Not many atrocities can be less controversial than Israel’s attack on the Turkish-based flotilla heading to Gaza yesterday. Like Somali pirates, Israel attacked the boats in international waters. Like the darkest regimes, Israeli forces opened fire on unarmed civilians who had not posed a threat to anybody, except to the siege that Israel (with Egyptian co-operation and U.S. backing) imposes on Gaza. Condemnation of what the Turkish prime minister rightly termed “an act of state terrorism” has been global, except for the shameful mumbling of the American government (but what can you expect from the complicit?).
In any normal place, you would expect masses to take to the streets and protest. Indeed, precisely this happened all over the globe. Not in Israel. A few hundred people did demonstrate in Tel Aviv and in several other towns, but then again a few hundred gathered to throw eggs at the Turkish embassy. On the internal front, the Israeli government has nothing to worry about.
How is this consensus achieved? How can you turn millions of fairly educated citizens into silent lambs, or worse, into supporters of their own state’s terrorism? If we concentrate on the short term, leaving aside, for the sake of brevity, decades of indoctrination, one can spot a few themes in the Israeli propaganda, which emerged during the first hours after the incident.
Recurrent Themes
The first theme was “weapons.” The peace activists were quickly portrayed by Israel as “armed.” The details changed with the minute: some media channels claimed they snatched a gun from an Israeli soldier, others said an empty ammunition magazine was found on board, others simply repeated the words “armed” or “carrying weapons” without bothering to explain. The adjective “cold” disappeared from yesterday’s Hebrew dictionary: every knife, stick, stool, or cushion turned their holders into dangerous killers – especially when facing Israel’s elite soldiers, who entered the boat peacefully and bare-handed (except for their unmentioned pistols, revolvers, hand grenades, tear gas, shockers, noise bombs, smoke bombs, protective vests, etc., etc.).
Soon after, an Israeli military spokesperson came out with the most lunatic theme of all: “lynching.” The Israeli soldiers, so official Israel shamelessly claimed, had to save themselves from being lynched by the activists. This is a direct continuation of the previous theme: when unarmed demonstrators are turned into armed killers, when armed elite soldiers kidnapping a boat become benevolent guests, one can describe the former as “lynching” the latter.
One has to be quite insane to describe armed soldiers as being lynched by unarmed civilians; it’s an insult not only to intelligence, but to the soldiers themselves. This is why an alternative theme was introduced: “battle.” The confrontation on the boat has been explicitly termed “a battle,” as if the poor Israeli army (vessels, helicopters, electronic thwarting, etc.) was facing a raging Turkish battalion. Obviously, all three themes – “weapons,” “lynching,” and “battle” – imply the Israeli soldiers were obliged to open fire; they were the victims of the ruthless attack of the Turkish grand armada.
A fourth theme was “trap” (or “ambush”). This, again, enables Israel to portray those who set the trap – the flotilla – as aggressors, while the Israeli army was, quite unfortunately, a passive, innocent victim of the hostile conspiracy.
Let’s see how Tuesday’s Israeli newspapers recycled these propaganda themes.
Tabloid One
The right-wing daily Ma’ariv put its headline in the middle of a blurred photo supplied by the Israeli army, worded “the harsh attack on the fighters: cudgels, axes, and a fighter thrown off the deck.” So now we know who the real victims are. The headline read: “The Failure (nine demonstrators killed, global rage, mumbling government, and exchange of accusations at the top) – And The Heroism (in spite of the intelligence failure and the hard violence, the commando fighters managed to take over the ships).” Criticizing the government is instrumental only to uniting behind the army, and the soldiers who spilled civilian blood are not less than “heroes.” At the bottom of the page there were two interchangeable pictures, one showing demonstrators tearing an Israeli flag, the other depicting police arresting a demonstrator next to a great fire. Titles, respectively or otherwise: “Turkey is boiling” and “The [Israeli-Arab] Section Runs Wild.” Both subtitles mentioned “Palestinian and Hamas flags everywhere,” “torn Israeli flags,” “furious mob,” “Molotov cocktails, fire, and injured policemen.” Once again, note who’s the aggressor and who’s the victim in this story. None of Israel’s newspapers, by the way, reported the demonstrations against the operation within Israel; at best, “riots” in Israeli-Arab towns were reported.
