Israeli Assassinations and American Presidents
On Jan. 13 the Atlanta Jewish Times featured a column by its owner-publisher suggesting that Israel might someday need to “order a hit” on the president of the United States.
In the column, publisher Andrew Adler describes a scenario in which Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu would need to “give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel.”
The purpose? So that the vice president could then take office and dictate U.S. policies that would help the Jewish state “obliterate its enemies.”
Adler wrote that it is highly likely that the idea “has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles.”
Numerous Jewish leaders quickly condemned Adler, who has now apologized for the column, resigned, and put the newspaper up for sale. An Israeli columnist noted that the hatred being stirred up against Obama is similar to conditions in Israel that led to the murder of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin by a Jewish extremist.
Many of those criticizing Adler claim that he defamed Israel by suggesting that it would ever do such a thing. Abe Foxman, head of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), proclaimed: “There is absolutely no excuse, no justification, no rationalization for this kind of rhetoric. It doesn’t even belong in fiction.”
In reality, however, Adler’s expectation that Israel’s inner circles have explored such a course of action, and would be willing to undertake it, may be entirely accurate. The fact is that Israel has killed and plotted to assassinate people throughout the world; a number have been Americans. One alleged plot was chillingly similar to Adler’s suggestion.
There is evidence that in 1991 an Israeli undercover team planned to assassinate a U.S. president. The intended victim was George Herbert Walker Bush.
The first person to write of the plot was a former 11-term Republican congressman from Illinois, Paul Findley. In a 1992 article in the Washington Report for Middle East Affairs, Findley described the alleged scheme and how it was revealed.
Findley wrote that the U.S. Secret Service had received a warning that elements of Israel’s spy agency might target Bush when he went to Madrid for the opening day of the peace conference to be held that year.
According to Findley, a former Mossad agent named Victor Ostrovsky, who had written a book exposing Israel’s spy agency, told a group of Canadian parliamentarians that he had received secret intelligence suggesting that the “the Mossad’s hatred of Bush — and support for Vice President Dan Quayle — might lead to an attempt on the president’s life.”
Israel considered Quayle much closer to Israel than Bush. Bush had particularly angered Israel by attempting to pressure Israel into ending its illegal settlement expansion on confiscated Palestinian land by withholding loan guarantees until Israel ended this practice.
Findley wrote that Ostrovsky’s statements were relayed to Findley’s friend and former colleague Paul “Pete” McCloskey, a prominent former Republican congressman from California who had recently been named by Bush to the National and Community Service Commission.
McCloskey, a decorated Marine veteran and graduate of Stanford Law School who had at one time been considered a presidential contender, flew to Ottawa to debrief Ostrovsky in person and evaluate his information.
Findley reported that Ostrovsky told McCloskey that the Mossad wanted “to do everything possible to preserve a state of war between Israel and its neighbors, assassinating President Bush, if necessary.” Ostrovsky said that a PR campaign was already underway in both Israel and the United States to “prepare public acceptance of Dan Quayle as president.”
Convinced that Ostrovsky was legitimate and his information significant, McCloskey jumped on the next flight to Washington, where he reported Ostrovsky’s intelligence to the Secret Service and State Department.
The apparent plot never went forward, perhaps because Ostrovsky and McCloskey had given it away.
Ostrovsky gave more details about the plot two years later in his 1994 book, The Other Side of Deception: A Rogue Agent Exposes the Mossad’s Secret Agenda, published by HarperCollins.
In the book, Ostrovsky wrote that an extremist group within Mossad was responsible for the plan. He said they kept the plan secret from then–Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, though they believed that Shamir would have ordered such a hit himself if he hadn’t been constrained by politics. In the lead-up to Israel’s 1948 founding war, Shamir had headed up a terrorist group known for its assassinations.
In his review of Ostrovsky’s book, Ambassador Andrew Killgore, a retired career foreign service officer and publisher of the Washington Report, called the book an “insider’s probing exposé of some Middle East realities that have been hidden too long from all but Israeli eyes.”
Ostrovsky wrote that the Israelis planned a “false flag” operation, in which they would pin the assassination on Palestinians. They kidnapped three Palestinian militants from Beirut who were to be the scapegoats, took them to Israel’s Negev desert, and held them incommunicado.
“Meanwhile,” Killgore writes, “Mossad-generated threats on the president’s life, seemingly from Palestinians, were leaked. These were designed to throw suspicion on the organization of rogue Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal. Names and descriptions of the three terrorists were leaked to Spanish police so that, if the plot was successful, blame would automatically fall on them.”
