Who Will Protest Obama’s War?
Libertarian youth must take the lead
Here we are on the verge of a momentous announcement – President Obama’s unveiling of his "comprehensive plan" for escalating the war in Afghanistan – and where is the so-called antiwar movement? Missing in action, as this news report reveals:
“‘There’s this trust that he’s going to fix it all,’ said Shara Esbenshade, 19, a sophomore at Stanford University and member of Stanford Says No To War. She says there are no antiwar marches on her campus, only vigils, educational events, and occasional protests against Condoleezza Rice, who has returned to Stanford after serving as George W. Bush’s secretary of state. ‘We’d really like to start doing more about Afghanistan,’ she added. ‘But students here rising up? I really don’t see that happening.’"
No need to ask who "he" is: it’s the Dear Leader, of course, the Big O: He Who Can Fix Anything. Well, I’ve got some really, really bad news for you, Shara, honey: he is getting ready to send somewhere between 30,000 and 40,000 more troops to the Afghan front, and not only that, but he’s come up with a brand-new strategy, one that means they’ll be sending a lot more troops that way pretty damned soon.
What it boils down to is this: saying no to war entails saying no to Obama – and I have the distinct feeling that, forced to make a choice between their ostensibly antiwar sentiments and their devotion to the Dear Leader, Shara and her privileged, politically correct friends will reflexively choose the latter. Indeed, they already have, which is why Stanford Says No to War is lazing around, only stirring itself when a Republican rolls into view. But for how much longer can they rank on Condi Rice, who may indeed be a reprehensible warmonger but has, since the end of her tenure at State, been rendered relatively harmless?
Oh, but it’s too easy to go after a clueless 19-year-old: after all, why should it fall on Shara’s fragile shoulders to challenge the dominant political orthodoxy? Why blame her for the unlikelihood of her fellow students "rising up" anytime soon?
Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems Ms. Esbenshade and her confreres are generally on the Left, and what’s left of the Left has a political conflict of interest when it comes to opposing U.S. military intervention overseas, as the above-cited article makes all too sadly clear:
"Mounting economic and academic pressures on today’s youth, intimidation by authorities, online distractions, and conflicted views about the ‘good’ war in Afghanistan, not to mention other causes such as health care and slashed school budgets clawing for attention, have conspired to snuff out antiwar activism on campus, experts and students say.
"They acknowledge, too, that U.S. President Barack Obama has paradoxically hampered the movement because many of the largely leftist protest groups haven’t wanted to openly oppose him so early in his first term."
Intimidation by authorities? Really? Will their professors give them a failing grade if they go out in the streets with signs proclaiming "Stop Obama’s War"? You’d think we were living in China, where all expressions of dissent are illegal and an unauthorized demonstration can earn you a free trip to the gulag. Yet even if there were indeed some real intimidation, then wouldn’t that in itself provoke a wave of defiant protest – as it has, say, in Iran?
No, this is excuse-making: the piece is closer to the truth with its invocation of "the good war" as a phrase that meaningfully relates to Afghanistan. As we begin to hear more and more about the potential goodness of this war – e.g., from feminists, such as Code Pink, who have now decided that withdrawal from Afghanistan would not be good for the cause of equal pay for equal work – we begin to hear more about the war’s potential usefulness in advancing the Obamaite big-government agenda. Here’s Matt Yglesias, over at the Center for American Progress – the epicenter of Obama worship – musing over the prospect of a "war surtax":
"I’d like to see Paul Krugman or other advocates of more stimulus weigh-in on whether debt-financed escalation of military effort would have a beneficial impact on the labor market situation. I think it’s deplorable that U.S. political culture tends to regard military-related appropriations as exempt from normal budgetary considerations, but it’s possible that that’s a loophole worth taking advantage of in this case. All those new weapons purchases the Pentagon doesn’t want to estimate are manufacturing jobs for someone, right? Obviously this shouldn’t the primary consideration in dictating military strategy, but I do think a comprehensive look at the macroeconomic impact of defense policy choices – both the costs and benefits of hugely expensively military undertakings – is a necessary element of the strategic consideration."
How to balance the costs of the Afghan war – the thousands of Afghan and American lives lost, the horrific destruction wreaked on Afghan society, the screams of the horribly wounded, and the tears of mourners – against what Yglesias and his fellow Keynesians imagine will be the "benefits" of spending all that government moolah and doling it out to their political allies and corporate patrons?
