Something curious is taking place. The nomination of Chuck Hagel as Secretary of Defense came under fire from the friends of Israel even before it was certain that President Barack Obama would name him to the post. Hagel demonstrably has no particular animus towards Israel but he, while senator, refused to kowtow to the Israel Lobby, failing to sign on to letters and position statements, saying that he was first and foremost a United States Senator, not a representative of a foreign power. He also favors negotiations with Iran to end the nuclear standoff, which critics immediately latched onto as a sign of weakness and a further indication that he did not have Israel’s back. Bill Kristol, head of the Emergency Committee for Israel, quickly piled on to the Hagel nomination, followed by the Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin and Charles Krauthammer, convicted Iran contra felon Elliot Abrams, reliably liberal Rachel Maddow, Harvard’s own Israel firster Alan Dershowitz, Mitt Romney adviser Dan Senor, and Johns Hopkins’ Professor Eliot Cohen. Several critics, including the American Enterprise Institute’s Danielle Pletka, accused Hagel of being anti-Semitic and Islamophobe Pamela Geller described him as a "Jew hater." Transplanted American now-living-in-Israel Caroline Glick somewhat more confusingly wrote that he "hates Jews that think that Jews have rights." Major Jewish organizations including the Anti-Defamation League and The American Jewish Committee, quickly followed suit, with ADL’s Abe Foxman saying "the sentiments he’s [Hagel’s] expressed about the Jewish lobby border on anti-Semitism in the genre of professors John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt and former president Jimmy Carter" while the AJC’s David Harris added "We’re not in the opposition camp, we’re in the concerned camp. We’re going to count on the Senate to examine, as it must, key issues of concern."
At that point a number of prominent American Jews who normally avoid any open criticism of the Israel Lobby became concerned and began to push back, noting that there was nothing to be alarmed about in Hagel’s record and that the perception that Jews as a group were blocking a qualified presidential appointment might create an unwelcome backlash. The counter-critics included prominent spokesmen like Thomas Friedman, Richard Haas, Joe Klein, Richard Cohen, Nick Kristof, David Ignatius, Aaron David Miller, and Peter Beinart and their view would appear to reflect the majority opinion of American Jews, though characteristically not the views of the leading Jewish organizations which are closely aligned with Israel’s right wing government and to major donors like Sheldon Adelson. To provide some space for the counterattack and to steer it away from being a Jewish issue, some Hagel supporters began to note that much of the opposition to the appointment was also coming from other sources, including disgruntled Republicans out to "get" Obama and defense contractors fearing budget cuts. Christian Zionists, whose unflinching support for both Israel and military spending is linked to their desire to hasten the end of the world and bring about the battle of Armageddon preceding the second coming of Christ, are also on the list.
While applauding the efforts of many Americans to pull out the stops in support the Hagel nomination, I would nevertheless argue that the attempt to identify some kind of rainbow coalition in the opposition to Hagel is pretty much a canard. It really is all about Israel, at least in the minds of most of those who seriously are seeking to block the nomination. Consider for a second whether Hagel would be facing any serious opposition at all if it were not for the claim that he is anti-Israel and not predisposed to use force against Iran. And bear in mind that Iran is really a subset of the Israel issue since it is Benjamin Netanyahu who is driving the belligerency even though the Iranians do not actually threaten the United States in any serious way. Consider also who is providing the muscle and the money to attack Hagel. It is organizations like Bill Kristol’s the Emergency Committee for Israel that was able to place a full page ad in the New York Times on Tuesday denouncing Hagel as the "anti-Israel nominee for Secretary of Defense." The ad was signed by former New York City Mayor Ed Koch as well as two currently serving Democratic Congressmen, Shelley Berkley of Nevada and Eliot Engel of New York.
Christian Zionists might not like the Hagel nomination but they are not to my knowledge placing similar full page ads in leading newspapers, nor are they appearing on television talk shows, to which they have little or no access. Nor do they have the political pull to command the presence of hundreds of congressmen at their annual conference, as the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) is able to do. Defense contractors likewise are not attacking Hagel because they know that it will be a collective White House decision where and when to cut spending and Hagel will merely be the implementer of the policy. They also understand that while budget cuts are coming no matter who is Secretary of Defense because the government is running out of money they will continue to benefit from large military appropriations, even if the spending will not be growing dramatically as it has for the past eleven years.
