If Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s speech to the AIPAC conference isn’t a reason for the US to declare – finally – that they’ve had quite enough of the "special relationship," then nothing is. After ambushing the Vice President of the United States with an announcement that new "settlements" are in the works, the Prime Minister then took his anti-American jihad to the enemy’s very gates, in Washington, D.C., where he invoked what Cato policy analyst Justin Logan trenchantly described as "the fallacy of ’39":
"Seventy-five years ago, many leaders around the world put their heads in the sand. Untold millions died in the war that followed. Ultimately, two of history’s greatest leaders helped turn the tide.
"Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Winston Churchill helped save the world. But they were too late to save six million of my own people. The future of the Jewish state can never depend on the goodwill of even the greatest of men. Israel must always reserve the right to defend itself."
It’s always 1939 for Israel’s amen corner, and the Holocaust is always invoked as justification for whatever atrocities they’re whitewashing at the moment, but, really, one has to ask, if the Israelis are so damned independent-minded, why don’t they start "defending" their state all by their lonesome selves? That means we can pull the billions we send them – both economic "stimulus" and military aid, not to mention generous loan guarantees – or, better, yet, let the Israelis send those billions back. Then we’ll see how much actual substance is behind all the bluster, the boasting, the heroic posturing – exactly nil.
Referring to Iran’s alleged nuclear weapons program, Netanyahu averred that "Today an unprecedented threat to humanity looms large." Unprecedented? Really? Yet he’s old enough to remember the cold war well, a time when the Soviet Union and the United States faced off in a nuclear stalemate that nearly erupted into a hot war. Has he forgotten? I doubt it.
The Soviet Union possessed thousands of nukes: Iran, on the other hand, has yet to produce a single nuclear weapon, and, according to our CIA, they abandoned their nukes program in 2003. While they could restart at any time, presumably – albeit not without encountering the technical problems that seem to perpetually bedevil them – this is hardly the equivalent of the US-USSR nuclear standoff.
Yet we’re quite used to the hyperbolic language the Israelis routinely employ to describe the threats – real and imagined – faced by the Jewish state. To hear them tell it, a reincarnated Hitler is fiendishly planning a replay of the Holocaust, and the "existential" threat to Israel is imminent and unstoppable except through acts of war (sanctions, regime change, military action).
If this is true, and if Israel can only depend on itself for its defense, then what is holding the Israelis back? Why don’t they attack Iran on their own?
They don’t do it because they are completely dependent on the US, and such an attack would not only endanger US troops in Iraq but also plunge the entire Middle East into a war that would decimate American interests in the region and signal the end of the "special relationship" – a relationship based on mutual trust and understanding. That trust would be gone if the Israelis went after Iran without a green light from Washington – and the Israelis, who know what side their bread is buttered on (and who’s paying for the butter), would much prefer that someone else fight their battles. After all, it’s a strategy that’s worked so far.
Contra Netanyahu, the Israeli survival strategy has been the complete opposite of defiant independence and military self-sufficiency: they have been joined at the hip to the US military machine since the Reagan years, and they depend on us to keep their socialist economy from falling apart at the seams.
In return for such unusual generosity, Netanyahu and his fellow ultra-nationalists of the Likud party and its extremist allies are spitting in our faces, very publicly humiliating our public officials, and launching an all-out political attack on the interests of the very country they depend on for their survival.
This goes way beyond mere ingratitude – it indicates a very large gap between the values of the givers and those of the takers.
We hear much about the common aims and culture of the US and Israel, the mutual commitment to "democracy," and the many links that tie our two nations together,. Yet all this is suddenly swept aside when the characteristically Middle Eastern touchiness and hysteria of the Israelis is provoked – and it takes very little to provoke them.
As the Israeli Prime Minister put it in his speech: "Nothing is rarer in the Middle East than tolerance for the beliefs of others." Even rarer, however, is Israeli tolerance for the interests of their American patrons: we are expected to self-sacrificially put Israel first. American presidents have gone along with it for decades – and so no one should be surprised when they pull a stunt like the Biden ambush.
The Israelis are like spoiled children who’ve been coddled and indulged way beyond the limits of reason. If they don’t get what they want the outcry is deafening – and their agents and apologists are numerous, vocal, and well-placed enough in the US to make quite a bit of noise.