These soulless policy wonks may believe this kind of calculus has no moral import, but for the rest of the human race the profoundly immoral and frankly repulsive nature of this arithmetical exercise is readily apparent. Yglesias himself has criticized our policy in Afghanistan and is skeptical of plans to escalate the conflict, yet he unhesitatingly unpacks the doctrine of military Keynesianism in order to advance his big-government agenda. He may think this is harmless, but as John T. Flynn presciently pointed out as World War II was ending:
"The great and glamorous industry is here – the industry of militarism. And when the war is ended the country is going to be asked if it seriously wishes to demobilize an industry that can employ so many men, create so much national income when the nation is faced with the probability of vast unemployment in industry. All the well-known arguments, used so long and so successfully in Europe … will be dusted off – America with her high purposes of world regeneration must have the power to back up her magnificent ideals; America cannot afford to grow soft, and the Army and Navy must be continued on a vast scale to toughen the moral and physical sinews of our youth; America dare not live in a world of gangsters and aggressors without keeping her full power mustered … and above and below and all around these sentiments will be the sinister allurement of the perpetuation of the great industry which can never know a depression because it will have but one customer – the American government to whose pocket there is no bottom."
The economic benefits Yglesias points to, however, come with some strings attached. As Flynn accurately predicted:
"Embarked … upon a career of militarism, we shall, like every other country, have to find the means when the war ends of obtaining the consent of the people to the burdens that go along with the blessings it confers upon its favored groups and regions. Powerful resistance to it will always be active, and the effective means of combating this resistance will have to be found. Inevitably, having surrendered to militarism as an economic device, we will do what other countries have done: we will keep alive the fears of our people of the aggressive ambitions of other countries and we will ourselves embark upon imperialistic enterprises of our own."
Keynesian militarism means a foreign policy shaped by a constant propaganda of fear. In order to justify outsized military spending, it is necessary to conjure threats of comparable stature, but once we take this path, there is no return to normalcy. For our own economic normalcy will come more and more to depend on generating a constant stream of foreign crises and an ever ready supply of enemies who cannot be safely ignored.
There are, in the long run, no net benefits to be had from the policy of military Keynesianism: our debt-driven military buildup can only end in bankruptcy and universal ruin. Yes, in the short run, certain workers and employers do indeed derive benefits from our foreign policy of unrelenting aggression, but their "jobs" are not in any sense productive: indeed, they are engaged in the "business" of wholesale destruction – of human lives and resources – so while their "work" benefits them, it hurts the rest of us immeasurably.
Of course, the Keynesians will have none of this. They believe that if the government pays us to build pyramids, blows up the finished product, and pays us to rebuild them, then they’re "kick-starting" the economy. So why not start a world war – wouldn’t that deliver a swift kick to our stubbornly mulish economy and save the Obamaites’ rapidly sinking political fortunes?
Well, because that would be morally indefensible, now wouldn’t it? Yet that is precisely what the administration is getting ready to do, as the announcement of Obama’s Afghan "surge" looms closer. The president won’t argue that the war will be good for the economy; he’ll leave that dirty job to his proxies over at the Center for American Progress, who, if they do good work, just might get invited to the latest "must attend" White House event.
All in all, we face a depressing prospect: the Left brain-dead with Obama idolatry, the Right neoconized beyond redemption – and no one left to oppose a futile, draining, and horrifically destructive conflict, a war we cannot afford and which directly contravenes our real interests as a nation.
No one, that is, except a clear majority of the American people, who, according to polls, think the battle for Afghanistan is not worth it. Here is a clear instance in which ordinary, everyday Americans are radically out of sync with partisan activists of both the Right and the Left – thus creating a huge opening for libertarians, particularly the campus arm of the movement..
The premier libertarian youth organization, Young Americans for Liberty (YAL), is the fastest-growing political group on campus, these days, and no task would suit them better than assuming the leadership of the moribund, leftist-dominated antiwar movement. As Obama’s zombie-like cult follows him down the road to war – a war on a scale the much-reviled Bush administration never dared attempt – YAL can fill the vacuum, swell its own ranks, and, more importantly, dramatize the moral and political bankruptcy of the current administration, while drawing a clear and very dramatic line of demarcation between libertarians and Sean Hannity-type conservatives..
I have my issues with the organized libertarian movement, such as it is, and I have never endorsed any organization. YAL, however, is a different story: born out of the surge in libertarian activism generated by the Ron Paul campaign, it exemplifies the same staunch anti-imperialism married to (and derived from) a hard-core libertarian economic perspective. What I love about Rep. Paul is his obvious delight in mixing in denunciations of Obama’s domestic boondoggles with his informed and trenchant opposition to our global empire-building project.
