The Fruits of Intervention
If we had it to do over, would we send an army into Afghanistan to build a nation?
Would we invade Iraq?
While these two wars have cost 5,200 dead, a trillion dollars, and a divided America facing an endless war, what have we won?
Gen. Stanley McChrystal needs 40,000 to 80,000 more troops, or we risk "mission failure" in Afghanistan. At present casualty rates — October was the worst month of the war — thousands more Americans will die before we see any light at the end of this tunnel, if ever we do.
Pakistan, which aided us in Afghanistan, now has a war of its own to fight. Its army is in a battle in South Waziristan, while the country is wracked by terror bombings, the latest in a Peshawar bazaar that specialized in women’s clothing and jewelry and toys for kids. So horrific was the toll even the Taliban and al-Qaeda denied any role in it.
The 130,000 U.S. troops in Iraq are, after almost seven years, to begin pulling out two months after January’s election. But a hitch has developed. Iraq’s parliament missed the deadline for setting the rules. At issue: Will voters be allowed to choose individual candidates, or will they be allowed only to vote for slates of candidates?
Gen. Ray Odierno implies that postponement of the election may mean postponement of U.S. withdrawals.
Ominously, in August, terrorists bombed the foreign and finance ministries in Baghdad, and last week blew up the Justice Ministry and Baghdad Provincial Governorate. And the Kurds are now claiming their control of oil-rich Kirkuk is non-negotiable, which crosses a red line in Baghdad.
Next door, a terror attack by Jundallah (God’s Brigade) in Iran’s southern province of Sistan-Baluchistan killed 40, including two senior commanders of the Revolutionary Guard.
An enraged Tehran pointed the finger at the United States, as there have been charges the CIA has been in contact with Jundallah as part of President Bush’s destabilization program to effect "regime change."
But Barack Obama has been in office for nine months — and he would never authorize such an attack on the eve of a critical meeting on Iran’s nuclear program. Moreover, the State Department condemned the Jundallah bombing as terrorism and offered public condolences to the families of the victims.
But if we didn’t authorize this, who did?
Was the timing of this attack coincidental? Were these just freelance secessionists on an operation unrelated to the U.S.-Iran talks? Or is someone trying to torpedo the talks and push Iran and the United States into military collision?
For this was a provocation. And whoever carried it out and whoever authorized or abetted it wishes to dynamite the U.S.-Iran negotiations, abort a rapprochement and put us on a road to war.
Speculation is focusing on the Saudis, the Gulf Arabs and the Israelis, who have been accused, as has the United States, of aiding PJAK, a Kurdish faction that has conducted raids in northern Iran.
If we have any control of these organizations, we should shut them down. With U.S. armies tied up in Iraq and Afghanistan, and America conducting Predator and cross-border attacks in Pakistan, provoking a war with Iran would be an act of madness.
Looking back, how has all this fighting advanced U.S. national interests? We have a "democratic" Iraq that is Shia-dominated and tilting to Iran. We have an open-ended war in Afghanistan that will likely do for Obama what Iraq did for Bush. But we can’t pull out, it is said, for if we do, Kabul falls and Afghanistan becomes the sanctuary for an Islamist war to take over Pakistan and its nuclear weapons.
And if that should happen, it would indeed be a crisis.
And so, how has all this intervention availed us?
We ran Saddam out of Kuwait and put U.S. troops into Saudi Arabia. And we got Osama bin Laden’s 9-11. We responded by taking down the Taliban and taking over Afghanistan. And we got an eight-year war with no victory and no end in sight. Now Pakistan is burning. We took down Saddam and got a seven-year war and an ungrateful Iraq.
Meanwhile, the Turks, who shared a border with Saddam, have done no fighting. Iran has watched as we destroyed its two greatest enemies, the Taliban and Saddam. China, which has a border with both Pakistan and Afghanistan, has sat back. India, which has a border with Pakistan and fought three wars with that country, has stayed aloof.
The United States, on the other side of the world, plunged in. And now we face an elongated military presence in Iraq, an escalating war in Afghanistan and potential disaster in Pakistan, and are being pushed from behind into a war with Iran.
