Such a Waste of Fine Infantry
So this platoon comes back to an Afghan village it hasn’t visited in three months. One of the village elders tells the platoon commander, "We ask you not to come here. It is better for us, and better for you." As the platoon leaves the village, the Taliban attack it and a four-hour firefight ensues.
This compelling story, told by a Knight Ridder/Tribune correspondent, perfectly illustrates the futility of the foreign policy course we are pursuing, especially in Afghanistan.
The U.S built a clinic in the village to "demonstrate to Afghans that they have more to gain from the Americans than from the Taliban." Last spring the Taliban blew the clinic up.
The platoon commander takes off his helmet and sunglasses and explains to the village elders that the Taliban have been passing through their village on their way to attack U.S. outposts along the nearby Pech River. "Unless this is stopped, you have to understand that you’ll be getting regular visits from coalition forces," the platoon commander says.
The elders politely tell him to bug off.
The platoon splits into two squads and walks away from the village. The platoon’s Afghan translator asks the journalist if he has a mobile phone. "You should call your loved ones now to say that you care about them," the translator says. "I’m telling you, the walk home from here is not a joke."
The platoon walks about 500 yards out of the village with helicopters patrolling overhead when gunfire sizzles down from the mountainside. Four hours later the fight is over. The platoon thinks they and the helicopters maybe killed five Taliban. There’s no way of knowing how accurate this assessment is. The platoon, thankfully, merely suffers two sprained ankles.
What’s wrong with this picture? Everything.
If the platoon isn’t there, nothing bad happens. If we hadn’t built the clinic, the Taliban wouldn’t have blown it up. If we didn’t have outposts along the Pech River, the Taliban wouldn’t pass through the village to attack them.
Is it any wonder the village elders don’t want the Americans in their village? Is it any wonder Afghans don’t want us in their country?
Our interventionist foreign policy creates many problems and solves few of them. It certainly doesn’t make us more secure. For every Islamo-hooligan we kill or capture we create two or more new ones.
Our policies are strategically foolhardy. They’re tactically imbecilic as well.
A platoon — roughly two-dozen troops — of the best-trained, best-equipped military in history, supported by helicopter gunships, got hung up in a four-hour battle with dudes who probably live in caves. The Americans are running out of ammo. The American helicopters fly in more machine gun bullets and grenades. The Taliban don’t have any helicopters to do that for them, but they don’t run out of ammo. Nearby U.S. bases provide covering artillery fire. The Taliban don’t have any artillery.
"Gradually," the Knight Ridder correspondent says, "the Soldiers made it to safety. The firefight had lasted about four hours. The entire operation, from dawn until the return to base, went on for about seven hours."
This is sorry stuff. This platoon, backed by airpower, didn’t defeat a Taliban ambush. It escaped from it, barely.
What was the point of the platoon’s mission? It went into an Afghan village to act tough and got run out of town by a herd of goat ropers. That sums up our entire Afghanistan experience.
Don’t confuse this firefight with one of those deals where the bad guys are mixed in with the population and Gen. Stan McChrystal’s goofy rules of engagement require our guys to tie both hands behind their backs and box with their chins. This was a straight up fight between our guys and an inferior force, and our guys were lucky to get out of it with mere joint sprains.
It was a case of a tactical situation reflecting the bathos of the strategic mindset. High command sends 20-something-year-old lieutenant and his platoon of teenagers into a village to tell a bunch of old Afghans we’re not happy that the Taliban are passing through their village to attack us.
The platoon leaves town the way it came, through a riverbed surrounded by high ground. The bad guys, who saw them come in, know exactly how to whack them coming out.
Stanley McChrystal wants to put 40,000 or more Americans in this exact same position. As George Patton would say, "Such a waste of fine infantry."
This is a sad patch in American history. We need to get our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan. The Pentagon and its rabid Long War followers don’t want that to happen, and I’m losing faith in President Obama’s ability to stand up to them.
From what one reads, Obama is likely to let his generals put more good infantry into bad terrain on a pointless mission.
Alas.