In addition, Ma’ariv gave six opinion and analysis columns, all starting on page 1. A whole spectrum of opinions. Journalist Ben Kaspit, under the hyper-critical title “Absolute Stupidity,” opened his column with the following sentence: “First of all, let it be clear: We are on the right side in this story.” The Israeli Daniel Pipes, demagogue Ben-Dror Yemini, scolded what he termed “A Leadership of Fools” for its “defeat in a battle against a ship of Hamasniks” – thus the activists were portrayed as Hamas terrorists and Israel’s piratical invasion as a battle, in line with official propaganda. Ofer Shelach, a critical columnist, added a new aspect to the soldiers’ victimhood: “From this day, the hands of the best unit in this army, whose combatants honestly join it in order to defend the state of Israel, are smeared with civilians’ blood.” That’s as far as criticism goes. Beneath him, Alan Dershowitz urged “Do Not Rush to Pass Judgment,” then immediately rushed to pass judgment that attacking the vessels outside Israel’s territorial waters was a legitimate act. What can you expect from this discredited joker? Still, Dershowitz’s imperative was polite compared to the two Israeli columnists beneath him, who directly commanded the readers to “Salute and Shut Up!”: “The pictures will not persuade the hypocritical world, but they should persuade every Zionist Israeli, right or left, to thank the fighters….” At the bottom, journalist Shalom Yerushalmi made political calculations. “But what about the lynching?” you may ask. Don’t worry: Ma’ariv‘s page 1 ended with a big headline at the very bottom: “Netanyahu: ‘Israeli Soldiers Were Defending Themselves From a Lynching.’” All the propaganda themes are here.
Tabloid Two
The right-wing daily Yediot Achronot took a completely opposite line, as far as placing the “lynching” theme is concerned. Here it wasn’t at the bottom, but at the very top of the page: “The Ambush: ‘We Felt Like in a Lynching,’ the Fighters Said.” The big headline was a single word: “The Trap,” theme number four. Within a big picture taken by Reuters (euphemistic wording for the kidnapping: “the marine commando boats escort one of the ships”) three smaller pictures were printed: one worded “a soldier thrown off the deck,” one worded “the weapons: knives and sticks,” and a third one depicting a green cloth with Arabic inscription, upon which two dozen knives were scattered, some of them small kitchen knives; no wording, no credit. Ma’ariv had the same picture on page 8, with credit to “IDF spokesperson,” who probably put the green cloth as a suggestive background.
Seven columnists made it to the front. Journalist Nahum Barnea said
the “takeover” ended in “frustration”: “Israel yesterday made an effort
to prove that the people awaiting the commando on board were not human
rights activists but violent thugs. I assume this is true. Still, the
question is why Israel gave those thugs precisely what they wanted.”
Journalist Sima Kadmon paraphrased an Israeli cliché: “Where are
the days when we were a bit less righteous but a bit wiser,” implying
the action was perfectly right but simply unwise. Extremely
militaristic journalist Alex Fishman said the same differently: “the
takeover was right and necessary, and will be right and necessary next
time too.” Analyst Sever Plotzker urged Defense Minister Ehud Barak to
resign, not failing to name the true agent behind the maritime
bloodbath: “the trap of Hamas provocation.” Senior columnist and
political adviser Eitan Haber opened on a good note: “one could have
tried to solve this problem peacefully.” Reading the rest of his
article (page 8), one learns that he had been consulted in advance, but
“I had no doubt that my suggestion as for how to deal with the flotilla
of villains would be rejected.” Haber’s concern is in no way moral: he
is just worried about Israel losing Turkey as an ally. Next, journalist
Amnon Avramovitz explained that Netanyahu was repeatedly “unlucky,”
and, last but not least, right-wing columnist Hanoch Daum concluded:
“It wasn’t Israel that initiated the confrontation at sea, it wasn’t
Israel that attacked fighters with cold and warm weapons. And it’s not
Israel that should be held accountable. It’s Hamas’ fault. Instead of
rejecting the world’s ludicrous claims, we all start a session of
self-accusation.”
