The American Empire of today was born in the Balkans, during the 1990s interventions in Bosnia and Serbia. It was there that the concept of "benevolent global hegemony" was tested and cloaked in the rhetoric of "humanitarian intervention" and "preventing genocide." Last year, starting with the establishment of the "Independent state of Kosovo" and culminating with the installation of a client regime in Serbia, was the pinnacle of Empire’s success, a "victory" that stood out from the colossal failures of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Yet the only actual victory was that of wishful thinking over reality. No amount of American force, bribes or propaganda has sufficed to conjure into being a Bosnian nation-state, while the quisling regime in Serbia, slavishly devoted to its foreign masters, nonetheless began to look elsewhere when it became blindingly obvious that Uncle Sam’s coffers were oh so very empty.
On October 20, Russian president Dimitry Medvedev visited Belgrade. The occasion was the anniversary of the Soviet Army’s liberation of Belgrade during World War Two, but Medvedev’s visit was only partly ceremonial. He brought money, a military cooperation deal, and an offer of friendship — all of which have so far been the exclusive prerogative of Serbia’s Western overlords.
Meanwhile, over in Bosnia, the U.S.-EU initiative to fundamentally change the Dayton Peace Agreement ended in a fiasco, with all three ethnic communities rejecting the proposals presented, albeit for different reasons. Although Washington and Brussels theoretically have near-absolute power in Bosnia, through their "High Representative" and de facto viceroy, the improvised and half-baked nature of the Butmir proposals illustrated the very real limitations of that power.
Fiasco in Butmir
When it was first announced that the Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt and the U.S. Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg would be coming to Bosnia with a super-secret proposal for constitutional reform, this was hyped as the Second Coming of Dayton. Even the location chosen for the talks — a NATO base near Sarajevo — seemed to have been chosen to echo the events of November 1995, when the Bosnian War was finally brought to an end at Wright-Patterson AFB outside Dayton, Ohio. Based on the parallels with Dayton, there were even rumors in the local media that Bildt and Steinberg would sequester the seven Bosnian politicians at the Butmir base and not let them leave until an agreement was reached.
Imagine everyone’s surprise, then, when the "talks" adjourned after just one day, when it turned out that Americans and Europeans weren’t reading from the same script.
By October 20, when the talks reconvened, the supposedly revolutionary plan was revealed as a rehash of the "April package," a set of constitutional reforms that failed three years ago. Back then, the much-stronger Empire managed to coerce the Bosnian lawmakers to vote on a set of constitutional amendments changing the nature of all three branches of Bosnia’s government. At the last minute, though, a motley coalition led by the Empire’s protégé, Muslim nationalist Haris Silajdzic, put together enough votes to scuttle the bill. Though it would routinely sack or even arrest Serb and Croat officials accused of obstruction, this time around the Empire did absolutely nothing. Silajdzic went on to win the Muslim vote in the presidential elections that fall.
Though the legions of foreign do-gooders employed in Bosnian nation-building most often point at Bosnian Serb Prime Minister Milorad Dodik as their principal adversary, it was their failure to react to Silajdzic’s April adventure that fatally undermined the "international community" in Bosnia.
Not surprisingly, while the Serbs and the Croats rejected the "new" set of proposals because they would have stripped them of autonomy guaranteed by the Dayton agreement, the Muslims — Silajdzic in particular — also rejected the proposals, complaining they did not go far enough in giving them control. Not much has changed since Dayton, then. There, an American diplomat "who had devoted years of his life to the search for ways to help create a Bosnian state" declared, "These people are impossible to help."
The second round of talks adjourned on Wednesday. They will supposedly continue, and the viceroy has tried to put the best face on them, but the failure of the latest grand initiative to remake Bosnia is more than readily apparent.
Even the most devoted partisans of Bosnian nation building agree. One longtime interventionist demanded that the answer to this "clear failure" be a renewed commitment to viceroy’s personal rule — what this column has termed democratorship. To them, everything boils down to triumph of the will; yet it is far from certain that the Empire has much will left, as its political, economic and military capital continues to dwindle.
The Bear Cometh
One of the chief differences between the Butmir talks and Dayton was the glaring absence of Russians. Though Moscow had sent an ambassador to Dayton, and formally has a seat on the Peace Implementation Council — a committee run by the Empire officially overseeing the Bosnian protectorate — under Yeltsin Russia’s role in the Balkans has been that of an observer, giving legitimacy to Imperial designs but unable to affect them in any way.