If we’d only give up the empire, Paul averred during his presidential campaign, the savings would give us the resources to repair our decaying infrastructure, fund healthcare, and ameliorate a good many of the ills liberals say need fixing. Rather than do that, however, liberal Democratic members of Congress want to impose a war surtax and make us pay for the war on top of all the other nonsense.
Liberalism, in its modern incarnation, is intellectually bankrupt, and has been for quite some time, but it took the ascension to power of a decidedly liberal administration to highlight the demise of its moral authority. Young people looking for a comprehensive view of life, a principled perspective on the events shaping their world, are not going to find it in the cost-benefit analyses of dried-up Washington policy wonks who balance the economic "benefits" of mass murder against the weight of the dead.
Nor will they find it in the cynical pontifications of neoconservative militarists, who think they can pursue a "freedom agenda" while supporting a foreign policy that requires a huge and highly centralized federal Leviathan, one that eats up a good portion of the national income.
Libertarianism alone represents a coherent alternative to the tired, worn-out ideologies of the Right and the Left, and the war issue can underline this uniqueness like no other. If any organization has the spirit, and the numbers, to attempt this, it is YAL: growing by leaps and bounds, springing up on campuses coast to coast, its principled opposition to overseas intervention is exemplary.
Don’t wait for the sleepy-eyed Left to wake from its slumber. That may be a long time coming. If there are other groups on campus you can work with, fine, but libertarians must take the initiative – not only to make political gains, but because it is a moral imperative that we act.
Don’t be taken in by the "no one cares" meme, which invariably pops up in journalistic accounts of how the antiwar movement is in the doldrums. There is a populist anger out there that is easily attached to any issue, whether it be healthcare or the Afghan war. The "tea parties" showed us that.
Don’t wait for lightning to strike. You can start a prairie fire all on your own. The sagebrush is dry, and the weather is amenable: what’s needed is a spark. Has anybody got a match?
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Read more by Justin Raimondo
- The Orange Revolution, Peeled – February 7th, 2010
- Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell — Don’t Go – February 4th, 2010
- Who Was That Well-Dressed Man? – February 2nd, 2010
- Will the Dragon Awake? – January 31st, 2010
- The State of the Empire – January 28th, 2010





Shara
November 25th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Dear Justin Raimondo,
Thanks for this article. A friend pointed me to it having seen my quote from the AFP article being singled out here. I am Shara Esbenshade, the girl you address in your piece, and wanted to clear up the fact that myself and those in Stanford Says No to War are and have been tirelessly advocating AGAINST this blind trust in Obama to end the wars. There is a growing movement on the left and among student activists to oppose Obama on his imperialistic prowar policies, as I have been urging people to do since the campaign season before his election. Stanford University is unfortunately dominated by a mentality that is uncritical of the status quo, and that observation is what I was discussing with Michael Mathes of the AFP as well as this new complacent attitude that Obama has ironically brought about among formerly antiwar youth. I agree with your analysis of the dismal state of the antiwar movement, but I know that the left is rebuilding itself. The first step at places like Stanford, however, is education. The reason students are not rising up, in my opinion, is because there is a total lack of education or truth surrounding the reality of war in Afghanistan. We are protesting and we are organizing, but the time for mass protest on campus can come only with awareness and politicization of the student body at large.
Shara Esbenshade
Shaun
November 25th, 2009 at 10:37 am
There are sincere antiwar factions in significant numbers on both the left and right wing sides of the political spectrum. I say weed out the hypocritical "humanitarian" interventionists of the left and the warmongering kooks on the right and form a solid, sincerely antiwar coalition out of what's left from both right and left. Because neither antiwar Liberals nor antiwar Libertarians stand a chance facing down the War Party as individual groups. And time is running out.
DMinor7th
November 25th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
The mote in the eye of another versus the log in one's own: Libertarians will never be effective at anything they profess because they are blinded by the worship of the corporation. Corporatism has a profound logic of it's own and none of the self-serving gibberish of the "Austrians" etc will ever make so much as a dent in the imperial structure.
Jane Doe
November 25th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Or when there's a draft.
The_Orlonater
November 25th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Matt Yglesias is only an authoritarian neo-Utopian nanny-statist.