No, the heart of the opposition to Hagel is in the hands of the ad hoc groups pulled together by Bill Kristol and others, to include fellow travelers in congress like Senator Mark Kirk, who explains why he will oppose Hagel while trying to appear high minded: "I am concerned about his past record and statements, particularly with regard to Iran and the U.S.-Israel relationship." Kirk’s staff assistant Richard Goldberg has meanwhile been running an email campaign against Hagel consisting of multiple messages sent daily to fellow congressmen and friends in the media while Senator Lindsey Graham, who has already described Hagel as "very antagonistic toward the state of Israel," leads the charge openly from the friends-of-Israel right where he is joined by a "deeply troubled" Senator Kelly Ayotte who wants to see a "fearful" Iran. It is Kristol and company as well as the politicians they have in their pockets who have the ability to appear on television to tell the American people why they should reject Chuck Hagel. They are the ones with the money, the organization, and the media savvy to lead the fight against someone whose fealty to Israel is not sufficiently established, not Pastor John Hagee and his mewling evangelical flock in Texas. For Kristol and his associates it is indeed all about Israel and it always has been. Every nominee to a senior defense, intelligence, or security council position must be vetted and judged by whether or not they are completely committed to support the Israeli government, no matter what it does and no matter what the impact would be on American interests. That is what Bill Kristol and his friends are all about.
And for those who still doubt that it is all about Israel, I would suggest a little history lesson. In 2004 Philip Zelikow, executive director of the 9/11 Commission, admitted that the Iraq war was fought to protect Israel, which he described as "the threat that dare not speak its name." He meant that if there had not been the connivance of the Pentagon’s friends of Israel in creating a false weapons of mass destruction narrative coupled with the fulsome support of the Lobby a war on behalf of Israel would never have been endorsed by the American people. And it is also useful to review what happened to the last brave soul who dared to put American interests ahead of those of Israel. That was Chas Freeman who was proposed as Chairman of the National Intelligence Council during President Obama’s first term in 2009. Freeman had an exemplary record as a public servant and was known to be an independent thinker willing to reconsider and challenge orthodox policies. Freeman had served as Ambassador to China and Saudi Arabia and was regarded as something of an Arabist, which immediately made him suspect to the usual crowd in congress and the media. For that he was immediately attacked by Israel’s friends, in what was described as a "thunderous, coordinated assault." The critics frequently pretended that they were actually opposing Freeman’s views on China and his close personal ties to the Saudis, just as Hagel is now being falsely pilloried because he lacks management experience and because his wartime service in Vietnam will color his judgments. But no one was really fooled regarding Chas Freeman – it was all about Israel. Freeman, realizing that the debate over his views would become a distraction, asked that his name be withdrawn.
What it comes down to is that we live in a country where nearly everyone is willing to sell out if the price is right and, for the moment, Israel’s friends hold many of the cards. Being openly and enthusiastically a friend of Israel is a sine qua non on the path to power in Washington. In fact, Chuck Hagel recognizes that reality. He has recently apologized for his "errors" on Israel and Iran in an attempt to defuse the opposition to him. And only last week Senator Rand Paul, who some of us had hoped might break with the foreign policy consensus, visited Israel to burnish his presidential credentials. While there he did everything that he was expected to do and more, saying that Israel’s settlement policies are "none of our business" before adroitly backing away from cutting aid to Tel Aviv by noting that a bankrupt America would not be a good ally. "This does mean that we have to reassess who to give aid to, and when we do reassess that, I would begin with countries that are burning our flag and chanting ‘Death to America.’ No one is accusing Israel of that." So if Rand has his way a gaggle of Muslim countries will get the boot while aid to "good ally" Israel will be untouchable.
Far better that Senators Paul, Lindsay Graham and Ron Kirk should stop worrying about what is good for Israel. They might instead emulate the Chuck Hagel who once upon a time was willing to declare that he was actually an elected official representing the United States and its people. Congress is the heart of the problem, funding and providing political cover for Israel’s completely illegal settlement policies as well as the iron fist apartheid-like control of the West Bank and Gaza. As a consequence, the U.S. is widely and rightly blamed for underwriting what Benjamin Netanyahu does and is no longer respected or considered credible, but I guess for all politicians who want to become president real bad it’s considered worth it. Well, I won’t be voting for any of them. The Israel Lobby wields enormous power in Washington, but many Americans are becoming tired of having their affairs micro-managed in Tel Aviv. Blowback is beginning and I would hate to see a bunch of esteemed Senators finding themselves on the wrong side of history. That would be a real shame.