That role has shifted over the past decade, first with the withdrawal of Russian troops from NATO missions in Bosnia and Kosovo, and then with Moscow’s support for Serbia regarding the status of its occupied southern province. Ironically, though the Western media have insisted on Serbia and Russia being "traditional allies" (just as they have insisted on inflating the Bosnian death tolls), the last time that was actually the case was in 1917, before the Red revolution.
The current Serbian government, a ragtag coalition of former Communist fractions re-branded as progressives, democrats, and liberals, came into being as a quisling regime of the EU and the U.S. Now, however, as the influence of both is on the wane, they have welcomed Medvedev in Belgrade.
In addition to pledges of continued support for Serbia’s territorial problem, Medvedev brought a $1 billion loan and reaffirmed Moscow’s commitment to the South Stream gas pipeline. Earlier this year, a new and pro-Washington government in Bulgaria halted its participation in South Stream in favor of the American-sponsored Nabucco. That doesn’t seem to have discouraged Moscow any.
Belgrade has also made overtures to Beijing, which President Tadic visited in August. Following the visit, he spoke of China and Russia as two of the "pillars" of Serbian diplomacy — the other two being Europe and the U.S., presumably. What has prompted this seeming departure from a policy of unconditional sycophancy to the West?
One explanation is that the EU integration, major investments and incentives the quisling government promised the voters last year have completely failed to materialize. Having promised the people a better life in exchange for Kosovo and liberty, the government is in a position where it cannot deliver. Hence the desperate search for friends (and lenders) from Beijing to Moscow. Ideologically, Tadic and his cohorts still wish to be a province of the Empire. Reality, however, demands they go with where the money is.
Devotion for Sale
The American Empire asserted itself at the end of the Cold War by the power of its consumerist economy as much as by the force of arms. Now the arms are stuck to the tar babies of Iraq and Afghanistan, while consumer dreams are sinking along the toxic assets and fictitious derivatives that made them possible. Even in the Balkans, where the Empire first asserted itself and claimed the power to change reality with mere willpower, that weakness is beginning to be felt. The downside of creating client states is that they expect their charity check on a regular basis. When the Empire can no longer pay up, it will find the friendship and devotion of its Balkans "allies" for sale to whoever can. Whether that is Moscow, Beijing or someone else, only time will tell.
Read more by Nebojsa Malic
- Victory Day – May 10th, 2013
- Consenting to Rape – April 25th, 2013
- An Unexpected Refusal – April 12th, 2013
- Lawless: An Oddly Exceptional Empire – March 28th, 2013
- Illusion of Triumph – March 21st, 2013





Sara
October 25th, 2009 at 4:32 am
Someone please get this guy off antiwar.com. He is just rehashing the old nationalist propaganda of a multi-ethnic (and anti-fascist) Bosnia being an unsustainable country that Milosevic, Karadzic and company have been spreading since the early 1990s. It's the same tired old Serb paranoia cloaked in anti-imperialism. Don't buy it!
MvGuy
October 25th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Welcome to the big tent antiwar.com Sara……. Even you are welcome….. I tried to find your comment stream, but I can't….. so I will werk with what I've been given…. As far as.. "Someone please get this guy off antiwar.com" Perhaps we should get all the representatives & victims of all the American onslaughts off to some far away domain with no dot com. Imagine how it would be a cleansing, for If no one notices that you are dirty, are you really dirty..?? And we would could rest assured by all that no pressure, well except the …."NATO's bombing campaign lasting from March 22 to June 11, 1999, involving up to 1,000 aircraft operating mainly from bases in Italy and aircraft carriers stationed in the Adriatic and Tomahawk cruise missiles were also extensively used, fired from aircraft, ships and submarines. All of the NATO members were involved to some degree—even Greece, despite its public opposition to the war. Over the ten weeks of the conflict, NATO aircraft flew over 38,000 combat missions. For the German Air Force (Luftwaffe) it was the first time it had participated in a conflict since World War II' though one doesn't need to view the 'air' aspect of these discussions a coercion.