Ostrovsky reports that after the assassination plot was eventually canceled, the three Palestinian prisoners were “terminated.”
Targeting Americans
If the plot had gone forward, this would not have been the first time that Israel targeted Americans for death. Nor would it be the first false-flag operation.
• In 1954 the Mossad planned to firebomb American installations, libraries, and other gathering places in Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood was to be blamed for the attacks, thus causing American animosity toward Egypt. An accidental early detonation of one of the devices caused the plot, known as the Lavon Affair, to unravel before it could kill or mutilate the intended Americans.
• In 1967 Israeli air and sea forces perpetrated an almost two-hour assault in which they tried to sink a U.S. Navy ship with a crew of 300. While the attack failed to sink the ship, it succeeded in killing 34 Americans and injuring 174. Some analysts have conjectured that this was also a false-flag operation; it is highly likely that Egypt would have been blamed for the attack if the ship had gone down.
• In 1973 Israeli fighter pilots were ordered to shoot down an unarmed U.S. reconnaissance plane (at the time the U.S. was delivering massive weaponry to Israel to prevent it from losing the “Yom Kippur War” with Egypt and Syria). While the Israelis were unable to reach the altitude of the U.S. plane, they did manage that same year to shoot down a civilian Libyan airliner that had strayed over Israeli territory, killing 104 men, women, and children. One was an American.
• In 1990 a Canadian-American scientist and father of seven, Gerald Bull, was assassinated in Belgium. All indications are that it was an Israeli Mossad hit team that drilled five bullets into the back of his head and neck. (Israel has assassinated a number of scientists of various nationalities. The most recent is a 32-year-old father of a young son from Iran.)
• In 2003 it came out that Israeli leaders had officially decided to undertake assassination operations on U.S. soil. An FBI spokesman, queried about the Israeli plans, said only: “This is a policy matter. We only enforce federal laws.”
• In recent years a growing number of American peace activists have been intentionally killed, maimed, and injured by Israeli forces, including 23-year-old Rachel Corrie, 21-year-old Brian Avery, 37-year-old Tristan Anderson, 21-year-old Emily Henochowicz, and 21-year-old Furkan Dogan.
All of this has been minimally reported in the U.S. press. While major news organizations from England to Israel to Australia covered the Jewish Times’ apparent endorsement of a possible Israeli assassination of a U.S. president, the scandal has been largely missing from U.S. media. Even Atlanta’s AP bureau inexplicably initially decided not to write a report on it, only finally sending out a story many days later.
Such news omissions concerning Israeli partisans are not rare. In 2004 a fanatic Israel loyalist wrote a letter saying that he was going to burn down Presbyterian churches while worshippers were inside (he was furious at the Presbyterian Church’s decision to divest from companies profiting from the illegal Israeli occupation of Palestinian land). This grisly threat also received minimal media play.
Despite Israeli violence against Americans (even while American taxpayers have given far more of our tax money to Israel than to any other nation) American presidential candidates, with the exception of Ron Paul, continue to vie over who is most devoted to Israel.
It is ironic that Adler considers Obama so bad for Israel, given that Israeli analysts have rated him second only to Mitt Romney in his fidelity to Israel. And Obama has now released a seven-minute video that may catapult our first African-American president into first place in pandering to an apartheid nation.
Perhaps he’ll be safe from assassins.
Read more by Alison Weir
- The Real Story of How Israel Was Created – October 10th, 2011
- American Taxpayers Subsidize Israel’s Prosperity – August 31st, 2011
- Israeli Video Games in Gaza – August 23rd, 2011
- Israel Lobby Dominates Congress, Media Covers it Up – August 10th, 2011
- Critical Connections: Egypt, the US, and Israel – February 4th, 2011





baz
January 24th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
if we take the money out of the political process here, israel and its saboteurs in this country are finished
David Grayling
January 24th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Obama had better get his ducking skills up to scratch. He is not popular in Israel because he 'appears' to be avoiding a confrontation with Iran (of course, what is going on behind the scenes may well be another matter).
The Israelis are professionals when it come to 'murdering'. Look at the Iran nuclear scientists and the 1,400 killed in the Gaza war crime. And they've been murdering Palestinian civilians for decades.
musings
January 24th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
I think it goes beyond the attitude which Obama has taken towards Iran – after all, a war with Iran would be easier to trigger than an assassination (blamed on the usual patsy) – if indeed some ship were hit by a seeming suicidally-inclined fanatic in a small boat with an Iranian provenance. No, the problem goes to the essence of the racist policies and beliefs of Israelis in what has been called an apartheid state.