Read more by Philip Giraldi
- Boston Becomes Toxic – May 15th, 2013
- Gatekeeping for Zion – May 9th, 2013
- Kristol Clear – May 1st, 2013
- What Has Bibi Been Doing? – April 24th, 2013
- Drones and Death Lists: The New Face of Warfare – April 17th, 2013





Johnny in Wi.
January 16th, 2013 at 11:17 pm
Shumer has given Hagel his royal blessing. The fix is in. Hagel is there to keep the military in line, not challenge Israel. I have stated before if Hagel passed confirmation, he would be totally neutered about Israel. I stand by that prediction.
baz
January 16th, 2013 at 11:42 pm
Israels clandestine agents operating in the US, posing as american citizens will end up destroying this country. These people should be held accountable for the damage (political, industrial, and physical) that they have done to this country and either deported to israel or tried for espionage/treason.
mark g.
January 16th, 2013 at 11:47 pm
Thank you for the trenchant analysis, Philip; even though the situation remains grim.
Not only do the 'friends of Israel' still have a lock on Washington, but the dominant media as well. America's political world is theirs.
Fortunately, the internet remains free of their control. That is the one bright light. And articles like yours are making a difference. Please stay the course.
Yonatan
January 17th, 2013 at 2:29 am
The US is already at war with Iran. The latest round of sanctions is aimed at destroying Iranian society, as happened with the sanctions against Iraq. Even medical aid is affected.
the lion
January 17th, 2013 at 3:30 am
What will happen if Hagel doesnt get in will be proof positive that there is an Israeli Lobby and that it is all poweful. That will give Obama the ammunition to cut the Israeli lobby at the knees and name Aipac and associated organisations foreign lobby groups who will have to register as such!
Damned if they dont and damned if they do!
james
January 17th, 2013 at 4:05 am
Good luck with that. The American people are fast asleep after watching every reality TV show. Nothing will change without a truly devastating event which I personally do not wish to anybody.
james
January 17th, 2013 at 4:09 am
You are 100% correct in your assessment as usual Phil, Hagel is already apologizing for nothing wrong he did. This in itself is very disheartening. The modus operandi of the usual suspects is working like a charm, if they could not dislodge his nomination, they will make sure he is neutered to the point he will be non-effective to make any change. Case closed until the american people wake up or at least some american patriots do something.
lejardin
January 17th, 2013 at 6:14 am
Mongrel.
lejardin
January 17th, 2013 at 6:20 am
James, you're a twit. Was James Baker "neutered"? Who have we — the "Israel lobby" — ever "neutered"? I WISH we could neuter certain people. Yourself, for example. And yes, saying the "Jewish lobby," calling us out with a broad-based ethnic smear, was indeed something "wrong he did". If you're going to be "disheartened" about anything, Einstein, you ought to start feeling pretty bad about his encouragement to Iran, and how they're supporting his nomination. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. This is the Neville Chamberlain approach all over again, and if you think that Iran is Israel's problem alone, and not America's as well, you have walnuts for brains.
Guest
January 17th, 2013 at 7:46 am
Why do American citizens continue to live with lies? What do they have to gain by babying this corruption called Israel? Will the Israels just march into Washington and totally take over as our disintegration continues? Can anyone tell us what is gained by America by totally surrendering to this little country? Israel would be nonexistent if the United States would ignore this very sick spot in the Middle East and start rebuilding America. If we announced a total surrender to Israel they could do nothing to help us.
JoaoAlfaiate
January 17th, 2013 at 7:49 am
I love your comment about the "Neville Chamberlain approach." Perhaps you haven't noticed, but Iran is a developing country and a fourth rate military power, rather difficult for most folks to confuse with Nazi Germany. But for an apologist for the zionist enterprise, anything is possible, even reasonable.