Alan MacDonald
November 25th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Justin you are correct: "What's the Matter with Kansas" is also the matter with Massachusetts and California — both rube mid-American conservatives and "wicked smart" bi-coastal liberals have been duped by the very same bipartisan EMPIRE.
Obama's speech and his 'supposed' decision about Afghanistan will reveal far more than the war strategy in Afghanistan. For those who watch with careful eyes it will reveal EMPIRE.
The decision will be voiced through the mouth of Obama to be sure — but the decision was already made before he was president, in fact before he even ran, and the decision itself was made by the EMPIRE.
America, our country, is now part of an arrogant, unresponsive, un-democratic, but quite sophisticated 'Vichy' Empire —- which only pretends to allow the people to have any influence over any choices, directly, or through their supposed representative government.
This fact of sophisticated and guileful Empire manipulation and trickery of the people was well documented in 1994 by Thomas Frank in his "What's the Matter with Kansas" — showing how contrived social 'values' manipulation was used by the Empire-controlled 'Republican Party' to trick stereotypical anti-intellectual conservative Kansans into voting against their own interests.
But now the coin has been flipped, and we need Frank to write a new book, "What’s the Matter with Massachusetts" in which he would lay bare how the Empire-controlled 'Democratic Party' tricked stereotypical self-described liberal “wicked smart” Bostonians and supposedly highly educated intellectuals into voting for a second well educated (and now post-racial) president promising different 'values', but singing the same songs about "Don't stop thinking about tomorrow" and waving banners of 'hope' and 'change' — which have now been ignored with the same level of contempt and impunity as the last several Empire-controlled Republican and Democratic shills — who did exactly NOTHING they promised!.
When such obvious contradictions to a government structure of supposed democracy occur many times in a row, but with both supposedly different political parties, and with differing levels of sophistication employed to fool dull and bright voters, the issue is not 'values' but one of deep 'government structure'. And the only conclusion to be made is that we are dealing with a deep and deadly problem of ‘government structure’, which Ben Franklin would have immediately recognized as his fear of Empire supplanting a democratic Republic.
"The problem is not with our stars, Dear citizens, nor with this Obama, nor the previous Clinton nor Bush nor Reagan, nor even with ourselves, but with EMPIRE”
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
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November 25th, 2009 at 10:34 am
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Who Will Protest Obama’s War? « ANU News.net
November 25th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
[...] Keynesian militarism means a foreign policy shaped by a constant propaganda of fear. In order to justify outsized military spending, it is necessary to conjure threats of comparable stature, but once we take this path, there is no return to normalcy. For our own economic normalcy will come more and more to depend on generating a constant stream of foreign crises and an ever ready supply of enemies who cannot be safely ignored. There are, in the long run, no net benefits to be had from the policy of military Keynesianism: our debt-driven military buildup can only end in bankruptcy and universal ruin. Yes, in the short run, certain workers and employers do indeed derive benefits from our foreign policy of unrelenting aggression, but their “jobs” are not in any sense productive: indeed, they are engaged in the “business” of wholesale destruction – of human lives and resources – so while their “work” benefits them, it hurts the rest of us immeasurably. http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/11/24/who-will-protest-obamas-war/ [...]
MonsieurGonzo
November 25th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
«The Western workingman has been asked to share the spoils of exploiting [Muslim peoples]. It is no longer simply the merchant prince, or the aristocratic monopoly, or even the employing class, that is exploiting the world: It is the nation; a new democratic nation composed of united labour and capital.» – W.E.B. DuBois (May, 1915) «American capitalism needs an international rivalry ~ and periodic war ~ to create an international community of interest between rich and poor. In the midst of severe recession, President [Barack Obama], who had promised that the U.S. would [unwind the foreign occupations and domestic war economy], would find a way to serve the needs of American capital as well as the Allies' imperialism.»
Peter Werbe
November 25th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
The left is mobilizing in Detroit against Obama's escalation. See http://www.peterwerbe.com. But certainly anyone of any persuasion is welcome to attend.
Lester_Ness
November 26th, 2009 at 12:36 am
There's a Left in America???
Harry Siitonen
November 26th, 2009 at 3:31 am
There is also a libertarian left rising to oppose all this chicanery of empire. Seems like there are anarchists popping up all over in reaction to the disillusionment over Obama's "hope" campaign. And the anarchists unlike the libertarian right aren't fooled by capitalism, either, of which Obama is also a political instrument. Both state and capitalist corporation are based on hierarchy and domination by the few over the many who are always on the short end of the stick. Kropotkin lives!