Senators McCain and Lieberman likened the dispute between Washington and Tel Aviv to a "family quarrel," and advanced the view that the dispute should never have become public. Aside from the fact that it was the Israelis who went public by blind-siding Biden, isn’t it long past time to apply a little "tough love" to our adopted child in the Promised Land – and maybe even cut off his allowance if he persists in what can only be described as the equivalent of juvenile delinquency?
As it stands now, the US is subsidizing and supporting the expansion of the Jewish state at the expense of the Palestinians, while Israel is doing its best to drag us into a war with Iran, and ignite the whole region. The ensuing chaos would give cover to complete the goal of the extremist Likud-far right alliance: the establishment of a "Greater Israel."
This is a mission the United States should have nothing to do with, and the Obama administration knows it. Their response to Israeli intransigence is a good first step, but in order to make it stick they must go beyond mere rhetoric. The Israeli government can’t build settlements if we stop paying for them: they can’t threaten their neighbors, oppress an entire people, and maintain a working alliance with the West unless it’s with our active cooperation. Cut off their funding – and see how quickly they’ll turn, because they know their survival is at stake.
Read more by Justin Raimondo
- The ‘Cairo 19′ Got What They Deserve – February 9th, 2012
- Our Bloodstained Hands – February 7th, 2012
- The Syrian Crucible – February 5th, 2012
- Can Ron Paul Be Tamed? – February 2nd, 2012
- Iraq in Retrospect – January 31st, 2012





David G
March 24th, 2010 at 4:16 am
Justin, Israel won't be abandoned by America because Israel is one of the M.E. nations that America needs to continue with its own imperialism.
Sadly, Israel will one day bite the hand that feeds it!
Jerr-Berlin
March 24th, 2010 at 4:22 am
Justin,
You're absolutely correct.
LES
March 24th, 2010 at 4:48 am
As a former Christian Zionist, my views on Israel changed after reading
“What Price Israel?” (1953) by Alfred Lilienthal, a Jewish-American
and “The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy” by John Mearshimer and Stephen Walt.
Christian and Jewish Zionists believe that modern Israel is entitled to all the land God promised to Abraham from the Nile River to the Euphrates River (Genesis 15:18-21). Take a good look at the "Greater Israel" map that Justin provided.
Israel’s former Prime Minister Menachem Begin was quoted by Rev. Jerry Falwell to the effect that the Bible predicts the Israeli state will eventually include portions of Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Sudan, Lebanon, Jordan, and Kuwait.
Really? Is that why the Muslims hate us?
tolemo
March 24th, 2010 at 6:18 am
Support our troops?!!
http://www.goodfellow.af.mil/shared/media/photodb…
Johnny in Wi.
March 24th, 2010 at 6:39 am
Support our troops cut off aid to Israel and bring our troops home. The axis of evil is the ADL, AIPAC, ACLU, SPLC and the CFR.
Alan T
March 24th, 2010 at 6:52 am
Wouldn't it be great if America did, in fact, cut off subsidies to its spoiled daughter?
Ah, to dream …
ZionismIsRacism
March 24th, 2010 at 6:54 am
we dont need israel for ANYTHING. they are purely leeches and it is a complete one sided arrangement. don't act like israel is the "victim" they nurture that false image all on their own. israel is NOT the puppet but most certainly the puppet master. we pay for their wars, we pay for their expansion, we FIGHT their wars and get killed and maimed to neutralize non-existant threats to their existance. they constantly spit in our faces, tell us its raining and the only response we can muster is "please sir, may i have another"
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Craig Jones
March 24th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Raimondo calls it exactly right as usual!
bogi666
March 24th, 2010 at 11:25 am
The USG aid to Israel is $1000 per year for each Israeli which enables the Israeli government to provide SOICIALIZED MEDICINE to Israeli's. Meanwhile, the American taxpayers protest against the USG providing health insurance, not even health care, for themselves. This proves that Americans are brainwashed by propaganda to the point of being gullible, ignorant and illiterate that they don't even know what is in their own best iinterest and don't even complain about the USG providing aid for Israel to have SOCIALIZED MEDICINE THERE.
epppie
March 24th, 2010 at 11:26 am
I agree with most of this article, and I particularly appreciate that this is the first public statement I have seen anywhere by any pundit suggesting that the real reason Israel wants this Iran war has nothing to do with Iran and everything to do with establishing Greater Israel once the war is started, leaving Iran to the US and concentrating the IDF's efforts against Lebanon, the West Bank and Gaza. Why are most US commentators so afraid to connect the dots? It's clear beyond sensible doubt that Israel doesn't want peace. and that it fully intends to swallow up the West Bank and probably Gaza as well, and Israel's ceaseless threats against Lebanon and Syria indicate that it has ambitions in those directions as well. Come on, people, stop listening to what the 'statespersons' say and recognize the logic of what they do.