If Iran is America's problem too it is only because israel's well placed friends in government, the media, etc. are keen to get the US into yet another war in the Middle East for israel's benefit.
eastsideboy
January 17th, 2013 at 7:52 am
I've always suspected that Rachel Maddow is a toady for the the Israel Lobby and her tirade against Hagel demonstrates exactly Giraldi's point!
And legardin, you are a pathetic fool — part of the problem — definitely not part of the solution.
blutopie
January 17th, 2013 at 8:40 am
Ex-King Netanyahu is simply priceless – he came out yesterday and essentially told Obama that 'Israelis still run both Israel AND America'
This despite the fact that Obama, in the last 3 months, has deposed Netanyahu BOTH as 'King of America' as well as 'King of Israel'.
1- Obama just installed Hagel as Sec of Def.
2- Hagel is the end of 'a war on Iran' and therefore the end of Bibi's cover for his Apartheid Kingdom
3- Bibi’s minions at AIPAC couldn’t stop Hagel without so disastrously exposing themselves as to make themselves personae non gratae in the US.
4- Thus Obama effectively negated King Bibi's control over the US, which he exercises thru the Israeli Lobby
Brilliant…
Obama has deftly negated Netanyahu's use of the Israeli Lobby to control the US political apparatus and foreign policy (ousted Bibi as 'King of America') and has completely negated the decades long transcendent strategic aim of all Israeli/and neocon strategies – to hoax the US into a war with Iran to cover up and continue Israeli Apartheid (ousted Bibi as 'King of Israel')
"A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse!", cries King Bibi, as Obama rides away
The 'Emperor of America and Israel' is no more
The best part is Bibi doesn’t even know it yet – he just keeps making mistake after mistake now – everything he does is a mistake now.
The only king he is now is the King Midas of Mistakes – a cartoon figure
Andy_osnard
January 17th, 2013 at 9:07 am
An informative article Phil. Will your next article be about Mali? It's all about Israel as well!
Andy_osnard
January 17th, 2013 at 9:12 am
Don;t celebrate too early there Blue. Israel still controls most of the media and the majority of the American public could care less.
Andy_osnard
January 17th, 2013 at 9:17 am
The Israelis have created more than the corruption called Israel. Along with their Fellow Travelers here in the US, they have subverted many aspects of our daily life with their control of the media and totally infiltrated and corrupted our government as well. It took a lot of time and patience, but they planned well and started many years ago. They learned well from their failed push for communism in the early Twentieth Century. Their character, behaviour and ultimate goal has not changed, just their tactics.
Bob D
January 17th, 2013 at 9:20 am
But Joao, you are not understanding lejardin's mentality. He doesn't see himself as being anything but a Likud Israelis patriot. Hardly an apologist! To him, in his little mickey-mouse view, Iran IS Nazi Germany. They do mildly threaten Israel. And Israel wins most of its wars and avoids casualties by preemptive strikes. Like we were persuaded to do in Iraq. Screw the interests of the US, we aren't his people, only marks for exploitation. Israel must not only survive but prosper (as, by the way, it is doing and at our expense).
Bob D
January 17th, 2013 at 9:29 am
I have to admit, as a conservative and an Obama hater, the guy is showing guts I never thought he had. Was I wrong about him? If he has the backbone to cut the rate of increase in defense spending with the sequestor and not put it back I will be even more confused.
Andy_osnard
January 17th, 2013 at 9:32 am
Are you talking about the secret reports of Iran's amphibious camels on whose backs they will ride when they invade us? Or is it their Hypersonic and FTL Stealth Gliders they plan to use to drop hundreds of mega ton nukes on our shores?
@charleycaruso
January 17th, 2013 at 10:30 am
If Obomber picked Hagel I'm sure Hagel will play ball with the Droner-in-Chief.
And if we want to keep spending down, why don't we cut off all aid to countries that bomb our ships?
Let's see, who should we start with? Hmmm.
Jaime
January 17th, 2013 at 11:29 am
Right on. Remember the USS Liberty?
baz
January 17th, 2013 at 11:57 am
lejardin,
it idid not take long for someone like you to appear. Of course it is the strategy of Israel to label all those who call out its own racist agenda and its sinister operations in the US as "anti-semitic"
It is ironic that in this day and age, the racist calls someone who is obviously not, a racist….
but the american people are starting to wake up to this scam, and others hatched by your israeli colleagues in the anti-defamation league and dozens of other mossad organizations meant to cripple public criticism of Israels racist apartheid agenda
Giraldi has been writing for several years and has not once made any racial reference in all that time.
