There is no single movement that encompasses an environmental, anti-war, and anti-Israeli occupation perspective. The left, progressives, or whatever you want to call them, are split and ineffective.
Bene_Tleilax
May 3rd, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Raimondo, WTF are you smoking?
Israel has nukes for one reason and one reason only: as a Threat to Europe and a Threat to Russia. You think Israel could have achieved nukes all by themselves??? Not fucking likely. A puny little sh*thole in the middle of fucking nowhere with next to NO fucking "assets" of their own??? Puhleez.
Israel is the USA's fall back position: once the US economy tanks and hyperinflation sets in, the US will do what ALL empires before it have done: declare war on it's CREDITORS – China, Russia, the stool pigeons in Qatar, Saud, Egypt, etc, and those who REFUSE to suck the empire's kneecaps: Iran, Venezuela, Brazil, etc.
Israel is actually very lucky that my name is not Putin or Medvedev: if it were, I would have launched a several hundred megatons into "Israel" and the US a long freaking time ago – and saved the world a whole lot of heart-ache and trouble.
jeff.davis
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:27 pm
The Palestinians in particular and the Arabs and Muslims in general have been objecting and fighting back since the very beginning of this criminality, a justified defensive struggle which has been branded "terrorism"; branded terrorism because "terrorism" equals "evil", equals "no discussion is necessary", equals "move right along, nothing to see here".
There is however plenty to see. And until it is seen — in particular by Americans — all the talk amounts to little more than political posturing, ie looking to get reelected by telling the right lies.
Continued
RodW
May 3rd, 2010 at 12:49 pm
It's probably past the time when America can tell nuclear powers and would-be nuclear powers to forego their hard-won weapons when everybody knows America will demand the right to keep a few by for a rainy day. To be sure, Israel and Iran have their odd little taboos, but not mentioning this American hypocrisy probably won't be felt to be taboo when the time comes.
mickperry
May 3rd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Would that be General Wesley Clark epppie? Speaking truth to power?
MvGuy
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Yaa, " as the U.S. seeks to prevent Iran from derailing a month-long U.N. conference on nuclear nonproliferation that begins Monday. "
How does the U.S. plan to STOP the alleged derailing of the upcoming NPT MEETING..?? Oh, the U.S. under fearless 'O'…. "will equitably address weapons proliferation across the region"… This is only TALK as the DEVIL will be in the DETAILS.. which [of course] are to be negotiated… Worse than lies it's fluff!!
How can ANYONE think there is anything to it, Its like a three year old's promise to buy MOM a cruise ship…
abiman
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:55 pm
For some explicable reason , I dont beleive this adminsitartion when it comes even remotely to issues involving Israel and Iran.
a liberal
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Perhaps a movement which is both anti-war and green is to exclusive. Perhaps you will find the remainder of your antiwar movement across the aisle and beyond the left-right paradigm altogether.
sherban
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:10 pm
It is a very good article,and it marks the main danger which exists today for entire humanity:it's Avigdor Lieberman and many like him in the fanatical Israel and not Ahmadinejad who is described by a propaganda machine as the new Hitler.So the NPT which Israel and US direct towards Iran will be a farce,
John
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Let us make things very simple.
A nuclear free world or zone in the Middle East is not possible so long as the US maintains an overwhelming CONVENTIONAL military machine and shows the willingness to use it whenever and wherever it can.
In this situation nuclear weapons are inevitable since they are the poor man's deterrent. If you were the leader of a threatened nation like Iran, would you not have an obligation to develop a nuclear deterrent to the forces of Empire?
john
jeff_davis
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Indeed, that mirrors my experience. I was a supporter of Israel. Why not? I'm Jewish, and Israel is good people engaged in a difficult struggle, right? Well, after 911, I was having a chat with a Russian emigre (Jewish) friend when it dawned on me that I actually knew very little about he history of how Israel came to be. So I went on line and found "The Hidden History of Zionism" by Ralph Schoenmann. Whoa!! Opened my eyes. I recommend it to anyone who wants to know the reality rather than the mythology.
MoT
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:24 pm
This, as has been stated above, is pure political Kabuki. Sound and fury signifying nothing. It reminds me of the faux-news about Goldman Sachs and how they are so in "trouble". Really? Remind me in a year or two about that and we'll see if it isn't all fish wrap and cage liner in no time.
humanist
May 3rd, 2010 at 5:39 pm
epppie I believe you have a rational, clear and convincing understanding of the War and Peace issues.
Recently I’m finding there was NO FRAUD in the Iranian June 2009 election. This is a colossal important and very consequential finding.
It is mind boggling how the data of American TFT and WPO, the British (GlobeScan) poll , the University of Tehran polls and results by the Iranian Interior Ministry are matching so closely such that the deviations from the average of these polls establishes a very very small margin of error.
There are other convincing and credible data proving the election was legitimate.
It seems Iranian regime digitized all the ballots and challenged the West to find a single mismatch. Amazingly this was not reported by the media….and understandingly no one took the challenge.