The Israelis just cannot believe that a black President really, really loves them and their internal policies. Obama may be cordial, he may concede them some points, now and then, like the good debater he is, but deep down he has their number and they know it. It does not rest easily with them that he is not an enthusiast for every single thing they do internally. He simply does not put them first, and that is perceived as dangerous to them.
sam stone
January 25th, 2012 at 1:53 am
So the truth is beging to come out bit at a time. Or is a vote in America still worth less than a Israeli bullet or bomb
Moylan
January 25th, 2012 at 3:15 am
Dear Americans , You are biggest COWARDS.
ahmadi
January 25th, 2012 at 4:47 am
who cares? the dog bites the hand of the master that feeds it. It is not implausible that one day, backs to the wall, the zionists decide to take out the western world for refusing to go the full mile.
PEACE EVER AFTER
January 25th, 2012 at 8:27 am
I have concluded that the primary reason our politicians give unwavering support for Israel is that they fear for their lives . Of course the fiancial benefit is also important. Better to feed the monster than have it devour you.
liveload
January 25th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Let us never forget the 5 man Mossad team that danced and celebrated on top of a van (which had contained explosives) on September 11, 2001. There are still bone fragments being recovered to this very day of people atomized by violent explosive force (Like Firefighter Sean Tallon), when those towers collapsed symmetrically into their own footprints.
Lorraine
January 25th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Alison, this article is a bombshell. I hope it gets reprinted in other outlets and I will certainly forward it on. We must be vigillant that there are many alternative ways for the Puppetmeisters to rid our nation of it's "secret" muslim president. Just the other day I read something about Obama being ousted before the end of his term due to his citizenship issue; who knows, even THAT campaign may be a Mossad scheme, knowing how those folks hedge their bets. Anyway, hope to see you in town for the 7 Feb event.
Tim
January 25th, 2012 at 9:19 am
Great article! I would like to mention the revelation made by the former Mossad agent and whistleblower Ari Ben Menache that the Achillie Largo incident in 1985 was a Mossad operation. According to Menache, that attack was orchestrated by Mossad agents posing as Sicilian dons who paid the terrorist Abul Abbas a million dollars to do something cruel in order undermine international support for the Palestinians.
I am glad someone mentioned the "five dancing Israelis" who were seen videotaping and apparently cheering the attacks on the Twin Towers. Fox News covered the story for a while but it has since gone down the memory hole. One of five later admitted he had been sent to record the events. Of course, this strongly suggests Israel had foreknowledge of the attacks. Who else knew about them?
andy
January 25th, 2012 at 10:04 am
Why does the US media ignore all this? One guess.
MoT
January 25th, 2012 at 10:14 am
"Perhaps hell be safe from assassins….." But of course! That's called protection money. Hypocritical thing is that these rats spend our money for their misdeeds.
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ML3
January 25th, 2012 at 11:24 am
What more evidence do people need as to who the real terrorists are?
Besides us of course
Jaime
January 25th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Well, it wouldn't be such a bad deal for the rest of us. Imagine, Israel and the west nuking each other.
mickperry
January 25th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
We need only to go back to April last year. Anyone still remember the Goldstone turn about?
“Just weeks ago, Israeli military intelligence announced it had created a special unit to monitor, confront, and possibly hunt down, individuals and bodies suspected of "delegitimizing" Israel abroad.” http://www.newsfrommiddleeast.com/?new=76522
Smithboy
January 25th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Would make a great movie. Think it could get made in the US?
liveload
January 25th, 2012 at 1:23 pm
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January 25th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
[...] Many of those criticizing Adler claim that he defamed Israel by suggesting that it would ever do such a thing. Abe Foxman, head of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), proclaimed: “There is absolutely no excuse, no justification, no rationalization for this kind of rhetoric. It doesn’t even belong in fiction.” In reality, however, Adler’s expectation that Israel’s inner circles have explored such a course of action, and would be willing to undertake it, may be entirely accurate. The fact is that Israel has killed and plotted to assassinate people throughout the world; a number have been Americans. One alleged plot was chillingly similar to Adler’s suggestion. http://original.antiwar.com/alison-weir/2012/01/24/israeli-assassinations-and-american-presidents/ [...]