Quality Paper
How about Ha’aretz, Israel’s liberal quality daily? The headline revealed the focus: “IDF’s Failed Action Creates International Mess.” Underneath it, four small pictures, one taken by the army – “throwing a soldier off the deck,” the very same as in both tabloids (but decently smaller) – one by Reuters (same as in Yediot), one taken by the Israeli police, and one showing the defense minister with two uniformed generals. Quite unlike the tabloids, the word “lynch” here is neither at the top nor at the bottom, but in the small print in the center of the page: “Defense minister … said yesterday the soldiers confronted extreme violence, and justified the decision to open fire in order to protect the fighters who, they said, were facing the risk of lynching.” Four op-eds reached the front page of the Hebrew print edition: the editorial, columnists Ari Shavit and Amos Harel, and writer David Grossman. The former two can be found in English on the Internet; the latter two are missing as I write this. All of them were critical to some extent: the editorial demanded an investigation; Shavit drew an unoriginal historical analogy to the raid on the Exodus ship; Harel wrote that the army representatives had no real difficulty explaining the action to the Israeli public: given the “extreme violence” they met, the soldiers “had no other choice,” being “exposed to injury and surrounded by a violent mass hitting them with sticks; under these circumstances, no wonder they fired live ammunition to defend themselves.” What all three columns, though, highly regretted was the damage to Israel’s image. Not a word about morality or legitimacy: it’s Israel’s image which is at stake. Because of this single flaw, the world might err to think that Israel is no longer the peace-seeking, law-abiding, sane, moderate, and benevolent country it actually is.
The one mild exception was David Grossman, who used the word “crime” for the crime, and even though he too recycled the “trap” metaphor, he did distinguish between the “small, fanatic Turkish organization” behind the flotilla and the “hundreds of activists for freedom and justice” on board. Grossman also equated the action carried out outside Israel’s territorial water to an act of piracy. He saw the action in the broader context of Israel’s “outrageous” siege on Gaza, and his final paragraph can summarize not only his, but my own column as well:
“More than anything else, this crazy operation is evidence for the place that Israel has reached. There is no point in elaborating. Whoever has eyes in his head sees and feels it. No doubt, within hours some swift minds would find a way to turn the (natural, justified) feelings of guilt of many Israelis into a vociferous accusation against the entire world. The shame, however, would be more difficult to come to terms with.”
Read more by Ran HaCohen
- Purim and Genocidal Phantasies – March 3rd, 2013
- Israel Between Eritrea and Iran – October 4th, 2012
- Tel Aviv ‘Race Riots’ Reveal Much About Israel – May 27th, 2012
- Was Elliott Abrams Hitler’s Senior Advisor? – September 15th, 2011
- Israelis Sick and Tired – but of What? – August 7th, 2011





ausador
June 2nd, 2010 at 4:42 am
You seem to be certifiably insane, I would consult a good psychiatrist if I were you.
So the Israeli troops landed on the ship should have allowed themselves to be beaten and stabbed to death by the "Peaceful" activists traveling on their shipload of second hand junk? Your entire post is nothing but propaganda that completely ignores the facts.
This flotilla set sail for only one reason, to give apologists like you another reason reason to berate Israel. It worked too.
How does it feel to be working for terrorists who indiscriminately blow up women, children, and even others of their own in order to "make a point."