But in that regard, isn't it long past time to recognize the logic implicit in US actions in Central Asia? Surely it's impossible not to see that the goal there has nothing to do with Terra – continuing to occupy the Middle East gives terrorists endless recruiting material, anyone can see that – and everything to do with Imperial geopolitical ambitions, the delicate relationship between US-centric currency and global military dominance, etc. etc.? And see, when we look at things from that perspective, it's quite easy to see why the US is every bit as intent on attacking Iran as Israel is.
See, when we speculate whether the tail is wagging the dog, we always seem to forget to ask the obvious question: what if they are wagging EACH OTHER?!!
The main reason often given to defend the conventional position that the US doesn't want to attack Iran and won't, is that we are 'overextended'. But we need to be able to see around the corner a little bit. The US is only 'overextended' under restraints that force it to show some regard, however insincere and often breached, for civilian safety. Oh they chafe and chafe against restraints, and of course the affect of our actions on civilian safety has been devestating, but still – it's not exactly war without mercy. Given a war with Iran, those constraints would automatically loosen quite a bit, which would automatically 'force-multiply'. Does anyone really think that the US public would be squeamish about US tactics in the case of a larger war with Iran?
I"m not privy to the considerations of the US High Command, of course, but I think we can quite safely assume that they believe, notwithstanding anything Mullen says, that in the context of a war with Iran, they would be able to apply US military power more 'efficiently'. No more pussyfooting around. Just a matter of acquiring targets and unloading sheer hell.
People, we are no longer dealing with the America that we knew, or thought we knew. We are dealing with a full-on global Empire now, and that context changes the meaning of everything, changes what is possible, changes what seems inevitable (to those in power). The Empire must maintain its global death grip, or it will crumble. And those who can only imagine a world determined by global Anglo Empire cannot imagine the End of Empire as anything other than catastrophe.
epppie
March 24th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Years ago, a friend of mine invited me to a concert given by a Jewish choral group she belonged to. The concert was of Israeli music, and was given in a majestic classical hall, with soaring tones and emotions; it was quite a beautiful event. But at the very end, something weird happened. Well, I thought it was weird, but no one else seemed to notice. From the stage, they asked us all to stand, in deference, while they performed the Israeli national anthem. I waited for them to announce the US national anthem as well. As a hockey fan, I understood the idea of playing two national anthems and standing for both. But this was different. The US national anthem was never played, yet everyone in the audience stood at attention for the Israeli national anthem. I couldn't understand. WHY WOULD WE STAND AT ATTENTION FOR ANOTHER NATION'S NATIONAL ANTHEM WITHOUT OUR OWN BEING PLAYED?
It took me a long time to understand what I experienced that day – that many Americans have strangely confused loyalties over Israel. As an Irish American, I could partially understand this. Back in the day, IRA sympathies led many in the American Irish community to have conflicted loyalties, but even so, it was hard for me to imagine Americans standing at attention for the Irish National Anthem alone at a major public event. I suppose that must have happened, though I never experienced it.
I've wondered since then if I just hallucinated and maybe the US anthem was played and I just missed it or didn't remember it. But more and more it's become clear that a lot of Americans need to rethink about Israel, need to clarify their loyalties. Yes, it's fine to support Israel. Hardly anyone questions that. But when support becomes conflicted loyalty, then there is a serious problem. Most of us would recognize this issue if we could just talk about it honestly and openly, without dreading the accusations of 'anti-semite'.
jojo
March 24th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Bravo Justin!
A meaningfull Sept11/01 attack investigation,would reveal ]sreal Firsters did it. Quick End ,the relationship with the spoiled daughter.
Note: Not only USA shells out billion$ but also does Canada, UK, France, Germany, Austrilia ect.Here in Canada unrecorded vast amounts of money is sent by income tax dedictions.
