Negotiations — or War With Iran?
“It would be unconscionable to go to war if we haven’t had such discussions,” said Nicholas Burns, undersecretary of state in the Bush administration, of reports the Obama White House has agreed to one-on-one talks with Tehran over its nuclear program.
Sen. Lindsey Graham dissented Sunday: “I think the time for talking is over. … We talk, they enrich. It needs to stop. We need to have red lines coordinated with Israel and end this before it gets out of hand.”
Clearly, Graham believes an ultimatum, followed by an attack if Iran denies us “access to their nuclear program,” is the way to “end this.”
What kind of attack?
According to David Rothkopf, writing in Foreign Policy magazine, U.S. and Israeli military authorities are discussing a joint attack, and the idea getting the most traction is “a U.S.-Israeli surgical strike targeting Iranian enrichment facilities.”
“The strike might take only ‘a couple of hours’ in the best case and only would involve ‘a day or two’ overall, the source said, and would be conducted by air, using primarily bombers and drone support.”
Smashing the enrichment facilities at Natanz and Fordow, writes Rothkopf, would mean “setting the Iranian nuclear program back many years, and doing so without civilian casualties.”
This would have “region-wide benefits,” writes Rothkopf.
“One advocate asserts it would be a ‘transformative outcome: saving Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, reanimating the peace process, securing the [Persian] Gulf, sending an unequivocal message to Russia and China, and assuring American ascendancy in the region for a decade to come.’”
Thus, according to Rothkopf and his source, a U.S. attack on Iran’s enrichment facilities would produce the same glorious benefits we were promised if only we would invade and occupy Iraq in 2003.
Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates has another view. “The results of an American or Israeli military strike on Iran could … prove catastrophic, haunting us for generations in that part of the world.” What consequences might Gates have in mind?
Iran might mine the Persian Gulf, sending ships to the bottom, halting traffic, doubling the price of oil, and plunging Europe into the economic abyss on the edge of which the continent stands today.
U.S. ships might face swarm attacks from Iranian speedboats, forcing us to sink the Iranian navy’s surface ships and destroy the hundreds of fast missile boats in the Gulf and Iranian ports.
Iran could send its submarines out and fire its anti-ship missiles to sink a U.S. warship. Iranian missile attacks on U.S. bases in Bahrain and the Gulf region could ignite an all-out air and sea war, with the U.S. having to destroy Iranian air fields, antiaircraft and missile sites, and Iran’s remaining nuclear facilities.
The U.S. could face the kind of attacks across the region that Ronald Reagan confronted when he put Marines in Beirut, with the U.S. embassy blown up and 241 Marines massacred by a suicide truck bomber.
And if after months we had smashed Iran as we did Iraq in Desert Storm, would the regime give way to a pro-Western democracy? Or would the result in Iran look like what exists today in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and Afghanistan?
Syria is breaking apart into Sunni and Alawite, Arab, Kurd and Druze, Christian and Muslim, Islamist and secular. Afghanistan is dissolving into Tajik and Uzbek in the north, Hazara in the center, and Pashtun in the south and east. Iraq is losing Kurdistan and reverting to civil-sectarian war.
A U.S. defeat of Iran could bring to power revanchists bent on payback through terrorism and propel that half of the population that is Arab, Baluch, Kurd, and Azeri to try to break away.
Who would benefit from a breakup of Iran, other than jihadists?
Iran would surely stir up Hezbollah to rain down rockets on Israel and incite the Shia in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia to rise against the regimes there.
Would Shia in Iraq attack the U.S. embassy in Baghdad? We cannot know, but Gates is surely right that the consequences could be catastrophic.
Which raises the question. Why are we even talking about war?
Sen. Graham notwithstanding, the sanctions are working. The Iranian economy is sinking into recession, oil revenues have fallen, and hard currency reserves are being depleted. And what is the grave threat that justifies a war?
While Iran is enriching uranium to 20%, it has not enriched to weapons grade. Should they do so, we would know it. Ayatollah has called nuclear weapons anti-Islamic, and the U.S. intelligence community says Iran has no nuclear bomb program.
America’s position as of today is: We do not want war with Iran, but will tolerate no Iranian bomb. Iran’s official position is: We want no bomb, and we are willing to negotiate, but we have a right to have a peaceful nuclear program.
Can we find no common ground here?
Gates and Burns are right. Before we go to war, let us find out, in face-to-face talks if need be, if we really have to go to war.
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Read more by Patrick J. Buchanan
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- Who Are the War Criminals in Syria? – May 6th, 2013
- Their War, Not Ours – April 29th, 2013
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- Goading Gullible America Into War – March 21st, 2013





Johnny in Wi.
October 22nd, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Talks and negotiations are the only solution. They will happen whoever wins the Presidential election. Any war would be a disaster for the world, as Pat Buchanan points out.
Edwin Anders
October 23rd, 2012 at 1:01 am
The invasion and brutal occupation of Iraq frightened and incensed her neighboring Muslim countries into anti-US positions, and thereby prepped them for US invasion. (So far: mineral-rich Afghanistan, oil-rich Libya, and oil-rich Syria). These two linchpin justifications were Bush's statements that Iraq did 9/11 and had WMD for the next attack. These two rationales for war were accepted and believed by an enraged and frightened Western world populace, and a vast volunteer armada of enthusiastic and heroic young men was quickly formed in the US for the brave fight against "terror," against those who "hate us because we're free." Great Wars always start with some small provocation, like the the Harper's Ferry Incident, the unproven hostel sinkings of the Maine and the Lusitania, and the Gulf of Tonkin (a now proven and admitted false flag operation). Given this US history and the propensity of a huge remote populace to be spoon-fed outrage and panic, the "Iraq did 9/11" and "Iraq has Weapons of Mass Destruction" was certainly enough "spark" to set off the Middle East War (as history will probably call these wars). It was only because of the danger, and later the reality, that the two rationales would be shown false that a third, buttressing rationale was readied: "America needs the oil."