Perhaps you [Sara] should write a column too and represent the Pro multi-ethnic (and anti-fascist) Bosnia being a sustainable [defendable too ??] state entity point of view…. I wonder though, who the fascists will be, in this version of the story…
The Truth Hurts
October 25th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
MvGuy, maybe you should start a column defending the Nazis during WWII. After all, they too suffered from "imperialist" aggression by the Big Powers.
It's interesting that you don't mention the 3.5 year siege by Serb forces, where 10,000 people were killed (many of them Serbs), or the fact that throughout Bosnia, 100,000 people were slaughered, 84% of the civilian casualties being Bosniaks. No, you would rather focus on the 3 week air strikes on Serbia. You are balanced, indeed.
Btw, everybody, ever wondered what the world would be like if Hitler had not lost and if he had been given Poland too? Welcome to the Republika Srpska.
antiamanpour
October 26th, 2009 at 12:21 am
Mr Malic raises a very good point in highlighting the CIA-puppet Borisov regime Sofia, an dim ex-Fireman and the ex-Bodygaurd of stalinist dictator Zhivkov who seems to think he's a filmstar and whose wife is a ex-party owner of a private Bank involved in laundering drug money, this just the sort of puppet governance that is music to the ears of Washington and Brussels yet is a disaster for the impoverished populace
MetaCynic
October 26th, 2009 at 12:29 am
Gee Sara, since the West, led by the U.S., saw no reason to respect the internationally recognized territorial integrity of Yugoslavia, then why should the internal administrative boundaries of the various republics as drawn up by Tito be respected by anyone?
Frederick Hanson
October 26th, 2009 at 5:54 am
Wow… I thought this website was called antiwar. I am never donating to this website again knowing that the likes of Nebojsa Malic are allowed to spew age-old Chetnik ideology fascism. Ridiculous. This writer is so ridiculously pro-Serb that he even refrains from using the term Bosniaks to describe many Bosnians, but uses "Muslims" instead to feed on Islamophobia. Just wow. It's ANTI-war.com Not Chetnik-ambitions.com
Sirmium
October 26th, 2009 at 6:04 am
Not all of Malic's columns have substance. Some seem to come during lulls in the region and there just isn't much to observe. On the other hand, this one is pertinent and fresh. Dayton is a failure but messing with Dayton in a way that antagonizes any one of the ethnic groups to conflict would be an even bigger failure. The fact that nobody can enforce these new "negotiations" by diktat shows that EU/US power is steeply in decline. Whether Russia is actually going to stand behind these gestures is another story. The consistent problem in the Russian-Balkan relationship has been geographic separation and the antipathy between Bulgaria and Serbia. With a somewhat amicable Serbian/Bulgarian/Montenegrin/Greek bloc, Russia would be in a position to influence events in the Mediterranean region in a way it hasn't before, Turkish objections notwithstanding. The buy-up of vast swathes of property in Montenegro by Russians, the South-Stream deals with Serbia, Greece, and Bulgaria, are no accident and they are not just there to obviate stubborn Ukraine (which folds, anyway, when it comes to gas). They represent an attempt by Russia to more directly insert itself into Western European and Mediterranean affairs by a two-pronged approach: directly to Germany on the one hand and via the Black sea and the Balkans into southern Europe on the other. The recent rapprochement between Turkey and Armenia and the coddling of Iran is also no accident and is a Russian attempt to solidify the entire peri-Caspian region and indeed, Black Sea region, into an area blocking US/EU intrusion (Turkey's never getting in the EU, btw, and Russia knows that).
Bojan
October 26th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Oh, Sara is just pulling the oldest trick in the book, no big deal.
By attempting to legitimize her preferred side in Bosnia with the "anti-fascist", label, she's trying to discredit Mr. Malic's point as, well, a fascist one.
Unfortunately for Sara, there still are quite a few of us who dare to remember the region's history. The ANTI-FASCIST Bosnia was BY LARGE the Serbian thing in WW2, since the bulk of the anti-fascist resistance in that area came from the local Serbs, who found themselves under both Nazi occupation and Ustasha (Croat Nazi) genocide.
While Bill Clinton's(and Sara's) beloved 'secular Muslim leader' Alija Izetbegovic was himself the jolly old veteran of the infamous Bosnian Muslim SS Hanjar (Knife) Division, responsible for the horrid atrocities against Bosnian Serbs, Jews and Roma.