"America rejects the false comfort of isolationism," said George W. Bush in his 2006 State of the Union. And we did reject that false comfort. And now we can enjoy the fruits of interventionism.
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Read more by Patrick J. Buchanan
- Who Wants War With Iran? – February 6th, 2012
- He Who Defends Everything Defends Nothing – February 2nd, 2012
- Who Wants War With Iran? – January 19th, 2012
- Our Innocents Abroad? – January 2nd, 2012
- Make Congress Vote on War on Iran – December 22nd, 2011





Peaceful_Idiot
October 30th, 2009 at 4:38 am
Yes we should enjoy it more. And we will. I'm thinking around the time those that would harm us acquire their own drones. And faceless peasants like me will die because of it.
RickR30
October 30th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
For a while there it seemed that Pat was in favor of sending more troops to Afghanistan. Good to see that he reconsidered.
The US project of nation-building and democratizing non-Western Muslim countries will turn out to be the greatest error in the history of mankind. Thanks neo-cons!
I bet Obama knows what the right course is (get out of all these hell-holes) but he doesn't have the leadership to say no to the plan that was layout for America to cause havoc everywhere and then play the world's police. We get what we deserve.
Henry_Clemens
October 30th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
The establishment’s “conservative” apologist, Buchanan, asked these questions: If we had it to do over, would we send an army into Afghanistan to build a nation? Would we invade Iraq? But of course! Mr. Buchanan, how else do you expect the American political-military-banking-corporate complex to keep raping the American taxpayers for the hundreds of billions of dollars needed to keep their arms industries humming? How else do you expect them to force the rest of the world to do business on their terms without military force and invasion? How else do you expect them to secure for themselves and their Wall Street cronies hundreds of billions of dollars in potential oil and mineral profits? The way the establishment saw it, invading Iraq and Afghanistan was just business as usual. But you knew the answers to those questions all along, didn’t you? “The Fruits of Intervention” indeed.
andy
October 30th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
"The false comfort of Isolationism"…..courtesy of that mental midget George W. Bush.
In reality America went from strength to strength when it had a non-interventionist foreign policy.
T. McGuire
October 30th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Pakistan has an army of 550,000 troops. The Taliban, who we created, could not take over Pakistan because they could not face down these heavily equipped forces; and even Iran would come to Pakistan's aid against the Taliban. This worry is pure BS. It is time to get out of this part of Asia, and stop trying to control Eurasia and the World at the economic and moral sacrifice of our own country. We are broke, and our leadership is adrift in a sea of self created foreign policy disasters. Israel has played far too dominant a role in these misadventures. Pat Bushanan knows this is a correct assesment.
Henry_Clemens
October 30th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
You are 100% correct.
Peaceful_Idiot
October 31st, 2009 at 1:58 am
What he said!
John Galt
October 31st, 2009 at 2:12 am
"The only lesson we learn from History is that we do NOT learn from History." The Vietnamese wanted the French and the Japanese and the Americans out of their country. The Iraqis want the Americans out of their country. The Afghans want US out of their country. The invasion and occupation of Iraq – by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the Zionist Neocons – is the worst strategic blunder in the history of the US. War with Iran – being pushed by Israel and the TRAITORS in AIPAC and in our own Congress – would be even worse! Afghanistan is 'the graveyard of empires' and it will be our graveyard. That country is not a 'nation' and has never really been a 'nation' – it is a series of mountains and valleys ruled by war lords and tribes which have defeated every army that tried to invade and occupy it. Senator Fulbright said it best many years ago: "The price of empire is America's soul and that price is too high." For a supposedly 'Christian' nation / people – we sure are bloodthirsty terrorists! We have lost our soul – we will lose our 'empire' and as Krueszcheve preicted: "America will fall like a rotten plum from a tree."
MvGuy
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Henry Clemens seems to have "gotten it"……….. It is corporations like Unocal and the oil companies
aided and abetted by the Israeli's that are willing to "invest" in American politicians to get what they want.
The U.S. spends a trillion and they get a few billion for the millions they "invest" in OUR politicians…..
but…. It's NOT corruption and drowning people isn't torture if the lawyers say so….. The law is for sale too….