Ed from Columbia U.
November 26th, 2009 at 3:52 am
When IBM stole (in the biblical sense) the retirement pension and retirement medical from all IBM US employees only about one in one thousand had the courage to speak-up. I would guess the rate of self preservation is about the same in the population at large. So out of about 6500 Stanford undergrads I would expect about 6 or 7 to speak-up. That seems to be about what the article reports.
Prof.hothoneywater
November 26th, 2009 at 4:12 am
Good article. But are you referring to Obama & company as the "decidedly liberal administration" that has ascended to power? Obama and his policies are no more "liberal" than W.Bush's policies were "conservative." Those ideological labels have been commandeered to cover the corrupt behavior of what are nothing more than corporate shills who use trickery to continue the looting/enslavement of America, and the world. Old-timey liberals and conservatives wouldn't recognize or sanction the destructive and deeply non-patriotic actions of today's so-called "leaders."
As for Obama (who I was dumb enough to vote for after voting Nader in 2000 & 2004), the power structure got just what it wanted: a front-man whose occupation of the White House very neatly de-clawed both the anti-war & social-equality movements. No matter how bad things get, many of O's supporters are never going to criticize him because they don't want to seem racist. I've concluded that O is in the process of showing that just because one is from a minority group, one is not necessarily truly compassionate or courageous.
conumishu
November 26th, 2009 at 5:35 am
What's left of America ?
Carl
November 26th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Why treat a student who's paying some attention so condescendingly? How do you know she's politically correct? How do you know she's not at Stanford on a scholarship and working to keep herself afloat? Pick a real target. The one's who are scheming to get ahead in a system they take as a given, applying the "selfishness is a virtue" principle so dear to the libertarian chest cavity.
IceTrey
November 26th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Shara says "the left is rebuilding itself". Into what? The Republicans? The Left is in power. They control both Houses and the Presidency. You can't be in a rebuilding phase when you are the party in power. You have to govern. Go to You tube and look at Obama's campaign speeches where he says he'll get out of Afghanistan immediately, no doubt about it. You've been duped. Obama is the same as Bush. Put in power by actors hiding behind the curtain to do their bidding. WAKE UP!
Emilyrose
November 26th, 2009 at 10:38 am
I am not sure I would agree that 'empire' tells us much at all.
I would suggest that we are in the thrall of a small group with unquenchable lust for power, insatiable greed and a ruthlessness that makes previous would be world dictators, such as Napoleon and Hitler, hardly out of Kindergarten.
These people have a grip on power right throughout the West with hardly an exception, maintained by powerful propaganda and the stupidly of the masses who refuse to look outside of a political box.
Who are held in the political fold by the 'fear factor' – a fear that 'the other side' may win. A stupidity as the 'other side' is exactly the mirror image of your own. No difference.
Emilyrose
November 26th, 2009 at 10:39 am
If we look for the motive of NATO and Zionist mass slaughter, not only of muslims, forget not the slaughter and destruction of the christian Serbs, it boils down, at this point of time, to a few words. Drugs, oil and pipelines matched only by greed.
Torture, mass murder , ethnic cleansing, poverty and wanton destruction matter not a jot in pursuit of endless wealth and power by the few. As more and more are realizing, protest is not enough. Only civil disobedience and revolution will kill the beast.
Will it happen – I wish?
jim
November 26th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
When you have enough money to go to Stanford, it is a certainty that serving in the military is the last thing on your mind. That is for the commoners. The only reason these elitists join anti-war groups is to hang out and look good, as it is all about image baby.
The Messiah at best has mediocre intellect, is a drug addict, and sometimes prefers men, particularly if they are communists like Frank Marshall Davis. The media portrays the Messiah as a brilliant writer (Ayers) and great orator (teleprompter) with strong Christian values ("God damn America"), and the brain washed college kids eat it up. It makes them feel superior morally in addition to their families' wealth.
Have a niece who goes to college, and asked her last year who she would vote for. "Obama", she immediately replied. Asked her if she ever heard of the CFR and she went blank. Asked her another question, but her elitist mother scurried her out the door quickly.
The principle reason why we have non-ending wars, outsourcing of manufacturing and encouragement of immigration, massive theft by the banks, and moral degeneracy is most people that attend college cannot think for themselves. They go in as brain washed idiots, and come out even worse! After that, they would say that the grass is red if their masters tell them it is.
bob klinck
November 26th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Libertarianism is a pipe-dream as long as the issuance of money remains in the hands of a monopoly.
guest
November 27th, 2009 at 3:40 am
I think you meant get out of Iraq immediately. Obama's only promise about Afghanistan was that he would "re-focus" the military effort there.