Jeff
January 25th, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Interesting, a really long article yet, not one fact was actually mentioned, only consipracies… Smoke and mirrors by authors like you is not unusual. What is, is when you say I am talking about smoke and mirrors.
I am sure the author doubts that Iran is trying to get nukes – that is just baseless. Or the Assad murders his people – riduculous accusation. Or that Hamas intentionally target civillians -nonsence. But what is true is that "2003 it came out that Israeli leaders had officially decided to undertake assassination operations" – came out ? You would think you would mention a source… let me guess the blogesphere and the smoking gun – the FBI said "“This is a policy matter. We only enforce federal laws.”
This article is a serious joke – report facts or make them up, just dont spread pure gossip, unbecome even for this author.
Jeff
January 25th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Such a joke – its the Jews who did everything…. Back to the good old blood libels
Glenn
January 25th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
So you doubt the fact that Israhell tried to sink the Liberty? You can go back to that rabid dog of a country, then…
Jeff
January 25th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Firstly, there is no proof – just speculation. Second of all – Why this huge deal? 45 years ago in the middle of a war…. Do yoou realize how ridiclous of an argument this makes when you have to go so far back to a maybe event?
I am sure you have no issue with Hizbolla killing hundred of marines in the 80's for example 15 years after 5 times more soldiers killed with clear evindence yet you go back to the liberty…common dude – be honest with yourself and everyone else here. This is just a way to bash Israel, the only true democracy in the mideast. The only place in the mideast where arab. Israeli citizen, have rights. can you imagine of all the mideast only the arabs in teh Jewish state have full rights…. talka about that. talk about the religous fanayics that are taking over Egypt, Women cannot drive in Saudi Arabi, Assad killing thousand. Gays, women, minority persecution in the Arab world…NO, its Israel who is the devil…
Serously?
yaridanjo
January 25th, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Obama had better watch out for our own CIA.
http://www.rense.com/general87/d3.htm
Italy Ex-President – CIA And Mossad Ran 9-11
The CIA and the Mossad do not mind killing USA citizens then blaming it on Muslims.
rick
January 25th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
You bash the guy for not stating facts and then you imply Iran is seeking nukes yet you present no facts. And speaking of intentionally targeting civillians, do you remember operation: cast lead?
Jeffiano
January 25th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
No proof – just speculation ?
Does that statement apply to Israel, when they tried to sink the USS Liberty back in 1967 too?
You might want to ask Phillip Tourney who was actually present on the USS Liberty when "democratic ally" Israel killed 34 USA sailors and tried to sink the ship and kill everybody else on board what he thinks of people like you that would make statements like "there is no proof – just speculation".
Yeah. Seriously.
Jeffiano
John
January 25th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
I completely agree Jeff. I can't tell the difference anymore between Leftists, who used to be the good guys, and these people are a reincarnation of the German nazi party
John
January 25th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Glenn,
You're ridiculous. where is your absent outrage at the far greater civil liberty violations done to Christians, Baha'i, Buddhists, and the tiny remaining Jewish population of the Islamic world? It's no where to be found which is a testament to your RANK hypocrisy
andy
January 25th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
If the shoe fits…wait, don't wear it, just say the shoemaker is a bigot.
NiceFeller
January 25th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
That would be nice and seems to make sense, but if you take the money out of the campaign process they will simply use bribes and secret payments like the old days. What we need is for Americans to wake up to the fact that the 2 party system is a farce. Does it really seem to matter whether a D or R wins a seat or the Presidency. The only thing different between the 2 parties is rhetoric not substance or actions.
nicefeller
January 25th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
They would loose whether conventional or nuclear
EuroMass
January 25th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Curiously no one ever cared – amidst of, and in spite of the avalanche of conspiracy theories related to the JFK assassination – to look into the matter from the "cui bono" perspective. It is a matter of record that JFK was hellbent on shutting down the Israeli nuclear weapons program during his second term. The rest is history. Who and how manipulated Oswald into pulling the trigger, as well as Jack Ruby's possible ties to Mossad have never been duly investigated.
IsraelDid911
January 25th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
One might also google "dancing israeli" to see how on 9/11 before the first plane struck there were Israelis in NY filming the towers dressed as arabs. They then cheered and flicked cigarette lighters as they celebrated the strikes, this they claimed was simply because now they thought America would support Israel more in their "war on terror". I just want to know if the Mossad planned and carried out 9/11 then forced the US to shut up about their involvement or if the Mossad and CIA planned the event together from the start. Either way we should stop sending money to Israel ( who is financially more sound than the US is ) and stop allowing people with dual Israeli citizenship to serve in top posts of our Government. No other countries nationals who have dual citizenship are allowed to hold such offices, only Israelis and that seems more than strange.