Please write a book, like a few others expose gross lies and the dangerous psychopathic warmongers
Rolando
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Did we have the right in 1946 to nuke the Soviets so they wouldn't develop nuclear arms? Did we have the right in the 1990s to nuke Pakistan for the same reason? What makes Iran so special? Is it because of our 51st state (Israel)?
Rolando
May 3rd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Did we have the right in 1946 to nuke the Soviets so they wouldn't develop nuclear arms? Did we have the right in the 1990s to nuke Pakistan for the same reason? What makes Iran so special? Is it because of our 51st state (Israel)?
brd
May 4th, 2010 at 2:30 am
I have a feeling that this is not going to end well.
But I could be wrong
BD
Bianca
May 4th, 2010 at 3:22 am
I am sorry, but I have lost the energy trying to figure how to help Obama. To get the grassroots to focus on this stinker? It all looks like the cronies from Egypt are enlisted to come up with the angelic, high-minded proposal to toss the monkey off their shoulder, and hopefully the monkey will land someplace. It may help other vampires of the Empire get their talking points. The hope is that the half-dead Egyptian public opinion may give praises to Mubarak (in his dreams) for his "bold" action. Can't stop few housing projects, never mind a nuclear arsenal. Obama knows what silence means. He has lost more than he knows.
Sam
May 4th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Typical anti-Jewish comment. The "guest" accuses Israel of killing JFL. The proof? He offers none.
Bene_Tleilax
May 4th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
A Hebrew University professor Martin Van Crevel has said, Israel's nukes are aimed at Europe – should Europe protests at the coming forcible banishment of all non-Jews, in particular, Palestinians from the Occupied State of Palestine.
Secondly, Israel serves US purposes as a launch pad for a forseen attack on Russia – and ANY Euro country that does not play along.
Those are the "facts on the ground". Everything else, "peace talks" included are just so much mumbo-jumbo.
Dread-ridden
May 4th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
We need an "anti-Israel-lobby" lobby, with lots and lots of money, and backed by supporters as passionate as the pro-Israel partisans who currently hold sway over Congress. Until we have that anti-Israel-lobby lobby, nothing will change.
And what's that I hear you saying, pro-Israel people? You say that such a movement could degenerate into something rather worse? Well gee, you should have thought of that decades ago, when you began building a monstrous pro-Israel political machine that may now only be stopped by another monster.
Dread-ridden
May 4th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
We need an "anti-Israel-lobby" lobby, with lots and lots of money, and backed by supporters as passionate as the pro-Israel partisans who currently hold sway over Congress. Until we have that anti-Israel-lobby lobby, nothing will change.
And what's that I hear you saying, pro-Israel people? You say that such a movement could degenerate into something rather worse? Well gee, you should have thought of that decades ago, when you began building a monstrous pro-Israel political machine that may now only be stopped by another monster.
Dread-ridden
May 4th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
We need an "anti-Israel-lobby" lobby, with lots and lots of money, and backed by supporters as passionate as the pro-Israel partisans who currently hold sway over Congress. Until we have that anti-Israel-lobby lobby, nothing will change.
And what's that I hear you saying, pro-Israel people? You say that such a movement could degenerate into something rather worse? Well gee, you should have thought of that decades ago, when you began building a monstrous pro-Israel political machine that may now only be stopped by another monster.
OMOP
May 4th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Mr. Raimondo must live on a different planet than most. What "Breakthrough" and where is the realism?
The President of a nation of 310 million American citizens does not get any respectful response to his requests on settlements from a state that the taxpayers of America support but expects to get a state like Iran with whom we have been at odds for over 3 decades to acquse to our demands?
This is indeed a bizarro world.. Ms. Clinton and the AIPAC cabal condemn and threaten a state that is yet to be proven is workinb on ONE nublear device and has never voiced any statements about a state that everyone in the world knows has at aminimu over 200 nuclear war heads.
Whats the view like from Moscow, Beijingm Mambai and other world centers about this REALIST BREAK TRHOUGH? WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE VIEW IS FROM DC AND TEL AVIV.
OMOP
May 4th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Mr. Raimondo must live on a different planet than most. What "Breakthrough" and where is the realism?
The President of a nation of 310 million American citizens does not get any respectful response to his requests on settlements from a state that the taxpayers of America support but expects to get a state like Iran with whom we have been at odds for over 3 decades to acquse to our demands?
This is indeed a bizarro world.. Ms. Clinton and the AIPAC cabal condemn and threaten a state that is yet to be proven is workinb on ONE nublear device and has never voiced any statements about a state that everyone in the world knows has at aminimu over 200 nuclear war heads.
Whats the view like from Moscow, Beijingm Mambai and other world centers about this REALIST BREAK TRHOUGH? WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE VIEW IS FROM DC AND TEL AVIV.
OMOP
May 4th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Mr. Raimondo must live on a different planet than most. What "Breakthrough" and where is the realism?