In addition to that, the initial sentiment in the eve of the 1990's Bosnian war was the shameless REVIVAL of the Croat-Muslim Nazi and genocidal symbolism, aimed to scare and shock the Serbs in Bosnia by reminding them what had happened the last time Croat and Muslims tied their flags together in 1941-45 (see Jasenovac concentration camps, Ustasha war crimes, 'Independent State of Croatia' and so on!).
If there is anything that the Antiwar.com's stuff should do about comment section in Mr. Malic column, discouraging the rabid WW2 revisionism would be a good start. One doesn't have to be a Serbian nationalist (or a Serb whatsoever!) to find him/herself disgusted by the shameless orgy of this fact-twisting, Ustasha-and-Nazi-apologizing, Marko-Atila-Hoare-quoting, Franjo-Tudjman-celebrating Stormfront-type crap that's been haunting this section for the several weeks so far.
That being said, there is plenty of room to agree or disagree with Malic on the Balkan politics, but not by mocking the WW2 victims of Nazi and Ustasha crimes by questioning them or denying the atrocious fascist crimes against the Serbs of Bosnia. And that was ALL that this bunch of Malic-haters is doing all the time, lamely concealing their rabid Serbophobia and wicked Ustasha revisionism by attacking the man on ad hominem bases.
Bojan
October 26th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
PS
@ F. Hanson
The whole Bosnian/Bosniak confusion took place not by Malic but Bosniaks (or Bosnian Muslims) themselves, and stop pretending that it was any other way around. The Bosnian Muslims, back in 1990s – having had to choose their own name to describe their newly-acquired national sovereignty – initially tried to use the "Bosnian" (Bosanac, bosanski) label, originally meant as a word of a REGIONAL distinction, and traditionally used in such manner by all people of Bosnia equally. Serbs, Croats and Muslims. Prior to the 1990's, Bosnian Muslims were recognized AS A DISTINCTIVE NATION in the former Yugoslavia, by their religious name (probably the unique case in the world).
So, since the identity-theft of exclusive takeover of "Bosnian" name strictly for themselves (excluding the country's Serbs and Croats), they went with the "Bosniac" label (originated in the Turkish name for the people of Bosnia). Quite a mesh, ha, esp. for a foreign reader. I guess that's the reason the Bosnian Muslims are still being called Bosnian Muslims by the media in English (needless to say, fanatically dedicated to their side, the most of them) – simply in order to describe one of the leading three groups in the country without mixing it with other two, not to deny their existence.
Either you have a proof that Mr. Malic is the one who holds the commanding post for the Balkan desks over at the CNN or BBC, or you are just being cartoonishly paranoid.
conumishu
October 26th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
It's commendable to love your own in a world of shifting loyalties and moral "relativity". But even more commendable is the effort to "translate" for a cultivated audience the realities from his native region. The difference between the level of American pundits' analysis (concerning this area) and that of Malic's is the difference between kindergarten and political science.
The level of intellectual honesty is determined by the simple fact he is unwilling to reduce the picture to simplistic memes "adjusted" to fit the preconceptions of the day.
Any attempt to change American policy has no chance unless the change starts from within American society. As much as I'd like to think antiwar and other voices opposed to an imperial America gain momentum, the reality of today's world offers no reason for optimism. Similarily, if only Americans could find a way to change (for the better) something in their country, they will have no chance to positively influence the world by listening to their own propaganda and the various opportunists their government spreads all around.
antiamanpour
October 26th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
After the US in November 1990 cut the Federal Markovic government off..Slovenia and Croatia to leave the sinkinking ship, thinking they'd be first in the queue to join Genscher's Mittleuropa which they duly did in July 1991, but thing got very messy and Krajina Serbs made massive inroads in Autumn 1991 almost taking the adriatic coast at Zadar and within shelling range of Zagreb…Now if that had continued Zagreb would have capitulated and some sort of truncated Croatia would have resulted. BUT the US and NATO stepped, and saw the opportunity TAKE THE BOSNIAN TRIANGLE OUT and the Krajina Serbs are crippled as Krajina Serb territory was adjacent to the republic…So thats why Izetbegovic was told to renage on the January 1992 power sharing accord and do everything possible to maximize war…The rest is just PR spin.