Tim
January 25th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
yeah, there is also no proof that Hitler authorized the Final Solution, just "speculation" right?
allen heart
January 25th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Israel has been lead by terrorists even before they were granted an opportunity to form their own state by the UN by usurping the land of Palestinians. Menachem Begin was head of the Irgun Zvei Leumi terrorists and the Nobel Committee sullied the shine of the Peace Prize by naming him one of two recipients in 1978. In July 1946, Begin-led Irgun terrorists bombed the King David Hotel in Jerusalem killing 91 people. Two years later he lead Irgun in the massacre of over 100 men, women and children of Deir Yassin. Yitzhak Shamir, second prime minister of Israel, lead Lehi, a terrorist group that specialized in assassination, sent book bombs to all members of the British cabinet, heads of the Tory opposition, and military commanders. He also helped plan the assassination of the UN mediator, Count Folke Bernadotte, in 1948. David ben-Gurion. considered by many to be the Father of the State of Israel, was infamously quoted, "“We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.”
EuroMass
January 25th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
No cheap shots, please. Well, had the Nazis won the war, they'd be in the position of influence & the charge of matters now, pulling strings & none of us would have heard of the Endlosung.. it would be just a malicious rumor & a "speculation", yea..
allen heart
January 25th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Imagine the worldwide nuclear fallout riding on the jetstream. It only took 4 days for Fukushima fallout to reach the USA from Japan. It took 5 weeks to make it to Australia, riding a HAARP rainbow. It took less than that to reach Europe. If you don't live on this planet, you might be safe.
allen heart
January 25th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
No. Hollywood only makes movies with Arabs as the bad guys.
allen heart
January 25th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
The Israelis knew the make and model of the truck that was eventually allowed through their guard post to kill nearly 300 American marines in Lebanon.
If you ask Sephardic Jews about the "true democracy" they live in, they might even tell you how they constantly face discrimination because they and their families have lived there for centuries instead of emigrating from Ukraine, Poland, Russia, etc.. If you ask the Arab members of the Knesset if their rights are the same as the rights of the Ashkenazi, you might discover that you have been fed a line of BS that you take as straight talk.
allen heart
January 25th, 2012 at 10:46 pm
It has never been proved that Oswald pulled the trigger. Trees obscured a direct shot, Oswald was seen in the lunchroom before and immediately after, Gerald Ford tampered with testimony… Jack Ruby a.k. a. Jacob Rubinstein was a thug of the Jewish Mafia including the Meyer Lansky gang that Castro had just booted out of the lucrative casinos and prostitution under Batista.
John
January 25th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Crewmen of the U.S.S. Liberty have stated that Israeli torpedo boats went right up to the ship and its crewmen were laughing as they picked up uninflated life boats from the sea. The Israelis excel at murder. If something were to devestate that evil "country," I would jump up and down and pump my fist into the air.
Jeff
January 25th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Wow – I see you reall y do have hard proof and its a recreation of a conspiracy on youtube. Let me guess, you can also find some hard hitting facts on wikipedia and on a serious blog you found.
Do you unnderstand how rediculous this is … typical Israel bashing/anti-semitims… Like the blood libels who blamed the Jews for killing christrian children to make their matza. Its the Elders of Zion all over again……
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Tim
January 26th, 2012 at 7:54 am
There is free lance terrorism and state-sponsored terrorism. The truth is clandestine intelligence agencies have often mingled with and encouraged terrorist organizations. I think it was Victor Ostrovsky who claimed Carlos the Jackel had a Mossad minder for years informing Tel Aviv of his every move. They permitted Carlos to go on his killing rampage as part of a strategy of tension.
At first blush it is ironic that the Israelis would concoct their own "Gleiwitz" conspiracy but upon further reflection it really isn't surprising. States are pyschopathic institutions and they do horrible things. That the Israeli government often deceives and acts ruthlessly is not surprising nor does it distinguish them from most other governments. The crimes of the CIA are legend.