Check out CBC 1992 Documentrary called Canada Park Israel
We keep hearing that }sreal sells billion4 of military weapons and runs numerous government communication security companies–and still not enough :^/
John
March 24th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
The other item to consider here is China. The bases in Central Asia are meant to devastate and control Muslim lands (Israel's objective) and to encircle China with bases and threaten its energy supplies (US's objective). It is not just that the US wants to make money from the energy resources of Central Asia but to control them as part of world hegemony. It appears that China with a GDP now equal to one-third of the US has come too far for the US elite and a campaign to stop it in its tracks is now underway – wars and propaganda campaigns (eg. Google and currency "manipulation," the latter called absurd even by the editorial page of the WSJ.)
Nelson_2008
March 24th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Why are you against investigating what happened on 09/11/2001? 9/11 Truth is the end of Israel.
MvGuy
March 24th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
America's No.1 Welfare Queen has become more than ever disagreeable and indolent. However, what is one to expect from one's Dominatrix…. Her endless never met expectations are evidence of just how special she is, AND if we grovel properly she will allow us to continue the relationship… After all, she is not just another trick… she is the one chosen by G-d…. and your service to her will improve your chances to avoid the fiery stink of that other place… Just think of it this way, your contributions to HER are really, actually, gifts to G-d! ! Now that you have become aware of the facts and your place, you must behave and stop complaining.
zouppie
March 24th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Try to find one Congressman to sponsor a bill to modestly cut aid to Israel . Such an act would ensure that person never held elected office again. They would never be allowed to make the career move to lobbyist, where the real money is, and they would forever be tainted with the label anti-Semite. The United States is owned and run by those concerned in advancing the perceived interest of world Jewry. That is why we will soon be involved into yet another war. This time with Iran. Of course, Israel will continue to treat us with the contempt a country ruled by groveling toadies so richly deserves.
Base
March 24th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
You are so exactly correct about both objectives. It is as clear as the nose on your face if you just look for 1 second.
Base
March 24th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Tip o'Neil said 'All politics is local'. This is true of Israel as well. They have a socialist economy with free health care, subsidized education, great infrastructure, etc. This would not be sustainable if they had to fund it all themselves. Fortunately they do not – we are happy to continue to fund Israel even as we go bankrupt here at home.
However if we did indeed pull the plug (which will never happen) the Israelis that are not hard-core fundamentalists will start to question if pissing off their benefactor is worth the cost (losing the comfortable lives they used to have).
We give Israel MUCH more than $3B US per year. That is what we know of. However we subsidize their military to the tune of ? (who knows how much? It is a secret) Then there is the diplomatic cover we give in the international community. Potential loss of trade agreements, etc etc.
The loss of the $, plus the loss of the cover, plus the fact that they dont have big brother standing behind them, menacing any potential foe, is a pretty steep cost and would likely bring Israel to its senses.
Of course this is just fiction – the US will never pull the plug. Our government is bought and paid for.
MvGuy
March 24th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Utopia, since money is fungible, the aid IS employed to "buy" our representatives… AND!!!… It's the media (stupid us).. The welfare allows these purchases… Gresham's law "Bad money drives out good" or put another way, corrupt $$$$$ drives out honest $$$$$$….. The propaganda power of media is only valuable to those who NEED it… So a newspaper is worth MORE to those with sinister motives.. When they get free money too, it's a no brainer…BUY!!! P.S. Again, it's the fault of US, not them…
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Duglarri
March 24th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
I don't think anyone would dare to cut aid, but Mr. O doesn't have to, I don't think; all he has to do is quietly let it be known that the diplomatic cover is gone. How long would it take before a resolution was in front of the General Assembly to do something painful, like cut off their banks? Or how about letting it be known that the US would not be unhappy if Spain unleashed that judge? That the US wouldn't mind seeing Tipi arrested on her next trip to London?
I don't think Israel has to worry about losing it's funding. But they should be terrified about losing everything else the US does for them, because Obama can kick those supports out from under Israel instantly, quietly, and with a heaping dose of plausible deniability.
Jaime
March 24th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
What I read here is the perception that everything American citizenry does is hopeless. I can understand US elites are bought or worse, but can the people be so pessimistic? You can start by calling your Congressmen and DEMAND a change in their treacherous record vis-à-vis Israel interests. You can also start spreading the truth for everybody to see: start with your relatives and friends. Weren't many of you equally blind at some point in the past?
Gera Rosy
March 24th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
What Mecca is to Muslims, Israel is to Jews.
Miles Gloriosus
March 24th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
The special relationship we "enjoy" with Israel is simply that of host and parasite.