Read more by Jeff Huber
- Overdue Process – November 19th, 2009
- A Crock of COIN – November 18th, 2009
- Our National Cognitive Dissonance – November 17th, 2009
- Bad Apples – November 16th, 2009
- Reading the Af-Pak Tea Leaves – November 15th, 2009





indian
November 6th, 2009 at 7:13 am
and they want to train and equip 4,00,000 more. now thats optimism.
guest
November 6th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Obama seems to be afraid he'll be a one-termer if he stands up to the generals. If all he cares about is getting re-elected and being thought of fondly by Republicans and neocons we're all doomed.
christian
November 6th, 2009 at 10:04 am
You are the bad guys !
christian
November 6th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Fine infantry ? A bunch of psychopatic murders, as was Gen. Patton ! Islamo-hooligan ? Why can't the US respect other cultures and peoples and international law ? What would the US citizentry think if a lot of armed-to-teeth thugs bombs their cities, shoot their elders, children, women, men and animals, destroys their infrastructure, put a puppet as president, occupy their country and use their country as platform to attack their neighbourgs ? NATO should be disbanded, the occupying forces should leave Afghanistan, and the US and their lackeys should pay huge compensation to the Afghan people.
And attacking with planes and gunships people which are just armed with rifles to defend their country is show of great cowardess.
YOU ARE THE BAD GUYS, COWARDLY BAD GUYS, IN AFGHANISTAN AND EVERYWHERE ELSE YOUR ARMED PSYCHOPATS ARE PRESENT !
christian
November 6th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Obama is a coward and an opportunist (and accessory a war criminal and a foe of humanity), and his role is to validate the neocon policies, american exceptionnalism and the unitary executive.
Obama is the "black friend" every racist has to have. Those who thought that Obama was to change the infamous Bush policies has fooled himself, his campaign was clear: more wars, everywhere.
Danny
November 6th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Incompetence, futile missions or worse inevitably happen whenever there is Imperial hubris coupled with Western political & cultural arrogance. The fantasy American drive for global Full Spectrum Dominance has instead condemned the USA regime to achieve Full Spectrum Debacle in overseas military quagmires, domestic economic bankruptcy, and utter moral degeneration. It's time to cut our losses, withdraw all our military occupiers, and concentrate on rebuilding a more solid home front.
ebquillen
November 6th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Christian, who appears to be a foreigner judging from his fractured English, should spend some time with the fine young men and women that our politicians send into godawful warfighting situations before he starts calling them psychopaths (note spelling Christian). The problem is not the troops but our generals who claim to have read Clausewitz, but they clearly did not understand him, while our political leaders continue to be willing to sacrifice our children for nothing whatsoever. Bring all our soldiers home now!
Jane Doe
November 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I have to take exception to the term "Islamo-hooligans" — we are in their country and we're killing them. They're supposed to lurv us?
If my home were attacked by ANYONE , I'd hand the kids kitchen knives, train my dogs to go for the jugular or the penis, and my cats to scratch their eyes out or wrap themselves around the attackers neck and strangle them, with their claws out.
While I generally like Huber's commentary, this one reeks of American exceptionalism. We are not the good guys in this fight.
Jeff Albertson
November 6th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
I also lack faith that the President can stand up to the war chiefs, but he needs to grow a pair fast, because every choice he has, except a smart and orderly withdrawl. If he escalates he can kick the can, but surely not past his second term – probable failure for which he will be blamed. If he treads water, and we continue to lose 10-12 guys at a time, he probably won't survive his first term, especially if there are reverses so bad that we won't be able to declare a (phoney, but I'll take it) victory.
He needs to go on offense. He's boxed in politically, and I don't believe he can buck his masters, but the military solution isn't that thorny. Declare victory, stand down and make it clear that the ground pounders are not expendable game pieces. Make sure that all blame, especially for any domestic economic chaos, is redirected to the previous regime that also managed to practically destroy the active military and reserves. If he can, he should get Schwartzkopf (who was a tool, but at least he looked out for his troops) back as SecDef.
Of course, he will dither and speak good things instead, so my only real hope is that the grunts concentrate on keeping each other alive and the spirit of healthy insubordination works it's way up the chain-of-command, until President Paul can straighten it back out.