Jaime
January 26th, 2012 at 8:20 am
Why don't you just answer Jeffiano's point about the USS iberty? Is It so hard? You talk so much about Hizbollah when Israel is much more murderous. Do you think Israeli nuclear weapons is also a figment of Jew haters' imagination? How about Vanunu's photos showing the existence of nuclear weapons in Israel? No reliable source? How about Shimon Peres. Former Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres has admitted that nuclear weapons are used by Israel for “compellent purposes” – i.e., forcing others to accept Israeli political demands.[
Jeff
January 26th, 2012 at 9:09 am
The Israelis knew the make and model of the…" of course it is all another big consipacy – dont u see how stupid this sounds. Israel/the Jes are responsible for all the problems in the world. Let me guess u hVave been reading enders of zion…
Lets start with the basics of democracy. Everyone has one equal vote. Anyone can be a elected to parliment. Everyone can be a supreme court judge (there is an Arab supreme court judge. Everyone has freedom of speech, assembly, due process….. Tell me a single Arab country that can say that. Explain where the BS lies in there? Or simply dont answer and I will take it as an understanding that you realize you are wrong.
Jeff
January 26th, 2012 at 9:10 am
Enlighten everyone here to your proof. Then explain teh relevance of what happended 45 years ago, today.
Jeff
January 26th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Once agian explain teh relevnace of what might of happened 45 years ago to today. Now name one Arab country that is less evil then Israel and explain why… Ill give you a few catagories you can pick… voting, freedom of press, gay rights, or simply suprise mewith a diffrent human right..
Jeff
January 26th, 2012 at 9:21 am
I remember cast lead – 6000 rocket shot from civillian homes at civillians. I remember the terrorists who use homes, schools and mosques as shelter while firing rockets. "If you go to sleep with a missle in your home, dont be suprised if you dont wake up".I remember terrorsit who target a school bus with an RPG… sick people. Many civillian died they are called human sheilds. If Isreal reallly wanted to kill civillians there would be tens of thousands dead. Instaed they send flyer, texts, calls to the locals to say to move they were going to bomb…. check your facts dude
Jeff
January 26th, 2012 at 9:25 am
The war in Gaza last one month – hundred of bombs were dropped in the most dense area in the world yet only 1400 people died? Assad did that with light wepons in teh same period of time. Each bomb could kill a hundred people. EVer ask yourself, if Israel really wanted to kill civillian with the bigget and heaviest bombs in the world, why there where not tens of thousands dead?
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robertsgt40
January 26th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Actually, if we reinstitute the Constitution and the rule of law, we'll have a better chance. Fat chance
Jeff
January 26th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Regarding the Liberty – it does not matter an incedent that 34 soldiers were killed 45 years ago with no concrete proof, just the word of one man out of a couple hundred others… – this is the best you can do? Its a joke.
As for Nukes, I think it is great that everyone thinks Israel has nukes (I assume that hasve it as well)…keeps the neighborhood relatively in check. As opposed to Iran who keeps on threatening its neigbors Israel does no such think….
As for these political demands that all countries bow to…..what are you talking about? there are more resolutions against Israel tahn any other country in the world. If this is the purpose of nukes then they are not doing a very good job…
Find a real issue with real facts and lets discuss conspiracies are for choldren and really bored adults looking to place blame.
allen heart
January 26th, 2012 at 5:16 pm
OK, a basis for a democracy, a republic, is a constitution. Israel doesn't have one.
In the place I come from, different kinds of people have different rights and responsibilities. Usually, people with many rights have few responsibilities. Some of the people must serve in the army on pain of imprisonment; others are exempted. Of those exempted, some belong to the elite and enjoy unusual benefits; others belong to minorities with very few rights.
…
In the place I come from, my religion was decided for me by the State and is coded into the internal passport required by my government. Trying to officially change my religion could be a useless lifelong struggle.
In the place I come from, I can marry a Christian in a church; but the ceremony will not be recognized by the state and my children will be bastards and denied many rights because my parents were Jews. There are no civil ceremonies and one must get married in the temple belonging to the religion indicated on the internal passport.
I come from Israel. – R'oi Tov
http://www.roytov.com/articles/constitution.htm
allen heart
January 26th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
…the infamous Basic Laws cannot be seen as an alternative Constitution. Yet, the [Israeli] Declaration of Independence has an important role in Israel’s legal system, which despite not being a Constitution, it approximates it. The declaration assures complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex, and guarantees freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture. This was a must for Ben Gurion, since the UN conditioned Israel’s independence on a respectful attitude towards human rights. Thus, his team drafted a document promising that but void of power – R'oi Tov
http://www.roytov.com/articles/constitution.htm
allen heart
January 26th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
Surprise, Jeff! Clean water. By the end of October 2011…. [m]ore than 63 years after having been conquered by Israel, the houses in the Palestinian neighborhood of Samech Het [ in Lod] have just been connected to the municipal water system.