Suvorov
October 26th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Frederick Hanson,
How much have you donated so far?
Dara Bubamara
October 27th, 2009 at 3:15 am
"The difference between the level of American pundits' analysis (concerning this area) and that of Malic's is the difference between kindergarten and political science."
That may be true, too bad that Mr. Malic has a PhD in Serbian Nationalism.
Una
October 27th, 2009 at 4:30 am
first, you have no citations in your articles, i.e. there are no authorities to back up your vexatious claims. I do not know what exactly your credentials are or if you have any. Without credible sources, your article may as well be based on mere hearsay . Second and most importantly, the facts in the Balkans are that the economies of Bosnia and Serbia are indisputably lagging behind the rest of Europe. Basic infrastructure, e.g. roads, energy plants, hospitals, etc, is in a terrible condition. I suggest that you allocate your energy to the desperately needed economic development rather than frivolous claims.
Una
October 27th, 2009 at 4:30 am
Last, note that both Bosnian and Serbian politicians live like lords in their fiefdoms at the expense of the "peasants/indentured servants," i.e. ordinary citizens. More or less, there is no civil society, e.g.. think-tanks, lobby and interest groups, through which citizens canengage to influence their representatives. Moreover, educational institutions lack funds to invest in research (whether scientific or political), adequately compensate professors, supply classrooms with computers and internet, publish new books (sadly, copyright law is virtually non-existent), etc. To summarize my last two points, the Balkans lack elements of a sophisticated society. A reasonable person can conclude that many more priorities need to be addressed for the Balkans to catch up to the rest of the developed world rather than your simplistic and frivolous claims.
Suvorov
October 27th, 2009 at 5:18 am
Yes, they are so primitive that they don't even have AEI or even Heritage Foundation. Not to mention the military-industrial complex, or other similar lobby groups that represent people's best interests. The only reason they are still alive somehow must be George Soros' endless generosity in funding the development of "civil society". By sharp contrast, the presence of these institutions in America is making the country stronger and stronger every day, especially in the economic sphere , as you all know.
P.S. And, Nebojsa Malic, don't you ever dare post another article here again without making references to Joe Biden, Richard Holbrooke, and other experts on the Balkans. Or you could simply post a link leading directly to NATO, following ICTY's excellent example.
Suvorov
October 27th, 2009 at 5:35 am
Una,
If you were looking for credentials, you probably meant to go on Marko Attila Hoare's blog. This place is primarily for people who want to know what is really going on in the world.
Emilyrose
October 27th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Talking of Bosnia – what on earth is Karadzic doing being tried for 'war crimes' in the Hague?
The world has moved on. For those of us willing to research the real truth about Sebrenica and so-called Bosnian Serb crimes, the truth is all over the internet, together with pictures of Bosnian muslims with bags of Serb's heads.
The Truth is out there – just the MSM is a farcical joke and continues with its manipulation and propaganda.
Lets have some real criminals in the dock of the Hague. Those who launched an illegal war against Iraq – 1,000,000 + dead. NATO continues on its vile and brutal mission to protect the heroin trade and the theft of central asian energy.
We now know Blair and co violated the UN charter on the rights of indigenous people – right here in Britain. – proposing ethno genocide of the English people.
Let Karadzic go and concentrate of the vilest of the vile. Clinton, Bush and Blair – for starters.
Sara
October 27th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
To anyone who may have stumbled on this blog in search of an objective analysis of Bosnia:
If you haven't already noticed by the comments of Emilyrose and others, this blog is a rallying ground for genocide deniers and Serb apologists. Mr. Malic is neither a historian nor a journalist.
Click here to read an insightful article (with actual sources!) about Mr. Malic and his work.
http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.com/2009/05/n…
Bob
October 27th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
" Talking of Bosnia – what on earth is Karadzic doing being tried for 'war crimes' in the Hague? "
Here is your answer.
COUNTS 1 and 2: GENOCIDE
Planned, instigated, ordered, committed and/or aided and abetted genocide against Bosnian Muslims (Bosniaks) and/or Bosnian Croats between March 1992 and November 1995.
The charge sheet refers to the physical destruction of ethnic groups through killings, torture, physical and psychological abuse, rape, other acts of sexual violence, inhumane living conditions, forced labour and the failure to provide adequate accommodation.