Rand
November 27th, 2009 at 4:43 am
Our daughter was involved with antiwar groups at her university but thats all over now. Its hopeless, really. The media – and not just Fox News – make such a big deal of covering the "teaparty movement" even though its funded by corporations and any time they interview a member, he/she so clearly doesn't even know what their gripe is. The antiwar demonstrators got no such respect and they were right about the war. Its hopeless. We give up and discourage our daughter from involvement (and she had concluded for herself earlier this year that it was a waste of time). Obama's decision to escalate this war is cowardice. History will be as hard on him as on Bush and Cheney & Co.
Anonymous
November 27th, 2009 at 5:54 am
Why would leftists be anti-war? Leftist tyrants like Hitler (national socialist), Stalin (communist), Mao (communist), Kim Il Sung (communist), Ho Chi Min (communist), Castro (communist), and Pol Pot (communist) were certainly NOT anti-war.
When will Mr. Raimondo see the light? The American leftists aren't anti-war, just anti-Bush and anti-American.
Does Mr. Raimondo really expect the same people who worship the almighty State and want to control your healthcare and your CO2 emissions (all in the name of "saving the Earth" of course) to oppose war when THEIR fellow leftist-statists are in charge?
The American leftists were anti-war during WWII… until Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union and then suddenly they became pro-war almost overnight. Did Mr. Raimondo forget that?
Jay H.
November 27th, 2009 at 1:38 am
Democrats are in power, and they are not "the left", as the removal of anything resembling real national health care was declared 'off the table' in advance by the administration. Mr. Raimondo & these old conservatives hold feverishly to the myths about the left that they ingested as young reactionaries, and as the patronizing dismissal of Ms. Esebenshade as "honey" demonstrates, there's not much prospect of bringing them into contact with a world beyond the old boy net.
MoT
November 27th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Hard on BushCo? That's like listening to Forrest Gump when he says he got a "million dollar wound" but hadn't seen a penny of it yet. You'll never see any "change" with the crew of criminals ensconced at 1600 Penn and the rest of those rats on the hill and you can bank worthless cash money that Obama, i.e. Bush 2 with a deep tan, won't rock the boat. So, yes, better to prepare and protect yourselves from the inevitable.
MoT
November 27th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Bingo!
MoT
November 27th, 2009 at 10:41 am
The "education system" isn't designed to help anyone actually learn anything. It is designed to churn out goose stepping, boot licking, "degreed" cogs for the military/industrial machine. Oh, they may THINK they understand the world but they know nothing. Anyone who gets out without being brain damaged through indoctrination is a miracle in the flesh. My hat goes off to them.
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bogi666
November 27th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
I have to take issue with Justin's remark about Obushama being decidedly liberal. I don't think so, he didn't run as a liberal he ran as a corporatist. Ron Paul and his libertarian ilk have some fanciful notion that if corporations weren't regulated and the wealthy not taxed they wouldn't be corrupt and/or feed at the public trough. The CORPORATE WELFARE KINGS and the wealthy are the only socialists in the USA, they like it that way and won't give it up for the public good. The fact of the matter is that Federal taxes are doled out to the CORPORATE, WEALTHY WELFARE KINGS which derive most of the benefits of tax monies.
Alan MacDonald
November 27th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Justin, you ask, "Who Will Protest Obama’s War?"
And the answer is that nobody should protest Obama's escalation of war in Afghanistan — if Obama does his typical great job of salesmanship next Tuesday night.
IN fact, the rumor is that Obama is going to meld the best of the hopeful 1960's Vietnam anti-war generation with a timeless reprising of cultural and social icons — wrap it all together with the production skills of a Hollywood extravaganza and throw in some lyrical highlights to have everyone dreaming the same dream and sharing the same 'hope'.
The title of his speech will reportedly be: "All I am saying, — is give War a Chance".
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Sean2009
November 28th, 2009 at 6:11 am
As a leftist, I certainly agree with your denunciations of what passes for the "left" in this country. For the most part, modern American liberalism as a political movement and as an ideology bears all the hallmarks of a controlled opposition. When you see the FBI or CIA financing Nazis like Hal Turner, feminazis like Gloria Steinem, or fauxgressive zionazis like Markos Moulitsas, you have to wonder who else they have on the payroll and what their agenda is.