Nothing more, nothing less, and more and more Americans are starting to see it.
charley caruso
March 24th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
The terms 'Greater Israel' and 'Lebensraum' mean the same thing.
Keep up the pressure, Antiwar and Counterpunch,, the dike is beginning to crumble.
The next settlements will be on the Jersey Shore.
And why is Obummer meeting with Bibi?
Didnt he hear his speech to that spy organization AIPAC?
You cant fool all the people . . . as old Abe said.
I mean Lincoln, not Foxman, who's been fooling the dumb Americans for 60 years
Miles Gloriosus
March 24th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
I am a conservative. I didn't vote for Obama (and I certainly didn't vote for McCain). But, all other things being equal, if he stands up to Israel and tells them our interests come first in this country and to stop jeopardizing them, I could very well vote for him in 2012. Really.
Wouldn't it be ironic if Obama were to lose the support of American Jews but replace them by his appeal to new-found supporters from "middle" America?
tolemo
March 24th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
I have done as you say and pointed out the obvious Israeli corrupting of our politicians, the spying,the deliberate targeting of our military, the human rights violations……But most of my fellow Americans have been well trained.. like Pavlov's dog…the response?… "Anti-Semite!"…"A-Rab terrorist sympathizer!" …"Muslims are evil!"…Trying to plead the case to a Congressman is just as bad. An automated form letter is all you will get in return to anything you contact them for. Then you will be bombarded with recorded messages from that congressman forevermore asking for political donations!
pwi
March 24th, 2010 at 11:54 am
I guess my only question is what if Israel does not react the way you think they will? Cut off an errant child and if they continue to run amok or even decided to become worse, what then? Call the cops on them? Who are the cops? The UN? Ha!
And who is going to go war over the Palestinians? Israel has its own weapons industry and on other items, well Arms Embargo's can be gotten around. Somebody will sell them some of the extra's they need.
This, like the belief in Ron Paul seems more like a hope rather than a legitimate policy goal.
What was the article you linked to that said the $3billion was about 2% of the GDP of Israel? And the rest of the $ "loaned" mostly returned to the US in the form of weapons purchasing? It suggested that the US defense industry would not look kindly to such a loss of revenue. and congress would not like to see any job losses in their districts.
UtopiaNow
March 24th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Is there a possibly our aid money is used to buy up our politicians?
How easy would it be for Israel to take the billions of western aid they are given & then pass huge money to "US citizen Zionist business people" (via legitimate "deals") who might then in turn, make huge political party donations to both sides of western politics?
Israel, like other nations, is not to be fully trusted…and it's US citizen "front people & "agents" ought not be in any office as they have an obvious conflict of interest. Likewise if media commentators are Zionists or dual nationals they ought declare it.
Follow the money…. also, why is the privately owned Fed (which seems to be Zionists controlled & also seems to secretly control the IMF & Wold Bank) selling out our western economies (to benefit China et al) with utterly ludicrous policies?
Lastly, why don't the "powers at be" seem to wish to stop illegal drugs & immigration?
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March 24th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
[...] This is a mission the United States should have nothing to do with, and the Obama administration knows it. Their response to Israeli intransigence is a good first step, but in order to make it stick they must go beyond mere rhetoric. The Israeli government can’t build settlements if we stop paying for them: they can’t threaten their neighbors, oppress an entire people, and maintain a working alliance with the West unless it’s with our active cooperation. Cut off their funding – and see how quickly they’ll turn, because they know their survival is at stake.” http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/03/23/stop-funding-the-israelis/ [...]
Joao Alfaiate
March 24th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
When the history of our era is written no one with be able to believe that a tiny country thousands of miles away was able to control the foreign policy of the world's only super power. When you think of the Protocols and what is going on, I guess you'd have to say life is imitating art.
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David G
March 25th, 2010 at 1:19 am
The situation as I see it is that Israel is the world's biggest leech and it's feeding on the world's biggest dinosaur (one trying to resurrect the Roman Empire).
Leeches and dinosaurs have no place in 2010. It's time we disposed of both of them!
Neil
March 25th, 2010 at 2:10 am
Dear Americans, you seem incapable of stopping the Fifth Column take over your country and ridicule it all over the world. You should also be ashamed as you can not defend your beautiful country..
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Bara
March 25th, 2010 at 3:45 am
Every once in a while Israel will screw up and the MSM will write an article or two (usually in opinion sections) critical of Israel's actions, but it's pretty rare and nothing substantial comes of it.