Personally, i dont believe the nonsense that there is a jewish "race". That belief in itself is just rascist. I dont even care where jews chose to live be it in the US, palestine or wherever. We share this planet amongst us all.
What I, and others object to is the zionists racist agenda to kill all the palestinians and steal their land; an agenda that includes manipulating and sabotaging this countries political process in a very sinister and evil fashion. This is criminal, immoral and certainly not worthy of anyone professing to follow the beautiful jewish faith.
Sami
January 17th, 2013 at 12:02 pm
{It really is all about Israel, at least in the minds of most of those who seriously are seeking to block the nomination.}
To blame Israel for US savage foreign policy is not going to help you. America is born on violence. Millions of indigenous population was killed. US are doing the same now, this time with Muslims’ for world hegemony, where will be defeated. The ‘progressives support Hagel who voted for Iraq war and agrees with Obama that “all options are on the table" for Iran. How many millions more do you want to kill so you can be honest with yourself? Meanwhile, Obama who supports secret wars, targeted assassination, economic sanction, is trying to bring down Iranian government just for the fun of it!! Sending CIA agents to Iran to identify the skilled workers so they can either kill them or steal them. This policy is in place since Regan. People are not dumb to believe that ‘Israel’ is responsible for US and Obama's BLACK AND SAVAGE policies against other nations. The following link shows how CIA function in Iran against defenseless people to achieve their vicious goal. Obama is a war criminal. http://www.mehrnews.com/en/newsdetail.aspx?NewsID…
patriothere
January 17th, 2013 at 12:58 pm
Phil. you always light a fire under my belly.
patriothere
January 17th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
Hagel represents the Obama Adminstrations narrative. America first. There will be no war with iran, and hagel confirms that.
rosemerry
January 17th, 2013 at 1:43 pm
You are right, and it is every aspect of Iranian life that is affected. Iran holds ABSOLUTELY NO danger for the USA, or even for Israel, and has recently reiterated its longterm policy of NOT wanting, having or using nukes, and wanting a nuke-free zone in its region. With belligerent, lawless Israel controlling 100% of "US Senators" (check AIPAC motions in recent months) and pretending Iran is some sort of existential threat to it makes the whole pretence of a democratic USA visible to us all.
Robert Emmet
January 17th, 2013 at 1:45 pm
Mr. Giraldi, once again a great article. Sadly, we will not find such a truthful commentary and analysis in the MSM.
patriothere
January 17th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
What do you expect from a wacky, ancient, tribal, desert religion where people were war like, tribe like, hallucinating from dehydration, and hallucinogens etc. judaism christianity and islam are bad. We don't live in the desert anymore. Evolution is a fact. Adapt or die.
Anybody that says there is anything good or genuine or god like about these desert religions is lying!
rosemerry
January 17th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
You are getting hot under the collar, knowing your comments are getting wilder every minute.
"you think that Iran is Israel's problem alone, and not America's as well, you have walnuts for brains. "
What possible threat has Iran offered against the USA OR EVEN ISRAEL? Iran only affirms it will retaliate if attacked ie self defence.
"the filthy Left, including yourself, Phil." this means you are on the rightwing, and that is good???
Use a more suitable pseudonym-perhaps lapoubelle.
AmericaFirstNow
January 17th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
The Neocons vs. Chuck Hagel
http://tinyurl.com/neoconsvshagel
Mike
January 17th, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Bingo Yonatan. Economics sanctions are an ACT OF WAR. It's sickening.
Mike
January 17th, 2013 at 6:00 pm
"…. and just admit that you don't particularly like Jews?"
Yeah, yeah. We know you moron. Anyone who disagrees with anything Israel does is an anti-Semite.
Folks…this idiot's post is obvious desperation and simple mindedness. But what do you expect of a crazed nationalist eh?
And please. Spare us the the Neville Chamberlain crap. Iran is NO WHERE close to being the military powerhouse Nazi Germany was.
Mike
January 17th, 2013 at 6:13 pm
Throwing out the race card is just a way of someone saying they can't argue your position. It's old, tired, childish, and stupid.