Palestinian neighborhoods are neglected; the Jewish ones look as being a suburb of Tel Aviv.
http://www.roytov.com/articles/lod.htm
allen heart
January 26th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Knowing that collective punishment is a crime against humanity, Israel needed to keep the death toll below the level that would test the tolerance of the people of the world.
Ever ask yourself if one child, one woman, one man is an acceptable fatality for you?
Jaime
January 26th, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Yes, when something doesn't agree with your propaganda, then it's an "incident" that doesn't matter. What do you think the people on the USS Liberty or their relatives think about that? By the way, you just showed how Israelis and their supporters (Israel firsters) feel about other people's lives and suffering (thanks for the insight). You don't even address Vanunu's real information or Peres's statemets, which shows the way you debate: ignore facts if they don't support your twisted perception.
Jeff
January 27th, 2012 at 1:00 am
Allen – firstly, the basis for a democracy is only that each person has one equal vote. That is all.
You have this speech on responsibilities…what does that have to do with democracy.The fact tha you have complaints about YOUR government is not special EVERYONE has complaints – look at the occupied movement in the states, the protests in Greece, Italy, the ralllies in France. The fact that you can protest and elect a body to make chnage is exactly what a democracy is….
As for Religion, as far as I understand there is no such term religon on you internal passport – there used to be term nationality – which has since been removed. How anyone can change their nationaility is beyond me – magic maybe….
As for religion, if there were enough people who didnt like it they would voter to change it – see the definision of democracy above.
In my country every citizen has a right to vote. In my country I have the freedom to protest against my governmnet in public. In my country I recieve due process and a fair trial with an independent judicial system and a media not controled by the government.
I come from Israel as well….
Jeff
January 27th, 2012 at 1:02 am
Explain why teh Libert incedent matters so much that every Israel – basher has to bring up this same conspiracy 45 years later please….
Not sure what I ignored I said "I think it is great that everyone thinks Israel has nukes (I assume that hasve it as well)…keeps the neighborhood relatively in check." – I did not say any of it wasnt true – to the contrary – please explain what is missing inmy answer
Jeff
January 27th, 2012 at 1:04 am
Civillian deaths are horrible and they shoudl be avoided. But people die in war, that is a fact. Had Israel not had 6000 rocket shot into its cities by terrorist there would be no war. If you are looking for someone to blame, look at your terrorist friend Hamas who shhot missiles from inner cities. For Arabs, unfortunately a dead baby makes great news.
Jeff
January 27th, 2012 at 1:07 am
Let m eget this straight. You have an issue that illegally built houses in Lod were not connected to the water system. Doi you know many home is Lod Ramle etc… are built without permits – it makes the settlement look like a joke.. You know home many JEWSISH porches, split apartment basements in TLV were torn down by the municipality and reciebd obscene fines. Its called the basic rule of law…
Jeff
January 27th, 2012 at 1:11 am
Once again a democracy does not require a constitution. There is an independednt Judicial system that 15 years ago started to use teh basic laws for Judicial Review (I suggest you look that up) which in essence turns it into a consitution. Bythe way do you know what the diffrence between a basic law and a constitution even is or you just repeating propaganda you heard?
I suggest you go live in an Arab coutry in the area and enjoy their rights there for a while…then you can feel free to complain here all you want. Do you even knwo what it is like to live in a Muslim coutry – is taht what you prefer. Israel has one of teh highest ranking on the Freedom House – in terms of right – look it up…
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EuroMass
January 29th, 2012 at 9:40 am
There are currently 35 statutes on the books relegating Israeli Arabs into second class citizens [yes, Israeli "citizens"]… as to the West Bank & Gaza Palestinians, they are treated simply as dogs if not worse, either way you twist it..
EuroMass
January 29th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Israel may be our "only" friend in the Middle East but then before 1948 we had no enemies either! LOL
Jeff
January 29th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
35 is alot – name 5…then tell me the name of teh Arab country whose citizens have more rights than Israeli Arabs. As for the WB and Gaza Arabs – I agree 95% of them are under Arab rule, would you expect anything more?