My God but you are a gullible sort…
MoT
June 1st, 2010 at 10:38 pm
"My God but you are a gullible sort… " Where you looking in the mirror when you vomited this out? Back to whatever hell you crawled out of, Troll. And the trigger happy pussies were in international waters when they did their paint ball two-step before pissing in their pants and killing someone. But, alas, that's what Israelis are good at… burying people, other people, while shoving a middle finger in the face of those they rob through "aid" or outright theft. What friends they are.
uiguy
June 2nd, 2010 at 5:54 am
Where did you come from? His entire post is a verbatim analysis of the Israeli press for the benefit of readers here.
Your first paragraph is irrelevant. Your second paragraph conveniently ignores the fact that an armed party boarding a flagged ship in the middle of international waters is an act of war.
Apologists is a term used in these parts to describe The Lobby, and other fifth columnists within the US who cover for Israeli acts of espionage, collective punishment, torture, illegal use of weaponry against civilians, assassination and other crimes – all excused as ' Isreal's right to defend itself."
"make a point"? Assinine comment. Clearly, you don't come here often to do research. You could read Prof. Pape's analysis of suicide bombing for example, or other countless articles on the topic.
Gullible. No, we're remarkably well informed. Not being polluted by ideology or blind fealty to foreign nation states keeps the mind perfectly clear.
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eve
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:49 am
Gullible. No, we're remarkably well informed. Not being polluted by ideology or blind fealty to foreign nation states keeps the mind perfectly clear.
….This about says it all.
mark aleshnick
June 2nd, 2010 at 9:13 am
The "liberal" haaretz refuses to print any of my comments anymore, even though I am a double Cohen with rabbis on both sides of my family. 1/2 of whom were extinguished in the fires of Europe. haaretz has become a microcosm of israel, a self-censoring entity.
mark aleshnick
Okinawa, Japan
abiman
June 2nd, 2010 at 11:17 am
Why did the Israeli descend on the flotilla ? Was it to serve them Kosher food ? How come is it so that Israel is always facing a mortal enemy with weapons but manages to strike out first with devastating surprise and deadly result?
Let me tell you , it does not feel nice to hear somebody defending recurrent chronic repetitive Israeli attacks on children, women,sick,on hospitals, bridges,roads and then depend on US to bail it out.
john
June 2nd, 2010 at 11:51 am
Once again the Israeils become the self proclaimed victims. I guess those Somalian pirates were also victims when they met resistence.
Gaza and this massacre just reveals what animals the Israelis are. And America's support for Israel puts this nation and its people in the same category as the Israelis. Justice might be in the distant future, but it will come..
abiman
June 2nd, 2010 at 11:51 am
Thank you Rabbi. There are always hope that human values will survive its darkest hour .
World Wide News Flash
June 2nd, 2010 at 5:09 am
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DonT
June 2nd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Gideon Levy still manages to get out a flash of truth.
Hacklheber
June 2nd, 2010 at 2:11 pm
"All the killed must have been terrorist. Otherwise they wouldn't have been killed, would they?"
Here is your freshly pressed brassière, sir.
Guy
June 2nd, 2010 at 3:26 pm
My comment is long, therfore in 2 parts:
1)
I would like someone to explain to me what Israel did wrong.
Due to intense rocket attacks and terrorist activity in gaza (do not challenge, it is a fact), Israel imposed a blockade. An aid organisation wanted to provide aid, and Israel said that sea transportation to gaza would not be allowed, due to the blockade. Israel offered to transfer all the aid by land, but the organisation refused and set sail.
According to international law, bording of a ship in international waters is allowed, if the ship is set to break a blockade. So Israel, after warning the ships many times, borded them. 5 of the 6 were succesfully redirected to Ashdod. But on one ship the commandos, who came down from a helicopter without firing, were met by a deck of protestors who started brutally attacking with slingshots, stun grenades, metal bars, clubs and knives. The soldiers still did not fire live ammunition. Only when a group of protestors disarmed a soldier, and started shooting with his weapon at other soldiers, did the commandos get permission from thier dispatcher to use their pistols.