Richard DW
January 17th, 2013 at 7:26 pm
The late George Ball, JFK's Undersecretary of State, stated he feared that if the American public ever realized the extent to which it had been manipulated by the Israel Lobby, an American Holocaust could result. This was one of his motivations for authoring "The Passionate Attachment," the precursor to Walt and Mearsheimer's fabulous book.
Jim
January 18th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
President Obama,
Applauding your humane reaction to the recent school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, we wonder if you would also shed a tear for the plight of the Iranian people caught between the devil and the deep blue sea, as a result of the sanctions imposed on them by the international community. http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2013/iran190113.h…
Tim
January 20th, 2013 at 1:32 am
We all remember when Ariel Sharon announced to the world that he intended to station Mossad assassination teams inside all major nations, including those who were considered to be 'friendly' to Israel?
I remember watching a video clip on the web of a White House press conference during the Bush Administration years, which was about a week after Sharon's announcement had been reported all over the web – and one of the news reporters at the press conference asked the press secretary about the Sharon announcement. The press secretary pretended as though he hadn't heard anything about it, but promised that he would look into it.
The subject was dropped and I never saw anything more about it. More recently, this piece of news is making its rounds: "US Congressmen Brad Sherman (D-CA) has introduced legislation that would no longer require Israelis to obtain visas to visit the United States for tourism or business purposes."
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/…
I'm not sure whether this legislation ever got passed, but when I saw it – I immediately remembered the Sharon promise to put his Mossad killer teams inside all nations, and his explanation that these hit men would be used to take out anyone who Israel considered to be a threat to their 'national security'.
I have a very strong hunch that these Mossad hit men are probably assigned to keep a sharp eye on all members of Congress and also any government officials who, like Hagel, might get any ideas about putting American interests ahead of the interests of Israel.
The thing that amazes me, though, is why anyone in Congress would vote in favor of making it easier for these Israeli monsters to enter the USA and be less trackable, due to no visa requirements. Unless, of course, Brad Sherman is a dual citizen and is simply aiding a foreign nation by opening the door for them, so it will be easier for them to insert their hit teams?
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abe
January 21st, 2013 at 9:18 am
Neocons are like dog crap on my shoes
Mike
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:32 am
Oh and don't forget that it is the US and Israel NOT Iran that acting like belligerents here. Are you really THAT stupid?
Mike
January 22nd, 2013 at 11:34 am
Yup. And still smells even when you try to scrap it off. Time for a full wash. Neocon maggots.
Mick
January 22nd, 2013 at 6:50 pm
I love this site however it is just becoming an Anti Semetic sounding board. I am a Pacifist, a Quaker and I agree with almost all of Phil's articles. However if I want to read the kind of paranoid David Duke/ National Socialst I can go to Stormfront. In fact, I am sure you are a shill for some far right crack pot organization. I had someone very close to me who became a real Anti Semite. Not someone like Phil who researches things and then writes a well thought out article. I did a huge amount of research ( 6 months, 40 books, endless diatribes on Anti Semitism) Sorry, Andy,Richard and a few other obsessed Jew haters here, but I found modern Anti Semitism to be similar to the Salem Witch trials etc.If any of you Fascists would like an online debate here bring it on. I am not talking about critisim of Israel or Neocons, or Israel's war mongering. I am talking about good old fashion European Jewish conspiracy rants. However have facts you can back up other will being crying home to mama!
Mick
January 22nd, 2013 at 7:52 pm
I am so sick of people comparing Iran to Nazi Germany! Germany was the strongest power the world had ever seen. It took the British, USA and the Soviet Union sacrifice 12' million soldiers. That was the key to destroying Nazi Germany. It was a freak of history that there was a regime like Stalin's. That was willing to sacrifice 25 million people. They also moved whole factories beyond The Urals and out of reach of the Germans. Also there was the USA that proved to be an industrial power house which Hitler consistently under rated.mthough it was 90% "Aryan". Also the we had thevBritish empire controlled the shipping lanes in much of the world.
Iran could not even beat the Iraquis in 8 years. It took us about a week.though we did have to deal with unrest afterward. Iran is a peaceful country!
stevieb
February 9th, 2013 at 9:22 am
Treason. Triators must hang….