EuroMass
January 31st, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Just abandoning denial & some rudimentary reading – including Haaretz – will do.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/24/world/la-… http://www.middleeastmonitor.org.uk/resources/bri… http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/isra… http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2012/01/10/18704… http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3622276… http://mazinx.wordpress.com/discrimination-agains…
jeff
February 1st, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Not one article mentioned any statuses on the books the turn Arabs into second class citizens. Fact is there is discrimination against Arabs much like discrimination against Blacks, on an INDIVIDUAL level.
Other facts – Arabs seperate themselves from Israeli society, they do not do teh army or national service, build homes with permits, do not pay property tax, (thats why their villages look liek they do) and women dont usually join the workforce (lower incomes).
The fact that Israeli is a Jewish state for all its citizen. Not only did you not back-up your statement with a single statute, you have yet to name an arab state were Arabs have more rights…
ch162
February 1st, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I read teh articles did you? I still am waiting to see a statue that is anti- arab.. I will make it easier name 3 or even one… I also have yet to see you name a country in the mideast where Arabs have more rights then the Arabs who are citizens of teh Jewish state – u sorta just skipped over that didnt you..
AngelaKeaton
February 1st, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Don't post under multiple names.
EuroMass
February 3rd, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Since Israeli Arabs have it so fabulous, why not extend Israel citizenship to the WB & Gaza Palestinians as well in exchange for anschlussing WB & Gaza into a Greater Israel the Zionists always coveted? After all, the whole premise of this sorry geopolitical experiment is that Jews were there 2000 years ago – but so were the predecessors of the modern-day Palestinians – & they were the SAME people back in the day. So be the same people again & leave everybody else out of the juvenile antics of who prays at what wall or who has a trailer on what hilltop, because the world is REALLY sick of it by now. Nothing but evil & trouble ever came from the Middle East.
ch162
February 4th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Hi – was it only me that noticed you went on to ranting instaed of actually answering teh questions posed to you. I am guessing that says it all. Regarding teh "Nothing but evil & trouble ever came from the Middle East. Regarding "Nothing but evil & trouble ever came from the Middle East." I would remind you that it was rge cradle of civiliazation and the formation of the three mono thesitic religions that came from there. Regarding evil I think you eropeans know enough about it first hand…. I suggest you look at your recent history if you are looking for teh true face of evil…
EuroMass
February 4th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Wrong. The "Judeo-Christian" garbage is way overrated. The European civilization is rooted in the rich cultural & political experience of the Ancient Greece & Rome, not in mutant versions of a desert religion. Bastardized Judaism (or Judaism for gentiles) threw Europe back for a thousand years marked by ignorance & witch burning. Yes, all thee monotheistic religions stemming from & revolving around the idea of filicide are twisted & sick & have been doing human kind a great disservice ever since their appearance. Romans should have done to Jerusalem what they did to Carthage & nipped the early "Christianity" in the bud – we wouldn't have this discussion here now & the Middle East & world indeed would be a much jollier place.
EuroMass
February 11th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/08/…
SURPRISE! LOL
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Don
February 26th, 2012 at 4:45 am
The Rothschild Zionist gang has assasinated or attempted to assainate many US presidents and other heads of state going back to the 1700's.
http://www.tomatobubble.com/fh1.html
had enough
February 26th, 2012 at 11:35 am
u remember cast lead? do u remember the millions of bombs dropped from planes that went into the gaza strip? do u remember isrl broke the cease fire? do u remember the isrlies who shot rockets then said the pals did it then when proven isrl did i, t isrl said it was a mistake? A MISTAKE WAS WHAT THEY SAID!! of course not but u remember the 6000 rockets? do u remember when gaza was being starved to death? why else would they fight back if not to defend their lives and families!! but of course u only hear what you want to hear when it comes to isrl.. u are an isrlie firster.. the worst kind of treason to ur country..please learn about sirls history read watch anythign then come back and tell us the pals have no rights to self defense. because in my world we all have the right to self defense when it comes to occupation, and isrl is an occupation.. occupied by theives and liars and yet u r defnding them by only stating the pals so called terrroism.. isrlie firsters are the worst kind of people because they never see the big picture and only report the things that others do to isrl and never ask why they are doing it in the first place.. please learn some facts then come back and tell us u defend isrl right to stolen land..
had enough
February 26th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
jeff, have you heard of operation Beirut?
ibrahim
February 26th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
what a deliscious nisprint !!
been reading enders of zion…
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