On Indefinite Detention: The Tyranny Continues
Listen to Rep. Paul deliver this address.
The bad news from last week’s passage of the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act is that Americans can still be arrested on U.S. soil and detained indefinitely without trial. Some of my colleagues would like us to believe that they fixed last year’s infamous Sections 1021 and 1022 of the NDAA, which codified into law the unconstitutional notion that some Americans are not subject to the protections of the Constitution. However, nothing in this year’s bill or amendments to the bill restored those constitutional rights.
Supporters of the one amendment that passed on this matter were hoping no one would notice that it did absolutely nothing. The amendment essentially stated that those entitled to habeas corpus protections are hereby granted habeas corpus protections. Thanks for nothing!
As Steve Vladeck, of American University’s law school, wrote of this amendment:
Just to be clear, the Gohmert Amendment does nothing whatsoever to address the central objections to the Chairman’s Mark vis-a-vis domestic detention, which are that it (1) merely provides by statute a remedy that is already available to individuals detained within the United States, and (2) says nothing about the circumstances in which individuals might actually be subject to military detention when arrested within the territorial United States (that is, whether individuals using the provided-for remedy might actually prevail). Anyone within the United States who was subject to military detention before the FY2013 NDAA would be subject to it afterward, as well….
Actually, the amendment in question makes matters worse, as it states that anyone detained on U.S. soil has the right to file a writ of habeas corpus “within 30 days” of arrest. In fact, persons detained on U.S. soil already have the right to file a habeas petition immediately upon arrest!
I co-sponsored an amendment [.pdf] offered by Reps. Adam Smith and Justin Amash that would have repealed the unconstitutional provisions of last year’s NDAA by eliminating Section 1022 on mandatory military detention and modifying Section 1021 to make it absolutely clear that no one can be apprehended on U.S. soil and held indefinitely without trial or be held subject to a military tribunal. Our language was clear: “No person detained, captured, or arrested in the United States, or a territory or possession of the United States, may be transferred to the custody of the Armed Forces for detention under the Authorization for Use of Military Force, this Act, or the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013.”
The term “person” is key in our amendment, as our Founders did not make a distinction between citizens and non-citizens when determining who was entitled to constitutional protections. As the father of the Constitution, James Madison, wrote, “[I]t does not follow, because aliens are not parties to the Constitution, as citizens are parties to it, that whilst they actually conform to it, they have no right to its protection.”
We should not forget that our Article III court system is a strength, not a weakness. The right to face our accuser, the protections against hearsay evidence, the right to a jury trial — these are designed to protect the innocent and to determine and then punish guilt. And they have been quite successful thus far. Currently there are more than 300 individuals who have been tried and convicted of terrorism-related charges serving lengthy terms in U.S. federal prisons. Each of the six individuals tried in U.S. civilian courts for the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center are serving hundreds of years in prison, for example.
Last week was discouraging and disappointing to those of us who value our Constitution. That the U.S. government asserts the legal authority to pick up Americans within the United States and hold them indefinitely and secretly without a trial should be incredibly disturbing to all of us. Americans should check how their representatives voted. Politicians should not be allowed to get away with undermining our liberties in this manner.
Read more by Rep. Ron Paul
- What No One Wants to Hear About Benghazi – May 13th, 2013
- Liberty Was Also Attacked in Boston – April 28th, 2013
- Congress Exploits Our Fears to Take Our Liberty – April 21st, 2013
- Why Can’t We All Travel To Cuba? – April 15th, 2013
- Neo-Con War Addiction Threatens Our Future – March 24th, 2013





RickR30
May 21st, 2012 at 9:48 pm
Dumb question- how is it that Congress can pass unconstitutional laws to begin with and have the idiot of the moment in the WH sign them? There is no agency that can bar such a thing from happening- Justice department, WH lawyers (assuming they're actually looking at the legality of things)? Is such a law in effect, until what, someone sues, is lucky enough to be attended by courts, and somehow makes it to the Supreme Court? Not even in the third world countries can the Constitution be abused that easily.
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Johnny in Wi.
May 21st, 2012 at 10:47 pm
They sure have made toilet paper of the Constitution. I hate it when we have to depend on the Courts to straighten thing out. They have made plenty of stupid mistakes themselves. The Congress and President are supposed to uphold the Constitution, not destroy it.
greedrulesin dc
May 22nd, 2012 at 4:07 am
If you really feel that strongly about it, Ron Paul, shed your advisers and the Republican Party and run as an independent. If you don't do that, you're just an ineffective politician who believes in the right causes, but won't stick his neck out. Happy retirement, Dr. Paul. Things could have been so much better.
Benny Adelstein
May 22nd, 2012 at 7:46 am
I don’t know why anyone ever thought Obama would stand up for our rights any more than Bush did. I bet his voters were disappointed after he signed the NDAA, allowing indefinite detention of American citizens. Luckily, citizens and state governments alike are starting to fight back against it (more about that here: http://www.martiallawusa.com/wp/?p=45) If Obama thinks he can subjugate the American people that easily, he’s got another thing coming…
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youngunbd
June 5th, 2012 at 9:24 am
Obama has the same/worse policies as bush, and romney will be the same/worse than obama. Running as a republican really is Dr. Pauls only way at winning, if you look at the REAL delegate counts (not ones put up by the media) then you will realize there will be one hell of an upset at the RNC. With the media uproar people will finally begin to research Paul, then he will steamroll the living whatever out of Obummer, and fast track to the White House. Yes he still gets to deal with the same stupid congress, but at least he will try instead of sitting back and always saying that congress just won't cooperate