It takes people like Raimondo to get this information out there to the public, and it's thankless work that can close a lot of doors for work in the future. I know when you journalism folks are critical of anything Israel does it seems like you are treated as someone who says they enjoy kicking puppies, but we can't give the Israeli government a free pass because of the Holocaust. We didn't give the Soviets a free pass even though they lost a few people in WWII.
JDonald
March 25th, 2010 at 3:59 am
Israel recieves more gifted money from the USA, the UK and the diaspora donations per capita than the total income of the poorest 100 nations of the world. They have not built their country through hard work but by blackmail. Are they cunning, oh yes. Are the bright, oh yes. They have the world donating to causes that in theory they do not condone. That is brilliant. Stop the flow of money and they will be brought to heal.
Andy
March 25th, 2010 at 5:05 am
The United States "needs" Israel like you need to be diagnosed with terminal cancer David. By the way, Israel has been biting America for many years. Just ask the poor guys on the Liberty.
Ove Larsen
March 25th, 2010 at 6:50 am
When you – as i do – sit here in Europe and read your blog – there is one thing that I don't understand – and that is – how come – that APAIC has so much influence in the American debate – and why it's isn't possible to isolate that organization – and it's members. Is it because there is so much money and influence in APAIC – or is it because there is no single opposition to that organization.
I think it's time – for an analyze from your hand.
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Ground_Control
March 25th, 2010 at 10:13 am
We're not just talking about anyone here. AIPAC, along with numerous other zionist organizations, have bribed, blackmailed, and spied on their host for over a century. One of their most powerful weapons, which they have total control over, is the media.
pwi
March 25th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Money talks in the US. And groups similar to AIPAC hold lots of sway because our politicians (Obama included) can be purchased or nullified for the right price. Many such groups exist. The NRA for guns is another powerful untouchable lobby. Most Pols in the US want to get re-elected and to be showered with the perks of their jobs.
Nelson_2008
March 25th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Ok, the U.S. has "AIPAC", but what's Europe's excuse?
Why is Europe not confronting the U.S. over the Zionist 9/11 false flag operation? Why are Europeans supporting the illegal, immoral Zionist crusades in Iraq and Afghanistan? Why is Europe cheering on the upcoming Zionist war against Iran? Why is Europe going along with the Zionist PNAC plan to ring Russia with missiles?
Zionist Jewry runs the U.S., and the U.S. runs Europe.
Alan MacDonald
March 25th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
The American-style Imperialist Political Action Committee (AIPAC) no more speaks for the vast majority of average 'democracy-thinking', peace-loving, and anti-war Israeli and American Jews, than the Chamber of Commerce/EMPIRE speaks for the vast majority of 'democracy-thinking', average working-class, anti-Empire, anti-corporatist/fascist, and honest small-business progressive Americans!
Both these very similar, stealthy, propagandist, and 'Predator Drone'-style organizations working for the exact same Global corporate/financial/militarist EMPIRE — that infects both 'our' countries like a cancer hiding behind the facade of its MULTI-Party modern 'Vichy' sham of faux democratic governments — represent only death-spiraling "Empire-thinking" and continue to launch 'Hell-Fire Missiles' of lies and deceit against their own citizens.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Andrewp111
March 26th, 2010 at 1:02 am
I have the exact opposite view from Justin. Keeping Israel on the US payroll is the only thing restraining Israel from finishing off its enemies right now. If we cut them off, they would have nothing to lose by launching 50 thermonuclear bombs onto Iran (assuming Israel actually has nuclear bombs – we really don't know that), and expelling all the Palestinians. The ones in Gaza could probably be sent to Stovocor by bombardment with napalm and thermobarics, and the ones in the West Bank could be forced to march to Lebanon after Israel has flattened all of Southern Lebanon. Cutting off Israel's funds might be the surest way to set the Middle East ablaze.
Perhaps that is Obama's plan. Perhaps he wants to engineer a separation of Israel from the US so that Israel can finish off its enemies and the US doesn't get blamed.
Andrewp111
March 26th, 2010 at 1:06 am
Yeah, and that would give Israel even less reason to restrain themselves. If Obama does as you suggest, they might as well go all in and wipe out their enemies while they still can.
Andrewp111
March 26th, 2010 at 1:07 am
I wouldn't be so sure of this. You make a lot of assumptions.