It specifically mentions a "joint criminal enterprise" in 1995 to eliminate the Bosniaks in Srebrenica by killing more than 7,000 men and boys, and forcibly removing the women, young children and some elderly men.
COUNT 3: PERSECUTIONS
Planned, instigated, ordered, committed and/or aided and abetted persecutions on political and/or religious grounds against Bosniaks and/or Bosnian Croats in some 20 municipalities between March 1992 and November 1995.
The aim of this persecution was to permanently remove Bosniaks and/or Bosnian Croats from the municipalities, and later to eliminate Bosniaks in Srebrenica.
Methods included arbitrary searches, arrest and detention, forcible transfer, forced labour (including digging graves), harassment, torture, rape, killing, and destruction of houses and sacred sites.
Bosniaks and Bosnian Croats were also used as human shields, removed from employment and denied the right to judicial process.
COUNTS 4, 5 and 6: EXTERMINATION, MURDER
Planned, instigated, ordered, committed and/or aided and abetted the extermination and murder of Bosniaks and Bosnian Croats in the municipalities, the extermination of Bosniaks from Srebrenica, and the mass killing of civilians in Sarajevo by shelling or snipers. Some 10,000 people died during the 44 month siege of the city.
Knew, or had reason to know, that extermination and murder were about to be or had been committed by his subordinates, and failed to stop them or punish the perpetrators.
COUNTS 7 and 8: DEPORTATION, INHUMANE ACTS
Planned, instigated, ordered, committed and/or aided and abetted the forcible transfer and deportation of Bosniaks and Bosnian Croats from the municipalities between March 1992 and November 1995.
In addition, he knew or had reason to know forcible transfer and deportation were about to be or had been committed by his subordinates and failed to stop them or punish the perpetrators.
Many forcibly displaced Bosniaks fled to Srebrenica where, from March 1995, shells and snipers were used to make life impossible for inhabitants and to forcibly remove the population.
COUNTS 9 and 10: TERROR, UNLAWFUL ATTACKS
Planned, instigated, ordered, committed and/or aided and abetted the crimes of terror and unlawful attacks on civilians between April 1992 and November 1995.
In addition, he knew or had reason to know such crimes were about to be or had been committed by his subordinates and failed to stop them or punish the perpetrators.
By using the Sarajevo Forces, he established and implemented a military strategy that used sniping and shelling to kill, maim, wound and terrorise the civilian inhabitants of Sarajevo.
The sniping and shelling killed and wounded thousands of civilians of both sexes and all ages, including children and the elderly.
COUNT 11: TAKING OF HOSTAGES
Planned, instigated, ordered, committed and/or aided and abetted the taking of UN military observers and peacekeepers as hostages between May and June 1995.
In addition, he knew or had reason to know such crimes were about to be or had been committed by his subordinates and failed to stop them or punish the perpetrators.
In order to prevent Nato from conducting air strikes against Bosnian Serb military targets, Bosnian Serb Forces detained more than 200 UN peacekeepers and military observers in various strategic locations to render them immune from air strikes.
Threats were issued that further Nato attacks would result in the injury, death, or continued detention of the detainees, some of whom were assaulted before being released in June 1995.
antiamanpour
October 27th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
I'm sure the CIAagent Mme Christane Amanpour is very busy on CNN latety ….can't be bother to watch such bilge to verify……..
Bojan
October 27th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Bob, do you have any (ANY) idea how many Serbs (civilians, women, children, elderly, POWs…) suffered the aforementioned atrocities at the hands of Muslim and Croat forces in Bosnia? Ever heard of the Sijekovac village where it all started, or looked up the happening in Sarajevo in the months prior to the war itself (not to mention the wartime experience of the city's Serbian population)? Or in the area surrounding Srebrenica, from 1992 until 1995?
If so, can you quote (even a remotely a similar) indictment issued by ICTY in regard to the crimes committed AGAINST the Serbs? Or instead, just quote the obscenely insulting case of Naser Oric, the Hague's favorite mass murderer in Bosnia so far.