The Left needs a good kick in the ass and you're just the man to do it, but you seem to have an ideological blindspot for your fellow libertarians. Although I have been to the Ron Paul forums and am impressed with the comments by many libertarians there, for the most part, 'net "libertarians" come across as right-wing authoritarians in the political sense as well as having right-wing authoritarian personality types in the psychological sense. They seem to have an instinctive and reflexive deference to power and hierarchy in all its forms, no matter how repressive, just so long as the power is wielded by the market, and not by the people or government.
Let's not forget that it was libertarians and their blind endorsement of unrestrained predatory capitalism that has helped give corporations the power to wrest control of the government and create the corporate state we have now. Corporate statism is fascism. That is what our government is now: a fascist, militaristic police state engineered to protect the interests of the ruling elite. Obama and the Dems are no more "liberal" than Bush and the neocons were "conservative." But these two wings of the fascist uberparty rely heavily on the support of people who fancy themselves genuine liberals and conservatives, and that is a fact that musn't be forgotten. People of all political stripes need to wake up and realize that whatever our political differences are, they are dwarfed by the need to unite together and fight the death and bankruptcy of our country. There is no "lesser evilism" when it comes to the bogus two party system in America. It is all evil and to support the one side of the coin out of fear the other will prevail is as practical at this point as a dog chasing its own tail.
Sean2009
November 28th, 2009 at 6:47 am
I agree with you, Jay. Obama and the Dems are not the "Left" and indeed, Obama has repudiated the idea that he is a liberal or progressive, let alone a genuine leftist. Aside from some mealy-mouthed promises and bromides about hope and change, he never really pretended to be anything but what he is. It was his followers who projected their liberal hopes and dreams onto him.
Let's face the fact that many people who consider themselves liberals supported this guy, and will likely continue to support him no matter what he does. It's like those fanboys who buy an obviously crappy product but insist on defending it rather than admit they've been had. What passes for the Left in this country supports Obama and the Dems, if not out of a genuine faith in their leadership, then out out of a misguided sense that they are the lesser evil and preferable to the Republicans. Republicans, for their part, do the same in reverse, embracing the lunatic idea that Obama is a "socialist" when the only socialism in this country is socialism for the rich.
Attack the System » Blog Archive » Updated News Digest November 29, 2009
November 28th, 2009 at 4:45 am
[...] Who Will Protest Obama’s War? by Justin Raimondo [...]
RobertBrager
November 29th, 2009 at 1:07 am
What "libertarians" are you talking about, mate?
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November 28th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
[...] As President Barack Obama plans to announce his Afghan war strategy on Tuesday, the White House says the US does not intend to stay in Afghanistan for a long time. "We are not going to be there another eight or nine years," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said on Wednesday. AntiWar: White House Eyes Afghan Exit by 2017. War Not Going to Last Forever, Spokesman Assures. Who does Obama think he’s fooling? Nobody. -Nobody except the American people and the Norwegian Nobel Committee. AntiWar: Who Will Protest Obama’s War? [...]
Sean2009
November 29th, 2009 at 5:18 am
I take it from the "mate" bit that you're not an American, but in America, the term "libertarian" means something radically different than it does elsewhere. In the US, "libertarian" refers to right-libertarians who generally favor unrestrained free market capitalism and limited or no government. They feel letting the free market do whatever it likes is the best way to maximize progress and individual liberty. On economic matters they are far to the right of most conservatives. They rigidly refuse to recognize the historical reality that allowing the elite unrestrained power is incompatible with any meaningful conception of individual liberty.
Nadorn85
November 29th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Those corporate powers would be nowhere if it weren't for the government shielding them from competition. The size of government has only exploded in the last century, if there were any 'libertarians' guiding this they weren't very good ones at all.
Doug Carkuff
November 29th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
Nice piece Justin. As a Paultard from way back and a contributor/supporter of Dr. Paul's campaign I have to say that neither the left nor the right speaks for the vast majority of Americans. Most of us see the insanity by which this government functions and feel helpless to do anything about it. We saw our views as incarnated by Dr. Paul belittled and trivialized and pissed on across the board by all the big media. Almost to the point where we were scratching our heads and wondering we're the crazy ones. You get told that enough and maybe you start to believe it. If Dr. Paul runs next time around I'll do all I can to support him. After that, if we don't make headway, I'm buying my 15 acres in the boondocks, putting up a shack and hunkering down. I don't want to be part of this anymore. And, yes, the hypocrisy on the left is just as sickening as the hypocrisy of the neo-cons. We regular Americans are not even part of what's going on. We are just bewildered serfs and by standers waiting for the next insult and injury. Our role in this universe to support the real owners of the world.