F.A. Hayek Fan
November 6th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Obama is a made member in good standing of the two-party fraud. He has neither the intention nor the desire to remove American troops from Afghanistan or Iraq. This ideal that he's "afraid" to stand up to his of his generals is a joke. If his pre-election "anti-war" stance were in any way sincere, he would have been given the Ron Paul treatment by the government propaganda machine called the main stream media.
DrFix
November 6th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
JD… either you're talking tongue in cheek or missed Jeff's. And you're correct, as both myself and others have said time and again, that were we in the same position we'd do as the Afghans are doing. You'd have to be insane to do otherwise. And Hubers commentary doesn't reed of exceptionalism you only need to reread it and look at his past comments to know better.
DrFix
November 6th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
I have to agree. This emphasis on pity or having to "understand" this man is the same dog and pony show they trotted out for GW. "Oh, you have to give the man TIME and you need to be more understanding of just how difficult his job is.".. now that we have the GWOT he needs more time and more of your liberties to be expunged in order for him to WIN. Yeah, right. We bought the Brooklyn bridge hundreds of times over and instead of it being out in the deserts of Arizona its in Mesopotamia or better yet the wastes of Afghanistan. You DO see it don't you? Well, then, how about this deed I have for prime beach front property in the jungles of Venezuela?
RickR30
November 6th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Another fine article. Our foreign misadventures are one hell of a tragicomedy.
Obama knows in his guts that the right thing is to get out of Afghanistan. But he's not going to do it. He doesn't have the power. He's gotten his rewards, worship, prices, etc. ahead of time for his upcoming sacrifice. These people don't care to be used as tools and become the joke of the world. Just look at the most despised man on earth: W. Our presidents are just the face of the farce of democracy, not unlike Karzai. Afghanistan is indeed becoming just like America.
andy
November 6th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
LBJ used to worry about being a 'one-termer' too. That was a big reason he refused to walk away from Vietnam. He didn't want to be seen as the guy who "lost" Vietnam, like Truman "lost" China, (how you can "lose" something you've never had or owned I don't even pretend to understand). Ironically Vietnam ENSURED LBJ was a 'one-termer'. Karma?
John Galt
November 7th, 2009 at 1:59 am
It was proven to US in Vietnam that General Vo Nguyen Giap was correct when he said: "Any forces that would impose their will on other nations will certainly face defeat." I suspect that NONE of our Generals – politicians all and worthless – have read SunTsu's 'The Art of War'. The well earned reputation of Afghanistan is that it is "the graveyard of empires" and "the graveyard of soldiers". Anyone who has studied history knows that even Alexander the Great had difficulty getting his army through Afghanistan; Ghengis Khan could not hold onto it; both the British and the SOVIETS (AT THE HEIGHT OF THEIR MILITARY POWER) suffered defeat there. Out US attitude is that we 'will never forget 9/11". And as we illegally invade, illegally occupy, and kill tens of thousands of Muslims in Muslim lands – are 'they' to just forgive and forget what we have done to them? For a supposedly Christian nation – we do NOT act like Christians! We need to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan. 'They' hate US because we're over there killing them!
paulBass
November 7th, 2009 at 5:43 am
psychopaths – a person afflicted with a personality disorder characterized by a tendency to commit antisocial and sometimes violent acts and a failure to feel guilt for such acts.
sound like a us soldier to me.
the ones who are not are in Canada or jail
Over 90% of all females that report a sexual assault is discharged from the military before her contract ends. From the 90%, around 85% are discharged against their wishes. Almost all of the 85% lose their careers based on a misdiagnoses that makes one inelgiable for military service. The most common misdiagnoses are: adjustment disorder, personality disorder and pre-service existing PTSD or other disorder.
* According to the Department of Defense's own statistics 74-85% of soldiers convicted of rape or sexual assault leave the military with honorable discharges (meaning the rape conviction does not appear on their record!)
you know any one in a congenial situation will seem to be a "fine young man and woman"
paulBass
November 7th, 2009 at 5:49 am
"Obama knows in his guts that the right thing is to get out of Afghanistan."
well it good to know that his main campaign platform was a lie.. sure is encouraging
JeffHuber
November 7th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Thanks to all for the great discussion.
Jeff