That being said, I'm not lawyering Mr. Karadzic here, that's up to his defense team. I'm only suggesting that we can fire away the disturbing quotes both ways here, so stop acting like some ignorant copy/pasting cheerleader of Izetbegovic's evil regime
Maja
October 28th, 2009 at 1:54 am
"or looked up the happening in Sarajevo in the months prior to the war itself (not to mention the wartime experience of the city's Serbian population)?"
As a citizen of Sarajevo who survived the 44 month siege by Serb forces, I can tell you that more of my Serb neighbors died through the sniper hole of fellow Serbs than at the hands of their Muslim and Croat neighbors.
jaimojpas
October 28th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
How very strange to proclaim the stumbling stone of all problems -the official status of Bosnia and Herzegovina (this is the correct name)- a matter of frivolous claims! The maintenance of the semi-colonial status quo seem to have no bearing on what you claim to be "indisputable lagging behind the rest of Europe? Truly an Euro-centric view par exellence! So what you mean is why deal with trivialities such as who is in control of land, resources, education, healthcare, government, media. Why indeed?! But what makes you think that EU is a measuring stick for Bosnia and Serbia and for that matter for the rest of the world???
As to expressing your doubts about the author's credentials and absence of credible sources – at least you do not not go on decrying the author's "rehashing the old nationalist propaganda" and demands that he be shut up not in such terms. Since the author of this column, which has been running for quite some time, has been supporting the content of his so-called "rehashing" by almost vexatious repetition of verifiable sources I find your accusations to be missing the point. On the other hand official discourse and its inbedded media have dealt with the subject of the Balkans according to well rehearsed scenario and by repeating the same mantra over and over while routinely avoiding to give any verifiable sources to their (des)info. It is not very difficult to find the right information all it takes is a modicum of good will and openness.
jaimojpas
October 28th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Hm, a disciple of Mr.Hoare and faithful and avid reader his blog! That gentleman has been known for his , how shall I put it, somewhat shaky reputation. Namely, he has long been debunked for lack of intellectual integrity and strong bias. However, he is best known for his unshakable and raving anti-Serbian sentiments. It wouldn't hurt to broaden one's horizons by looking into some alternative sources.
Suvorov
October 28th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
jaimojpas,
I think you may have misinterpreted my comment. By "this place" I meant antiwar.com, not Hoare's blog. Please tell me if I am wrong.
Andy
October 29th, 2009 at 8:24 am
Mr Malic is an asset to Antiwar.com.
jaimojpas
October 29th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Sorry for my rash reaction: it comes from the habit of being constantly on the alert for the "truthful" information by the "researchers" such as Hoare, his Mamman and their ilk.
conumishu
October 29th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
ITCY is simply an ad hoc court, alledgedly sanctioned by UN but in fact functioning unlawfuly, in disregard of UN chart. All detainees "brought" before this monkey-court are in fact kidnapped persons. Any governments endorsing and participating into this mockery should be held responsibile. But we live in the "new world" and ITCY enormity is exactly the kind of justice one should expect under this "new order".
(A note in tune with the Bizarro world it engulfs us: now we might have Tony Blair as "president", for sure we, "europeans", get what we deserve for watching too much tv.)
Suvorov
October 29th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
No problem. Yes, you can take an ustasha out of Croatia, but you cannot take Croatia out of an ustasha.
conumishu
October 30th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Straight to the point, congrats!
Indeed, "trivialities" like ownership and the means to ensure a decent present or like the questions who controls these means or who should draft the strategy for the future are no concern of "natives", minor "savages" unable to understand the modern society because of their history and petty traditions (such a drag!). Strangely enough (but not in the Bizzaro world) the same "savages" are always thirsty for "civil societies" and "freedom of choice" and "independent media".
Hail the "peace maker" Holbrooke, hail his infinite wisdom and unwavering determination, hail the unselfish sacrifice for the natives' well being and their undoubtedly happy future! People of Afghanistan and Pakistan who are now under his loving guidance: Rejoyce!
David Dark
November 8th, 2009 at 4:55 am
It's curious that Mr. Malic has never updated his bio. He claims to be a historian, but doesn't back that up. Degrees, institutional affiliation? Let's us all be historians, but not of Mr. Malic's sort.
David
mdrac
November 13th, 2009 at 5:27 am
Malic has degrees from Oxford and Harvard. PHD. He knows what he's talking about. And he speaks their Bosnian language. More than you all.