Guy
June 2nd, 2010 at 3:26 pm
part 2)
There is evidence to support everything I said. The bording of the ship was filmed, and the non shooting comandos can be seen absailing down into a violent mob, brandishing stun grenades, clubs and slingshots. There is a film of a soldier being repeatedly stabbed, yet not retaliating with his gun. There is even a new video, showing how even before the boarding, the protestors on the ship were throwing heavy objects, and hosing down commandos on a rubber dinghy.
Fell free to challenge me, i will reply.
Otherwise, shut up.
Guy
June 2nd, 2010 at 3:29 pm
PS please do not press dislike on my comments without explaining yourselves. It is very rude, and I would never do it to anyone. If you cant say anything to counter what i have said, its probably because im right.
If you press dislike, please just say why
uiguy
June 2nd, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Why? Really?
Here's a clue. Last line: "shut up".
You won't get any responses. Maybe an FU or two.
Rude, ignorant, infantile and unworthy of discourse. Makes anything that you've posted irrelevant. I'm going out on a limb and doing you a favor telling you why; most readers are smarter than me in that they never feed the trolls.
Advocat4Liberty
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:27 pm
And you are certifiably a moron and a sociopath.
Advocat4Liberty
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:48 pm
"Intense rocket attacks" – "According to the Israeli military's count on December 27, 3,000 rockets hit Israel since the beginning of the year. A total of eight people were killed by Qassam rocket, Grad rocket and mortar attacks on Israel in 2008. Four of these deaths occurred between 27-29 December" – Wikipedia
Should we compare this to the thousands of women and children massacred by Israel in Cast Lead? The almost total destruction of all civilian infrastructure in Israel's open-air prison?
Advocat4Liberty
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:48 pm
And as far as the blockade; "It is a gross violation of international law governing the treatment of Occupied populations. And now the Security Council has roundly condemned it and insisted that it be lifted." http://www.juancole.com/2010/06/historic-unsc-con…
Finally, the U.S. is realizing that it can't provide unlimited cover for a terrorist state and, hopefully, this is the beginning of the end of the "special relationship", consigning Israel to the dust bin of shameful human history.
Advocat4Liberty
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:51 pm
As far as a challenge: whatever happened to those pirates, it wasn't nearly enough. If a criminal is shot and killed during the commission of his crime, you don't blame the intended victim. The mistake by the flotilla was not bringing heavy weapons to repel the invaders. A few nice ASMs and heavy machine guns would have worked wonders.
Advocat4Liberty
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:52 pm
Why would anyone here dislike you, Guy? Just because you're shilling for the albatross around our national neck? Because you're an apologist for a terrorist state? Go figure!
E. A. Costa
June 2nd, 2010 at 11:59 pm
AB-SEIL:
Pronunciation: ˈab-ˌsāl, -ˌsī(-ə)l
Function: intransitive verb
Etymology: German abseilen, from ab down, off + Seil rope
Date: 1941
chiefly British : rappel
— abseil noun
[MWolDict]
E. A. Costa
June 3rd, 2010 at 12:08 am
Since the US term is "rappel" and the British use "abseil", it is possible that "absail" is an Australian orthographical variant.
demize!
June 3rd, 2010 at 4:23 am
Wow, this is really bringing the completely unselfaware. First comment, no I expect them to not board vessels on the high seas without the Commanding Officers permission you imbecile. Israel is an uncivilised barbarism whose time is short. As it is the parasite on an Empire in decline I envision it sucking what it can from our treasonous political class and then discarding the empty husk in search of another host which won't be found.
demize!
June 3rd, 2010 at 4:34 am
Roger-Oscar-Foxtrot-Lima!!
Guy
June 3rd, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Yes… and brought the entire Israeli navy down on them…
You seem to think the same way as the provocative activists on the ship
Guy
June 3rd, 2010 at 8:53 pm
The reason many civilians were killed in cast lead, is that hamas uses what is know in modern warfare as human shields. Example: a training centre for suicide bombers is situated underneath a school.
Justify that.