Andrewp111
March 26th, 2010 at 1:09 am
There is no evidence for this. However, there is some evidence that Israel may have been following the hijackers, and might have known what they were planning.
Andrewp111
March 26th, 2010 at 1:13 am
I think you underestimate the willingness of Israel to endure some temporary economic hardship in exchange for being able to wipe their enemies out once and for all.
Obama is capable of cutting them off, and if he made a stand on this issue, the Congress would grumble, but would in the end side with Obama.
Walter
March 26th, 2010 at 5:43 am
I agree the United States must cut aid to Israel.
I agree with Israel when it comes to dealing with Iran, reality trumps everything, so when Amad preaches "wiping them (Israel) off the map", I only ask, what would you do ?
Odd as it is, Israel gets the rockets and sirens to take cover constantly, yet Palestine & Lebanon are in shambles BUT no sirens or daily rockets.
Time for Israel to get their hands dirty, very dirty.
Stop Funding the Israelis
March 26th, 2010 at 4:30 am
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Byron
March 27th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Take you head out of you ass Raimondo.
Mark Bernadiner
March 28th, 2010 at 5:28 am
Who “palestinians” are: a gang of genetic thieves who stole ethnicity, history, land, and natural resources; murderers who killed thousands of Americans, Europeans, and Israelis; and pathological liars. They have close ties to Hitler, Nazi and SS; invented and implemented ethnic cleansing for thousands of years and Holocaust in 1920s-30s-40s.
“Palestinians” have no place in human society, that is why no muslim country would like to have them.
Who abbas is: a fake president of the fake and never existed country and for fake-ethnicity people; genetic thief, pathological liar and murderer; KGB puppet; Nazi and SS descendent; Holocaust denyer.
Mark Bernadiner
March 28th, 2010 at 5:47 am
You live on the land and use natural resources stolen from American Indians. You exterminated almost entire Indian population and put the rest in concentration camps, which you, for your personal phycological comfort, call "reservations". According to Internatinal Law and even American Law, you are thieves and murderes. Unlike you, Israel liberating her own land stolen over 2000 years ago. Justin Raimondo and you are pathological liars, profoundly ignorant idiots, islamofascist prostitutes, and your education and knowledge do not fit credible high school requirements.
Mark Bernadiner
March 28th, 2010 at 5:37 am
JDonald, you are liar. Obama's administration provides annually $1B to Abbas and, thus, hamas, violating US Law. Obama's administration is abbas puppet, bows every and each his demand, launchs a proxy political war on Israel on bahalf of global islamofascism, and became a gang of islamofascist prostitutes. This understandable, having in mind Obama's muslim bckground and education and 20+ years of brainwashing in anti-American anti-Semitic church, as well as his islamofascist friend from American universities whom he promised to create islamofascist state on Israel land and eliminate the State of Israel.
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April 2nd, 2010 at 5:06 pm
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ZionismIsRacism
April 4th, 2010 at 1:36 am
doubtful i could never see all the bought and paid for "representatives" in congress or the senate ever siding for american interests.
ZionismIsRacism
April 4th, 2010 at 1:37 am
there is mountains of evidence implicating israel. see the movie all roads lead to israel and it explains it in vigorous detail from start to finish and leaves you without a doubt who was behind that attack, and who benefitted the most from it.
ZionismIsRacism
April 4th, 2010 at 1:44 am
Hey newflash megaphoney shill bag there isn't one shred of archaeological evidence to support your outlandish and completely 100% unsubstantiated claim that "israel" belonged to jews 2000 years ago. there is no god, and if there actually was he wouldnt be a real estate agent and certainly wouldnt promise land to a bunch of racist zio-nazis.
ZionismIsRacism
April 4th, 2010 at 1:54 am
HOLOCAUST ANTI-SEMITE. god you israeli first zionist apologists have NO NEW ARGUMENTS EVER. There is nothing that will ever justify your treatment of the palestinians. They had NOTHING to do with the holocaust waving that card around and screaming at the top of your lungs doesnt work anymore. find some new REAL AND CONVINCING arguments that israel is a good "country" and worth defending.
ZionismIsRacism
April 4th, 2010 at 1:34 am
In other news water is wet and the sky appears blue (technically its not, but it clearly appears that way) thank you for your fantastic grasp of the obvious.
either way that has nothing to do with the zionists treatment of palestinians (and practically anyone that isnt a jew)
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