The President of a nation of 310 million American citizens does not get any respectful response to his requests on settlements from a state that the taxpayers of America support but expects to get a state like Iran with whom we have been at odds for over 3 decades to acquse to our demands?
This is indeed a bizarro world.. Ms. Clinton and the AIPAC cabal condemn and threaten a state that is yet to be proven is workinb on ONE nublear device and has never voiced any statements about a state that everyone in the world knows has at aminimu over 200 nuclear war heads.
Whats the view like from Moscow, Beijingm Mambai and other world centers about this REALIST BREAK TRHOUGH? WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE VIEW IS FROM DC AND TEL AVIV.
OMOP
May 4th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Mr. Raimondo must live on a different planet than most. What "Breakthrough" and where is the realism?
The President of a nation of 310 million American citizens does not get any respectful response to his requests on settlements from a state that the taxpayers of America support but expects to get a state like Iran with whom we have been at odds for over 3 decades to acquse to our demands?
This is indeed a bizarro world.. Ms. Clinton and the AIPAC cabal condemn and threaten a state that is yet to be proven is workinb on ONE nublear device and has never voiced any statements about a state that everyone in the world knows has at aminimu over 200 nuclear war heads.
Whats the view like from Moscow, Beijingm Mambai and other world centers about this REALIST BREAK TRHOUGH? WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE VIEW IS FROM DC AND TEL AVIV.
Nelson_2008
May 4th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
The "U.S. government" always engages in some kind of pathetic moral posturing before attacking another victim country. Words are cheap, and people who need and want to be deceived, are even cheaper.
There's an easy way to stop Israel, i.e., to delegitimize it as a sovereign state: investigate 9/11. Why won't Obama do it? Why won't antiwar.com even mention the subject?
Nelson_2008
May 4th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
The "U.S. government" always engages in some kind of pathetic moral posturing before attacking another victim country. Words are cheap, and people who need and want to be deceived, are even cheaper.
There's an easy way to stop Israel, i.e., to delegitimize it as a sovereign state: investigate 9/11. Why won't Obama do it? Why won't antiwar.com even mention the subject?
Nelson_2008
May 4th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
The "U.S. government" always engages in some kind of pathetic moral posturing before attacking another victim country. Words are cheap, and people who need and want to be deceived, are even cheaper.
There's an easy way to stop Israel, i.e., to delegitimize it as a sovereign state: investigate 9/11. Why won't Obama do it? Why won't antiwar.com even mention the subject?
Nelson_2008
May 4th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
The "U.S. government" always engages in some kind of pathetic moral posturing before attacking another victim country. Words are cheap, and people who need and want to be deceived, are even cheaper.
There's an easy way to stop Israel, i.e., to delegitimize it as a sovereign state: investigate 9/11. Why won't Obama do it? Why won't antiwar.com even mention the subject?
Ground_Control
May 4th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Maybe it would be biting the hand that feeds it? I don't know – we are living in "Bizarro – world".
Ground_Control
May 4th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Maybe it would be biting the hand that feeds it? I don't know – we are living in "Bizarro – world".
Ground_Control
May 4th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Maybe it would be biting the hand that feeds it? I don't know – we are living in "Bizarro – world".
Dianne Foster
May 4th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
I just watched a BBC interview with Ehud Barak hours after the initial 9/11 attacks. With his face screwed into a bulldog look of determination he said that the time for action had arrived, that talking was over, it was time to attack several mideastern countries he said were state sponsors of the act. "Sentence first, verdict afterwards. Off with their heads!" Seeing this meant that an advantage passed to him, in that what would have seemed arrant nonsense became official policy. Knowing and experience counted for nothing, ideology everything. We are still living in that age, and even though the proponents of that sort of thing are not at the top of the power structure, they do know what levers to push to knock the present on off balance should they choose to do so. The hatred of Obama in certain circles (as in Israel) rivals that against George Bush in other enclaves (those on the receiving end of the bombs, for instance). Two eyes for an eye tooth is still big in plenty of places, and the Bronze Age lives on, only this time You are There! Yes, the American eagle flies in all senses of the phrase, and it is starting to look like a plucked chicken hanging in a butcher's window.
OMOP
May 4th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Mr. Raimondo must live on a different planet than most. What "Breakthrough" and where is the realism?
The President of a nation of 310 million American citizens does not get any respectful response to his requests on settlements from a state that the taxpayers of America support but expects to get a state like Iran with whom we have been at odds for over 3 decades to acquse to our demands?
This is indeed a bizarro world.. Ms. Clinton and the AIPAC cabal condemn and threaten a state that is yet to be proven is workinb on ONE nublear device and has never voiced any statements about a state that everyone in the world knows has at aminimu over 200 nuclear war heads.
Whats the view like from Moscow, Beijingm Mambai and other world centers about this REALIST BREAK TRHOUGH? WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE VIEW IS FROM DC AND TEL AVIV.