Guy
June 3rd, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Terrorist state? I hope your not one of those fanatics who is convinced that the Mossad is responsible for 9/11
Guy
June 3rd, 2010 at 8:59 pm
You are a very good judge of character: you can tell, just by my saying "shut up", that i am rude, ignorant, infantile, and unworthy of discourse.
However, I do admit that the "shut up" was uncalled for. I apologize.
Guy
June 3rd, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Advocate for liberty?
Please, tell me what you think Israel should do, in order to stop being what you call a terrorist state.
I will tell you, for each suggestion you make, why it cannot be done.
Advocat4Liberty
June 3rd, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Give back the land that they stole (or was stolen and handed to them), allow the hundreds of thousands who were dispossessed to return to their homes, stop demolishing Palestinian homes and giving them to Jewish settlers, leave the Golan Heights, get out of the West Bank, stop murdering people around the world…the list could go on for quite some time.
I know what you will argue – if they do all that, Israel will no longer be a Jewish state. The answer: so what?
Advocat4Liberty
June 3rd, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Interesting that you should bring that up, as that is exactly what the Goldstone commission found the IDF guilty of, among numerous other war crimes. Ooops…
Didn't notice your addressing the status of Gaza as an open-air prison, either. No matter.
The bottom line is: Israel needs to cease to exist. Since, given the recent history in the region, the original landholders or their survivors would probably not be very civil toward them, much of the population will no doubt have to return where they emigrated from or find other homes. Hell, we're absorbing millions of Mexico's citizens here; I'm sure they could find plenty of room – especially with today's housing market in the tank.
Advocat4Liberty
June 3rd, 2010 at 11:01 pm
If you've spent much time here at antiwar.com, you're aware of the evidence and arguments for Israeli involvement. Even if that is not the case, there are more than enough other incidents, including Monday's piracy, that casts them in the mold.
You're in Israel, aren't you?
Guy
June 5th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Im afraid that the majority of the things published on this site are fabricated, as any intelligent person should be aware. Even many anti Israel fans admit that this site is extremely biased.
And now that you have expressed your support for the claims that Mossad caused 9/11, I am aware that i am arguing with a bunch of biggoted fanatics, not worth talking to who will never have any major influence on decision making.
I, therfore, really dont care what negative scores I get for my comments, or how hard you all try to dillegitamise what I say
Advocat4Liberty
June 5th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Of course, " the majority of the things published on this site are fabricated", because you say so. Well, case closed!
And biased? This site is primarily a portal, you moron! Which means it links to other sites including the most rabid pro-Israel sites like Ynet, Jerusalem Post, New York Times, Washington Post, etc., as well as hundreds of others including the Star in Lebanon, Times of India, Al Jazeera….
You're not "arguing" with anyone. We're all well aware that you're a shill for Israel, possibly a member of the Israeli propaganda bureau. I'm sure YOU will have a major influence. ROFLMAO!
One last thing: learn to spell, oh illiterate one. "dillegitamise"? WTF is that? ;-)
Guy
June 5th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
This site is remarkably well informed?
HaHaHaHaHa, Thats like saying Iran wants nuclear weapons for peaceful purposes.
Guy
June 5th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Got a bit angry then didnt we…
1) How are you to know that English is my mother tongue? I am far from illiterate.
2) Would you be so appaled by my spelling if I were anti Israel like you? I think not.
3) This site seems to promote that the Mossad caused 9/11. That seriously undermines its credibility.
4) I am not a member of the "Israeli propaganda bereau".
5) Do you consider youself a civilized person? If so, than you shouldnt be calling me a moron.
But please, continue rolling on the floor laughing your ass off.
Advocat4Liberty
June 5th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
1) I DON'T assume that English is your 'mother tongue', since I believe you to be Israeli.
2) I'm not appalled by anyone's atrocious spelling or grammar, given the sorry state of public education. It still doesn't help your credibility which, I'll admit, is zero in my opinion. I'm just as certain that you don't care what I think anymore than I care what you think.