Hundreds of thousands of callow, frightened, blustering 18-25 year olds deserve the answer, Who got the oil we died for? Who stole and makes gargantuan profits from the oil for which so many thousands of our brothers have bled, guts out, on the desert sand?
Name us the names of those who took this oil and now sell it to the world for double the pre-war price?
Who now gets rich off innocent blood, while at home wages go down and unemployment rises, as more and more jobs are shipped to overseas sweatshops?
The false flag op 9/11 worked to start the US invasion of Iraq, so it seems likely another such op will be used to start te invason of Iran.
james
October 23rd, 2012 at 1:49 am
Dear Mr. Buchanan, the only solution is not talking, it is for you to withdraw your cowards out of the middle east and stop meddling in other countries affairs.
Nobody anywhere in the world wants a western style democracy like yours. People have their own cultures, a word that does not apply to the USA at least. They do not want Justin this and Justin that rammed in their living room TV's 24/7. They do not want entertainment disguised as news, they do not gif a rats behind about prostitutes and pimps posing as celebrities and idolized by your brain dead populace. They do not need special interest groups destroying their forms of democracy.
What part of LEAVE US THE FUCK ALONE you don't understand Pat?
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Jaime
October 23rd, 2012 at 7:35 am
"Who would benefit from a breakup of Iran, other than jihadists?" Israel, of course. That you don't mention this self-evident axiom seems quite suspicious.
michaelhamrin
October 23rd, 2012 at 7:53 am
"Sanctions are working?" Toward what end? "Sanctions" are an act of warfare and of collective punishment. The term sanitizes pro-actively causing the death and immiseration of populations. Read the studies regarding Iraq. Will the mullahs cry uncle and stop enrichment which is their legal right to do? Will they invite that yahoo, Netanyahu and Hillery to tea and turn over the keys to the kingdom? It is callous disregard for the suffering Iranians to talk so cavalierly about sanctions being an OK form of diplomacy. They are just as evil as drones. I would expect better from Mr. Buchanan.
Jaime
October 23rd, 2012 at 7:58 am
And the idiotic sheeple will again start sending their children to the meat grinder because it's the patriotic thing to do and the heroic troops must be supported.
hassani1387
October 23rd, 2012 at 8:19 am
Buchanan seems to think that the "Iranian nuclear threat" is something other than just a pretext for a war to suit Israel. Remember, "WMDs in Iraq" was just a lie and a pretext too. The last thing that the Israelis want is for the Iranians and the US to start to get along.
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G.A.
October 23rd, 2012 at 8:30 am
Peaceful settlement will bring USA double bonus. No.1 ) Due to war on terror ,many nation, institution
think tank and individual has negative sentiment for USA and this negative sentiment will turn at 180 degree to good sentiment for America that this nation loves peace and not war. And No. 2) USA will benefit maximum from Iran trades.
Aireck
October 23rd, 2012 at 9:15 am
We have a treaty with all member nations of the NPT to ASSIST their peaceful pursuit of civilian nuclear energy. Agreed and signed treaties are treated as American law. Yet we sanction and threaten to bomb Iran for doing that exact thing that is a part of our law to support?
500,000 Iraqi children died because of our sanctions there. For what?
"Our one ally" in the Middle Est is actually our biggest liability in dealing with the rest of the world.
deliaruhe
October 23rd, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Negotiations or war. This is not the choice on offer here. The only outcome of negotiations that Israel would accept is Iran giving up its rights under the NPT — and Iran won't do that. So the choice is war now or war later.
ML3
October 23rd, 2012 at 3:29 pm
Doubt very much the pilots involved in the most danger will be Israeli.
Mohammed
October 23rd, 2012 at 8:29 pm
I like the answer of this German Scholar when he was asked about terrorism and Islam: He said:
·Who started the First World War, which killed 37 million and injured 22, 379, 053 that includes 7 million civilians?Muslims?
·Who started the Second World War, which killed over 60 million, which was over 2.5% of the world population?Muslims?
·Who killed about 20 million of Aborigines in Australia? Muslims?
·Who drop the nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which killed 166,000 people in Hiroshima and 80,000 in Nagasaki? Muslims?
·Who killed more than 100 million Red Indians in North America?Muslims?
·Who killed more than 50 million Indian in South America?Muslims?
·Who took about 180 million African people as slaves and when 88% of them died, threw them into the Atlantic Ocean?Muslims?
NO
They weren’t Muslims! First of all, you have to define terrorism properly…. If a non-Muslim does something bad… it is crime. But if a Muslim commits the same, he is a terrorist. So first remove the double standard… then come to the point.
*** Just for your information ***
Outsider
October 24th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
James, you should reread the article. Pat, unlike the neocons such as Graham, McCain, etc, wants the US to get the hell out of the ME. For you to say that the solution is to 'not talk' is crazy. Don't understand how you got so many thumbs up.
Outsider
October 24th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
I don't know how you can interpret that Mr Buchanan is in favor of the sanctions. In today's foreign policy world seems like the only current bad choice is between sanctions and actual war. People, like probably most readers of Anti-War, who are against both are correct. But, unfortunately, in our warloving US you can no longer get elected on a peace platform. I've read Buchanan closely for some time and believe him to be strongly against both the sanctions and a shooting war.