MvGuy
November 29th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Shara, Thank You for Your intelligent and insightful comment… Thank you for the time you have spent protesting and becoming aware of "the reality of the war in Afghanistan" I do not see any light or the end of the Afghanistan tunnel.. Again thank you for doing what You can…
MoT
December 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 am
The market doesn't get to do what it should because it is controlled and manipulated to such an extent by vested interests, i.e. aided and abetted by corrupt mercantilist Democrats and Republicans. You mention "historical reality" and you are correct in that statement in that you point out how historically we have what we have because the corrupt have co-opted and twisted what can and does work when left alone. Just like an unfaithful spouse who sleeps around all the while telling you how much you love them. Once confronted with the evidence your dysfunctional other half says, "So what ya gonna do about it… I'm the only game in town". So what ARE you gonna do? Act like the typically abused party and crawl back to be battered again and again (the election cycle) thinking that's "normal" or take action? You can either divorce them (secession) or KILL them (revolution). But you can damn sure not blame them for thinking you're a sucker if you "choose" to submit to them.
Shara
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Dear Jim,
I agree very much with your characterization of the purpose college serves in the united states, especiallyl elite universities such as Stanford. As a stanford student, I see a school that wants to crank out CEOs and political leaders, as well as leading scientists, etc. who can do research for the military, that not only do not think for themselves or question the system but also have learned as well as possible all the ways to justify the oppressive hierarchy they will soon be at the top of. However, although this attitude is the dominant one at stanford, it 1.) does NOT correlate with a student body that is full of rich kids and 2.) it IS being resisted by a significant portion of the students, faculty, and workers in various ways both through organized activist movements and through student subcultures and courses that criticize the status quo and address stanford's role in imposing and maintaining that status quo in the world. Regarding the first point, Stanford, precisely because it is a private university with a lot of money, is able to give students really incredible financial aid. To be honest, I do not know a single student who is not on financial aid, and many have grown up in poverty their entire lives. That being said, the environment at Stanford is indeed very elitist and classist and the dominant mentality here is an upperclass one because that is the social group the majority of students are preparing to join after school, though it may not be where they came from. This is an enormous problem and in this respect I think your analysis is on.
Regarding my second point, it is honestly a little preposterous to suggest that activists at stanford are active solely in order to "look good and feel good about themselves." I have often felt that this is true of many student groups at the school which focus themselves on uncritical and stubbornly apolitical service projects or mild discussion of irrelevant political issues like whether palin or obama had more political experience. And perhaps this desire to have a good image is part of why many stanford democrats or liberals choose to be active. However, this is not true of the antiwar and labor rights movements (which are the only ones i can speak of confidently, having been involved in them since I got to the school). For us who reject mainstream politics (both republican party and democratic party politics, actions, and beliefs), we struggle to make the student body ask itself the tough questions that require self-criticism. We have to struggle against the school to get it to enforce its own labor rights standards. We are few, hardworking, and not exactly popular on campus. This type of work is not rewarded here. It is not embraced and stanford the institution does not pride itself on these activists but rather tries to hide that such activism exists. I know because I know the activists, that we are all personally committed to ending war and oppression and confronting the role in it that our own university plays. It is what we care about and it is intimately tied up, for us, with the very idea of an education. But since you don't know us personally, I thought I would point out that we actually do not benefit from a good image from the organizing work we do. Rather we struggle each day to make the case for why it is necessary to resist this system and why it is a responsibility of ours as students at an elite school to question and to actively oppose the larger system as well as our univesity's role in it and this is regarded as silly or extremist by many here.
Above all, I strongly object to your rejection of universities and colleges as locations for strategic resistance to the system of corporate capitalism, militarization, elite rule, etc. This year in California, students are finally rising up! Yes, it was triggered by their own rising tuition costs, but the protests, strikes, and occupations that students and workers have been organizing at UC's this fall are about something much larger: they are about critiquing a system that places profit and war above education and they are about students retaking their own education and refusing to allow their education to become the machine already exemplified by some schools that produces nonthinking pawns that reproduce this oppression. There is a budding movement of the same type at Stanford, and I believe universities have enormous potential to effect great change.
Sincerely,
Shara (the student quoted rather misleadingly in this piece)