3) Why does postulating a theory that Israel was involved in the 9/11 incident undermine this site's credibility? Do you have some definitive evidence that contradicts the evidence presented on the site? Besides blustering about 'anti-semitism' or other such crap?
4) So you say. Here's the problem with your statement: If you are in such a position then you are also, by definition, a liar and would deny such involvement. Of course.
5) If you ARE a moron, why is it uncivilized to point out the fact? To be fair, however, that was not the best characterization. Since we've already established that you're an Israeli shill then, quite to the contrary, you are very clever and disingenuous. So my apologies for calling you a moron.
I am, however, curious as to your expectations for your posts here? Change someone's mind? Save Israel? The odds for the former are slim. The latter? Slim to none.
Guy
June 6th, 2010 at 9:11 am
I replied, but for some reason my reply has to be checked by a moderator before it will be posted.
I dot know why they are not showing it…. it uses a much more civilised tone that yours.
musings
July 14th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Whoa baby, is this ausador hopped up on something. The flotilla in his mind is a concept, not anything else. It is as such unacceptable, and therefore can be terminated with extreme prejudice. I grew up in the era of Cold War, and it seemed there was another country which could not tolerate the slightest stepping out of the propaganda line. The Soviet Union killed people for criticizing it. It lived in a mental space dominated by dialectical materialism and national security. Expressing one's thoughts through protests was impossible. And indeed critics who had gone abroad were sometimes killed.
The domestic fears of Israelis is a worrisome development. When national security trumps everything else, how far is that from Stalinist paranoia?
Nothing you do to squash the bugs of your hallucinations carries the slightest moral hesitation – even when those insects, that vermin, is the human kind. You can smile in self-righteous justification – until years later, you wake up from the fever dream and beat your breast in contrition – if that ever happens.
janeblakenship
July 27th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
What's next and where?
Jane
drewhause
July 30th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Israel press is just as formidable as their Israeli Army.
Charles
Eric Siverson
December 11th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
As for changing a advocate 4 liberties mind as slim I will agree . As for saving Israel , He need not try , God has promised Israel will be saved ., so instead of odds being none . the odds are for sure or 100% . Its you the advocate for liberty against God that maybe should not be posting anyplace . I know even mentioning God irritates many people But the Bible said 3,000 yrs ago Jews would return to Israel . They have returned , The Bible also says that anyone interfering and concerning themselves with the city of Jerusalem will be cut to pieces . This was written in the Holy bible thousands of yrs ago . I know you don't believe this will happend . Even most Jews don't believe this will happend . But it is happending right before your eyes . This is not about Jews or Palestinians being Good or bad , This is about God , is there a God ? or has mankind now gained enough knowledge that we can rule ourselves without God .
Eric Siverson
December 11th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
In east Jerusalem the land was mostly stolen from the Jews yrs earlier .Much of land was purchased by Jews from willing Palestinians , but According to Shariah law this is illeagal becuase muslims must always own any land or buildings that any muslim has ever owned . Under Islamic law no one can buy land accept muslims . Jews don't want Islamic laws , they dont want to follow muslim rules . No body anywhere wants to live under Islamic laws accept muslims that have already sold thier land . Its a sure way for muslims to eventually say we own all the land and building . evreything has been stolen .
Augustbrhm
March 16th, 2011 at 3:14 am
Jews have given trouble wherever they went .That is the nature of the beast.
Bob
July 13th, 2011 at 7:40 am
Very much enjoyed your comments.
I believe you speak for most people in America.
(Please don't judge me by my vocabulary, just a product of
the American public school system)
Have a great day.
Advocat4Liberty
July 13th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
It's been a while since I've been here, so I missed this. To my dismay, as I've needed a good laugh lately.
"God has promised Israel…"
Gotta love it. Do you do rain dances for your crops too? It's always amusing to glimpse the superstitious nonsense that primitives substitute for rational thought. Please provide us with some more entertainment.
As for your final question: obviously not all of us have gained enough knowledge to "rule ourselves" – you are a prime example. But please don't presume to speak for me.